Brand J Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 Kelsay was granted an extension, because he is a great locker room influence. He's the consummate professional, who always gives 100% effort in practice, as well as the games. Okay, let me stop BS'ing.. This move is confusing, irritating, and frustrating. Chris Kelsay at his position is the equivalent to what Trent Edwards was at his. He is arguably the slowest LB on the entire squad! Which is saying A LOT, considering all of the LBs run as if they have cleats made of lead. Getting a faster front 7 is the top priority in turning the defensive performance around. A backwards move was made today. The only news that would've been worse, would've been the following: "after only two games this year, Trent Edwards has agreed to a contract extension, believed to be in the neighborhood of 6 years and $72M with $43M guaranteed."
JohninMinn. Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 You cant really put a price tag on a "High Motor".
26TrapDraw Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 (edited) I have defended the FO so far but this move baffles me. OHH MY GOD. and its s%^t like this that make me just put my head down in shame. Donte whitner asked why other teams were laughing at us.....Really?....just gets worse by the day that extension is the epitome of why we will never be competetive in this league Edited September 29, 2010 by LVBillsBackr
RayFinkle Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 Don't give your all pro LT 10 million per, but give Kelsey 6 million per? Didn't the top FA linebacker (Dansby) sign for about 8 per year this past off season and that was considered way overpaying for his talent. Who would have paid Kelsey anything close to that in he off season? Unreal.
jscap Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 I think i'm in the minority, wait I know i'm in the minority when I say that this extention really left me with no reaction at all. The value of the contract means squat since they could cut him next year if a more servicable LB is signed or drafted. He could very well be a backup next season (if there is one) making $6M a year, there is no salary cap as it stands and I can't see one returning anytime soon. People act like the 24 mil is coming out of their own pocket. CONTRACTS ARE NOT GURANTEED IN THE NFL!! The Bills will not end up paying him more than 12 mil and if they do....then he will have become a solid OLB and warrants not being cut.
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 There was a post the other day that claimed the only important thing in an NFL franchise was the QB. This move sort of points out why that hypothesis is just plain wrong.
birdog1960 Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 a little off topic but still relevant....my final nickname for wang, levitre and wood-----Ralph's Nuts
BADOLBILZ Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-3/Kelsay-signs-extension/58e36ec8-e282-44e4-b9aa-aac4db2f1c8c Seriously, how does ANYONE defend this organization? I mean, ANYONE? I know there are some real homers on this Board, but even you two (you know who you are) have to be coming around by now, no? This may be the least poplular personnel move in Buffalo Bills history.
1B4IDie Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 I have defended the FO so far but this move baffles me. # Another One Name another team in the NFL that would have given him a contract anywhere near the size that he just signed. Unfreaking believable. Seriously? Would anyone claim on waivers at his current salary? Its doubtful. Not saying that he wouldn't be on a roster, but I bet Joe_the_Six_Pack $10 Trent would be claimed through waivers, I wouldn't be so confident with Kelsay. I specifically watched him on Sunday because of the contract talk. He looked like complete garbage in that last game. Both of those rookie Tight Ends made him look a undrafted rookie out there. I can't believe he gets rewarded with a contract extension after probably the worst game of his career.
LGB Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 There is no question that this move seems to reinforce the idea that the Bills are committed to mediocrity and do not give a rat's a$$ about winning or about the fans in WNY. In essence, the fans were just told that they do not matter, common sense does not matter and if you dog us, not only are we not going to sign autographs, but we are going to give one of the most disliked players $6 million dollars a year of your money that you have given to support the team.
PDaDdy Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) Chris Kelsay? $6 Million a year? Seriously? This is Buffalo's problem in a nut shell. We overpay for mediocre talent. What is the going rate for your average run of the mill DE turned outside LB? I doubt anyone outside of Buffalo has actually ever heard of him. I could be completely out of touch with salaries but that sounds like a lot of cash for a national no name. This WREAKS of Ralph Wilson! He won't pay probowlers and great talent market value for their services but he overpays for average at best players like Kelsay? What a joke! News flash Ralph, super bowl and play off teams have elite high paid talent and a bunch of moderately paid average roll players. I don't recall seeing a successful team model based on overpaid, average role players devoid of elite talent!!!! Edited September 30, 2010 by PDaDdy
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 Chris Kelsay? $6 Million a year? Seriously? This is Buffalo's problem in a nut shell. We overpay for mediocre talent. What is the going rate for your average run of the mill DE turned outside LB? I doubt anyone outside of Buffalo has actually ever heard of him. I could be completely out of touch with salaries but that sounds like a lot of cash for a national no name. This WREAKS of Ralph Wilson! He won't pay probowlers and great talent market value for their services but he overpays for average at best players like Kelsay? What a joke! News flash Ralph, super bowl and play off teams have elite high paid talent and a bunch of moderately paid average roll players. I don't recall seeing a successful team model based on overpaid, average role players devoid of elite talent!!!! It puts him at or above all the household names at the LB position. 'Nuff said. For a guy that has issues breaking down and tackling someone in space.
Coach Tuesday Posted September 30, 2010 Author Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) Wait a moment, not one person has sarcastically replied, "DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!" Does this mean that we really are doomed this time.....? Edited September 30, 2010 by Coach Tuesday
stony Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 It puts him at or above all the household names at the LB position. 'Nuff said. For a guy that has issues breaking down and tackling someone in space. I have a lot of friends from college that are Giants fans and we both seem to know a bit about each others teams. Never, ever, have I ever remembered a moment where they have remembered a player standing out from the rest in the past 10 yrs.
Brand J Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 After thinking about this, the only way I can rationalize the extension (and it makes very little sense, I know) is that they gave Chris Kelsay all of that $$$ as a F*** YOU to Aaron Schobel, who left the Bills and tried to milk more money out of the Texans. Schobel was by far the better player and knew he was the better player, so I can see him envying Kelsay's new contract. Of course, you don't run a business by making personnel moves in the interest of shoving those moves in former player's faces, so I really have no idea why this slow, non-instinctual, horrible DE/OLB, was re-signed.
Rico Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-3/Kelsay-signs-extension/58e36ec8-e282-44e4-b9aa-aac4db2f1c8c Seriously, how does ANYONE defend this organization? I mean, ANYONE? I know there are some real homers on this Board, but even you two (you know who you are) have to be coming around by now, no? Ralph Buddy Nix anyone else involved in this move and any dipsh** stupid enough to defend it. New ownership cannot come soon enough, KEEP HOPE ALIVE!
Thoner7 Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 This confirms that Nix either sucks horribly, Ralph still has complete control, or both. I vote both Kelsay is the opidomy of the Bills is is exaclty why we suck. He ahs started for 8 years and should have been replaced 7 years ago. This guy blows and has never once resembled an NFL starter, even as a LDE. Now he is even worse. He hasnt even PRESSURED the QB once this season. He hasnt covered anyone in coverage. He is routinely out of position, never holds his contain, and is blocked too easily. I cannot think of one thing he is even average at. Not one. If not for Cornell Green he would be the worst starter on this team, and even still thats debateable. FML
Pirate Angel Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 Was he in a contract year??? The only logical reason that I can think of is that by extending his contract they may have reduced the amount of guarenteed money that would be owed to him after realeasing him later......?????? I know this explanationis head scratching but this is a big WTF!!!!??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Was he in a contract year??? The only logical reason that I can think of is that by extending his contract they may have reduced the amount of guarenteed money that would be owed to him after realeasing him later......?????? I know this explanationis head scratching but this is a big WTF!!!!??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? No scratch that....It has dawned on me......Buddy Nix is aiming to quadrouple beer sales at the Ralph...????WTF!!!
Rico Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 Wait a moment, not one person has sarcastically replied, "DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!" Does this mean that we really are doomed this time.....? No, we are not doomed... ya gotta BILLieve new ownership is just around the corner!
dayman Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 These are the guys making between 5 and 6.5M total salary in 2009 at LB...there are 9 LBs that make above 6.5 last year total salary. Just figured I'd post. Not entirely sure what Kelsays deal is ect...wonder where he'll be on this list next year the way it shakes down. A lot of moving pieces so this list isn't meant to mean anything necessarily...hoping you guys can help me make sense of it actually. At a glance though, it does seem he's vastly over paid. http://content.usatoday.com/sports/f...er=Salary+desc Player / Team / Base Salary / Sign /Bonus / Other Bonus / Total Salary / Cap Value Crowder, Channing Dolphins $ 1,500,000 $ 3,750,000 $ 1,266,000 $ 6,516,000 $ 4,016,000 Peterson, Julian Lions $ 6,500,000 $ 0 $ 4,810 $ 6,504,810 $ 6,504,810 Bulluck, Keith Titans $ 5,500,000 $ 0 $ 1,003,120 $ 6,503,120 $ 9,111,790 Urlacher, Brian Bears $ 5,625,000 $ 0 $ 500,000 $ 6,125,000 $ 10,185,511 Briggs, Lance Bears $ 1,100,000 $ 0 $ 5,000,000 $ 6,100,000 $ 6,766,666 Haralson, Parys 49ers $ 880,000 $ 0 $ 4,857,280 $ 5,737,280 $ 5,781,280 Beason, Jon Panthers $ 1,100,000 $ 2,052,500 $ 2,058,220 $ 5,210,720 $ 2,389,886 Hill, Leroy Seahawks $ 5,000,000 $ 0 $ 3,120 $ 5,003,120 $ 5,003,120
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