Mike in Syracuse Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 There is a new three headed monster at OBD. I'm starting to see more and more evidence that Nix, Whaley & Gailey (wow that sounds like a law firm) went to Ralph and said "we can build you a winner but it's going to take time and 2010 isn't going to be pretty". Wilson and Nix both made comments during the offseason that indicated that there would be massive roster evaluations and that it would be a long year. I believe Ralph said something about the fans keeping their hopes realistic and Nix said something about not expecting miracles. I sincerely believe that Nix and Whaley know what they've got and are content with a long term plan to fix it. If 2010 is truly the first year of a massive rebuild/restructure then I'm ok with a crappy season. I'd rather come out of this year knowing that 30 of the guys on the Bills roster are legitimate starters than continue to go through ****ty season after ****ty season. Simon was talking about this earlier and Jeremy suggested that maybe the 2010 season is just one giant preseason? If that's the case, I wouldn't be surprised to see more dramatic changes. Obscure players who didn't see the field like Roscoe get elevated and "names" like Hardy, Edwards and others get shown the door. One thing is certain, it's going to be an interesting year.
Captain Caveman Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 If 2010 is truly the first year of a massive rebuild/restructure then I'm ok with a crappy season. I'd rather come out of this year knowing that 30 of the guys on the Bills roster are legitimate starters than continue to go through ****ty season after ****ty season. Simon was talking about this earlier and Jeremy suggested that maybe the 2010 season is just one giant preseason? I like the thought, but your math is a little off. 30 legitimate starters = super bowl. Remember, there are only 24 starting positions (including kicker and punter.)
LABills08 Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 There is a new three headed monster at OBD. I'm starting to see more and more evidence that Nix, Whaley & Gailey (wow that sounds like a law firm) went to Ralph and said "we can build you a winner but it's going to take time and 2010 isn't going to be pretty". Wilson and Nix both made comments during the offseason that indicated that there would be massive roster evaluations and that it would be a long year. I believe Ralph said something about the fans keeping their hopes realistic and Nix said something about not expecting miracles. I sincerely believe that Nix and Whaley know what they've got and are content with a long term plan to fix it. If 2010 is truly the first year of a massive rebuild/restructure then I'm ok with a crappy season. I'd rather come out of this year knowing that 30 of the guys on the Bills roster are legitimate starters than continue to go through ****ty season after ****ty season. Simon was talking about this earlier and Jeremy suggested that maybe the 2010 season is just one giant preseason? If that's the case, I wouldn't be surprised to see more dramatic changes. Obscure players who didn't see the field like Roscoe get elevated and "names" like Hardy, Edwards and others get shown the door. One thing is certain, it's going to be an interesting year. I hope you're right.
jonramz Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 you gotta tear it down to build it back up 7-9 every year will just keep you mediocre. How much better would we all feel w/ Sam Bradford at QB?
T master Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 you gotta tear it down to build it back up 7-9 every year will just keep you mediocre. How much better would we all feel w/ Sam Bradford at QB? In the grand scheme of things we wouldn't feel any better Bills nation would find something about him to complain about !!!!!!
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 "I truly believe we are not that far away."
bobblehead Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 "I truly believe we are not that far away." Maybe he's right.
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Maybe he's right. Which would mean the thesis of this thread is incorrect.
bobblehead Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Which would mean the thesis of this thread is incorrect. Only if you need it to be.
Max Fischer Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 If there is an actual plan, I'm OK with a crappy season.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) I think the OP is right in a lot of regards. Save the 30 starters things. If you could find 8 starters on both sides of the ball right now, i would be happy. I also like how they did the Trent situation. He looked good in preseason and practice, but when the lights went on, he just did not have it. Now we as bills fans say, we already knew that. But Chan and Nix wanted to give him a chance. Once they saw all they needed to see, they cut him. Made a clear decision. Not letting him stick around and maybe play a game here or there. As it stands Nix, Whaley, and Chan know they need a QB. They Know they need some Tackle help. Nix pretty clearly stated this in his presser after the Miami game. On D The Bills have to find some LB help. Troup could be the NT of the future, but like most rookie DL he is haveing to learn and build strength. The DE are not solid. The secondary is the most solid unit. If what you said is true, and i think the actions of management are showing it to be. Then yes this year wont be pretty. But if it is the first REAL step into getting back to being a relevant team, i am for it. This next offseason is the critical one. Edited September 28, 2010 by atlbillsfan1975
Coach Tuesday Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Who scouted and recommended Cornell Green? Did that happen before Whaley got here?
bobblehead Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Funny, when Nix was hired, Florio put out a scathing column bitching about how the Bills went with the good-ole boy and not with one of young up-and-comers, then he named names, and Whaley was one of them. A few weeks later, Nix hired Whaley. Florio is so money- haha!
mattsox Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 I wish Whaley was the GM. I think he'd do a much better job than what's currently going on here. How much of a say/influence do you think he really has here??? I think he knows how to build a team. Give him the Keys and let him do the job.
purple haze Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Which would mean the thesis of this thread is incorrect. Not true. All depends on one's definition of how long "not far away" is.
TheLynchTrain Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 I wish Whaley was the GM. I think he'd do a much better job than what's currently going on here. How much of a say/influence do you think he really has here??? I think he knows how to build a team. Give him the Keys and let him do the job. Probably a good amount. He is the Assistant General Manager after all.
LabattBlue Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Any faith I have in the new FO & HC will go out the window if Kelsay is signed to the rumored 24 mil extension. The lack of playmakers in the defensive front 7 is mind boggling.
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Only if you need it to be. Not really. It's just how logic works. When there is a contradiction, then either one premise is false or the other one is. Not true. All depends on one's definition of how long "not far away" is. Having listened to Buddy's PC a couple times, I'm pretty sure he wasn't saying "we're not that far away" as some sort of bait and switch sales job and that he really meant "it's going to be years and years". He point blank said he felt that there was talent on the team and implied that it was misused and poorly coached. Now, certainly, he may have changed his mind at this point, and a few people may be changing their minds about him as well...
Wagon Circler Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Any faith I have in the new FO & HC will go out the window if Kelsay is signed to the rumored 24 mil extension. The lack of playmakers in the defensive front 7 is mind boggling. I agree. This does not Jibe with resigning Kelsey. Also, there seems to be a reluctance to play the kids. Moats, Carrington. I assume they're waiting for us to be 2-7 before adding more youth to the starting line-up.
BillsVet Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 There is a new three headed monster at OBD. The more things change, the more they remain the same. The three headed monster running the show is half the inner-circle plus 1: RW, Littman, and Overdorf (Senior VP of Football Operations). Whaley knows that cutting the former starter at this juncture is short-sighted and rash.
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