Another Point of View Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 I really don't want to get you guys started this morning but let me share my opinnion. I have seen all the great quarterbacks suffer with less starts then Fitzpatrick. My guess is he has around 12. The offensive line is still a problem but Fitpatrick handles the rush differently. He will lead a receiver rather then take the sack and this is the main reason for inconsistancy and poor accuracy. At this point I stick with Fitzpatrick until I find an uncorrectable problem. So do we need to draft and gamble on a Rookie QB in the first round? You tell me?
timba Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 I really don't want to get you guys started this morning but let me share my opinnion. I have seen all the great quarterbacks suffer with less starts then Fitzpatrick. My guess is he has around 12. The offensive line is still a problem but Fitpatrick handles the rush differently. He will lead a receiver rather then take the sack and this is the main reason for inconsistancy and poor accuracy. At this point I stick with Fitzpatrick until I find an uncorrectable problem. So do we need to draft and gamble on a Rookie QB in the first round? You tell me? Yes, you draft a rookie QB in the first round if you think he can be your franchise QB. What you saw against New England is what Fitz has always brought to the table: a large pair of ca-hones with a lack of consistency in throwing accuracy. Fitz is a gamer. There is no doubt about that in my mind, but you need to be able to hit open guys in critical situations (in the red zone and in the last 3 minutes when down) to get over the 'almost win' hump.
purple haze Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 I really don't want to get you guys started this morning but let me share my opinnion. I have seen all the great quarterbacks suffer with less starts then Fitzpatrick. My guess is he has around 12. The offensive line is still a problem but Fitpatrick handles the rush differently. He will lead a receiver rather then take the sack and this is the main reason for inconsistancy and poor accuracy. At this point I stick with Fitzpatrick until I find an uncorrectable problem. So do we need to draft and gamble on a Rookie QB in the first round? You tell me? Yes, if they identify a QB they think has franchise potential. Or trade for one if possible. Fitz is a good backup, but he's inaccurate and will turn the ball over as well.
BuffaloBaumer Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 Play Fitz next year for all I care but if they don't figure out how to get a QB on this team by the end of the draft, it's over...
Another Point of View Posted September 27, 2010 Author Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) Yes, you draft a rookie QB in the first round if you think he can be your franchise QB. What you saw against New England is what Fitz has always brought to the table: a large pair of ca-hones with a lack of consistency in throwing accuracy. Fitz is a gamer. There is no doubt about that in my mind, but you need to be able to hit open guys in critical situations (in the red zone and in the last 3 minutes when down) to get over the 'almost win' hump. You need better protect to make the throws. Edited September 27, 2010 by Another Point of View
RyanC883 Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 I really don't want to get you guys started this morning but let me share my opinnion. I have seen all the great quarterbacks suffer with less starts then Fitzpatrick. My guess is he has around 12. The offensive line is still a problem but Fitpatrick handles the rush differently. He will lead a receiver rather then take the sack and this is the main reason for inconsistancy and poor accuracy. At this point I stick with Fitzpatrick until I find an uncorrectable problem. So do we need to draft and gamble on a Rookie QB in the first round? You tell me? Good question. I've been wondering the same thing. I think you only draft a QB at this point if you are 100% sure he is the guy. The only QB I see so far that I have that much confidence about is Luck. Otherwise, I think you draft the best LT, LB, or DL avaiable.
Another Point of View Posted September 27, 2010 Author Posted September 27, 2010 Yes, if they identify a QB they think has franchise potential. Or trade for one if possible. Fitz is a good backup, but he's inaccurate and will turn the ball over as well. I simply need to see more.
K Gun Special Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 Yes, you draft a rookie QB in the first round if you think he can be your franchise QB. What you saw against New England is what Fitz has always brought to the table: a large pair of ca-hones with a lack of consistency in throwing accuracy. Fitz is a gamer. There is no doubt about that in my mind, but you need to be able to hit open guys in critical situations (in the red zone and in the last 3 minutes when down) to get over the 'almost win' hump. This. The guys can play, but something makes him sail passes on occasion and he's not terribly accurate to begin with. He's a band aid not a solution.
Captain Hindsight Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 I liken Fitzy to Jon Kitna of the Bengals a few years ago. Not a great quarterback but can win you some games and plays hard every snap. When it was Palmers turn to play that was a different Bengals team because Palmer was that much better If there is QB next year that Gailey feels he can win with, then you can bet everything he'll take him. A more accurate QB wins yesterday. Loved Fitzy and his performance yesterday but he cant take us to the next level
timba Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 You need better protect to make the throws. I absolutely agree that he needs protection, but you can't draft two people with one pick. 1. QB 2. T 3. OLB 4. T/LB/TE/DE
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 Look at the Jets with Sanchez, 6 Tds and 0 ints this year. Hate the Jets but they do know how to draft and use Fas to build a team.
Jerry Jabber Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 I liken Fitzy to Jon Kitna of the Bengals a few years ago. Not a great quarterback but can win you some games and plays hard every snap. When it was Palmers turn to play that was a different Bengals team because Palmer was that much better If there is QB next year that Gailey feels he can win with, then you can bet everything he'll take him. A more accurate QB wins yesterday. Loved Fitzy and his performance yesterday but he cant take us to the next level I agree. Fitz is going to have an INT for every TD he throws.
finknottle Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 Let's put the question into perspective: Where is the biggest gap in what we have compared to what we need, talent wise? a. Fitz at QB b. Our offensive tackles c. Our defensive line d. Our linebackers Depending on how Fitz progresses and how next years talent looks, I can imagine fixing the lines becoming a bigger priority.
NaPolian8693 Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 Yes, of course you need to draft a quarterback. The problem is, Fitzpatrick will win a few games and manage to blow the number one overall pick. Not drafting a quarterback and trying to build around Fitzpatrick is a horrible idea. He's a good backup and a competitor, but he's just not the future. He can stay around the mentor the new kid, though.
Sabre Bill Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) Yes, you draft a rookie QB in the first round if you think he can be your franchise QB. What you saw against New England is what Fitz has always brought to the table: a large pair of ca-hones with a lack of consistency in throwing accuracy. Fitz is a gamer. There is no doubt about that in my mind, but you need to be able to hit open guys in critical situations (in the red zone and in the last 3 minutes when down) to get over the 'almost win' hump. +1 Play Fitz next year for all I care but if they don't figure out how to get a QB on this team by the end of the draft, it's over... it's gonna be as frustrating as this year... +.5 Let's put the question into perspective: Where is the biggest gap in what we have compared to what we need, talent wise? a. Fitz at QB b. Our offensive tackles c. Our defensive line d. Our linebackers Depending on how Fitz progresses and how next years talent looks, I can imagine fixing the lines becoming a bigger priority. +.5 Though you might be right, it's going to be terribly hard to feed this idea to the starved masses Edited September 27, 2010 by Sabre Bill
tennesseeboy Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 I think we do have to get a new quarterback, but it is up to Fitz in the next 10 games or so to establish that we don't. I'd keep an open mind but I'd certainly be looking at lots of college quarterback film in the meantime.
Thurman#1 Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 I really don't want to get you guys started this morning but let me share my opinnion. I have seen all the great quarterbacks suffer with less starts then Fitzpatrick. My guess is he has around 12. The offensive line is still a problem but Fitpatrick handles the rush differently. He will lead a receiver rather then take the sack and this is the main reason for inconsistancy and poor accuracy. At this point I stick with Fitzpatrick until I find an uncorrectable problem. So do we need to draft and gamble on a Rookie QB in the first round? You tell me? Games started: 23 Games played in: 29. Rather than guess, just google "Ryan Fitzpatrick stats". Pro-football-reference.com is the best site out there.
Mango Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 I agree we need to invest in a franchise QB. I posted somewhere else that I like that Kellen Moore out of Boise State. I think where he falls is dependent on where he is drafted. If we can trade back into the first to get him, and go with a RT(yeah I said it RT), with our first pick, I would love to do that. Fitz would be a good stop gap guy. He has been in the league a while, super smart. Lets groom a franchise QB like he should be. Let him sit and learn for a few years behind Fitzy, and when he come in, he should be pretty ready, ie Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre. Granted we don't have Brett Favre as a mentor, same concept.
Bill from NYC Posted September 27, 2010 Posted September 27, 2010 It depends. If the Bills are in a top 5 slot and a qb is there that they think will be a great one, they will probably not be able to pass up the chance to take him. A team which picks that early is well placed to fill other needs after round 1. For instance, a solid RT can sometimes be found late in the 2nd round (see Jeremy Trueblood). Very early 2nd round picks also have much value in terms of trading down. With all of the differing opinions on this board (a good thing imo), one thing I think most of us can agree on is the fact that in April/11, the Bills will be well situated to make vast improvements to the team.
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