Wilson from Gamehendge Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 Sorry if this has been posted, I have never seen it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPhONc6xC48&feature=related
Buftex Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 (edited) Sorry if this has been posted, I have never seen it here... youtube.com/watch?v=wPhONc6xC48&feature=related I recall, not long after that game, ESPN did a feature analysis on that play, where they spoke with some physicists and specialists, who claimed, pretty emphatically that it was a forward pass. They even had a computer animated version of the play (like this) that came to a much different conclusion. I wish I could find it, or remember exactly where I saw it. Consider, this feature you posted, was created by NFL films, an arm of the NFL. They wouldn't likely conclude that the NFL officials got the call wrong. In the end, all that matters is what they called. I think, had the officials originally ruled it was an illeagal forward pass, we would be remembering the Bills 5th Super Bowl loss at the hand of the St Louis Rams, rather than how we got jobbed by the officials, in Tennessee. The burden on instant replay analysis, during a game, is to prove, conclusively, that the officials got the call wrong. I have yet to see any replay that proves anything, it was that close. As much as it sucked at the time, I have gotten over it. Even if I was 100% convinced the officials were wrong, I have seen far worse calls. In some ways, maybe it was a karmic payback from the football gods, for all of the borderline calls the Bills benefited from during their Super Bowl years? Either way...its' all in the past... Edited September 25, 2010 by Buftex
Nanker Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 Anything on Wide Right that would make the attempt now good?
RayFinkle Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 Great post Wilson....maybe if you have some free time later on you could stop buy my house and kick me in the nuts...maybe run my dog over on your way out.
BuffaloATL Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 That computer animated re-creation cracks me up. Not saying the concept of it being a lateral is incorrect, but the makers of that video proving it via that sorry almost-Tecmo-Bowl-looking re-creation is just ridiculous.
garbag3man Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 Stay in your lanes. Exactly, it doesn't matter what happened, if the coverage team did what they were supposed to, that would have been a stupid failed gadget play that no one remembers.
bowery4 Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 (edited) You should be sorry :doh: I think that about sums it up even now for me, are you trying to raise my blood pressure? Cause that's what your doing. Edited September 25, 2010 by bowery4
SwampD Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 In the end, all that matters is what they called. I think, had the officials originally ruled it was an illeagal forward pass, we would be remembering the Bills 5th Super Bowl loss at the hand of the St Louis Rams, rather than how we got jobbed by the officials, in Tennessee. Stay in your lanes. These two thoughts are all I need to hear about this play ever again.
Meathead Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 (edited) i will go to my grave convinced it was a fwd pass look at the hashmarks and watch where the ball leaves his fingertips and where its caught. its a good foot forward. everyone always points to that one camera shot where it appears the ball travels backwards, but nobody considers the fact that the shot IS ON AN ANGLE so its not a straight sight line and that produces an optical illusion. there are other angles from the top that clearly show exactly where the ball leaves his fingertips and if you compare those two shots you see the ball indeed travels forward granted, thats about impossible to call live and it would have taken huge balls to overturn it. but they still should have. and regardless of what happens regarding not staying in lanes, the bills are still jobbed all-time on that play Edited September 25, 2010 by Meathead
stevestojan Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 It was not a forward pass. My problem with it is that no flag was thrown as the only way to tell it was not a forward pass is watching it from a million angles in slow motion. Anyone watching that full speed for the first time would think "forward pass", especially with the angles the officials had. Then I'm curious if the official review would have upheld. However, KD in CT absolutely NAILED the only point that is important. You stay in your lanes instead of running towards the football like a group of retarded little kids chasing the ice cream truck and we win that game.
JESSEFEFFER Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 The point I'd make is that the HC should make sure that the filed goal is the last play of the game. Wade panicked.
8-8 Forever? Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 I recall, not long after that game, ESPN did a feature analysis on that play, where they spoke with some physicists and specialists, who claimed, pretty emphatically that it was a forward pass. They even had a computer animated version of the play (like this) that came to a much different conclusion. I wish I could find it, or remember exactly where I saw it. Consider, this feature you posted, was created by NFL films, an arm of the NFL. They wouldn't likely conclude that the NFL officials got the call wrong. In the end, all that matters is what they called. I think, had the officials originally ruled it was an illeagal forward pass, we would be remembering the Bills 5th Super Bowl loss at the hand of the St Louis Rams, rather than how we got jobbed by the officials, in Tennessee. The burden on instant replay analysis, during a game, is to prove, conclusively, that the officials got the call wrong. I have yet to see any replay that proves anything, it was that close. As much as it sucked at the time, I have gotten over it. Even if I was 100% convinced the officials were wrong, I have seen far worse calls. In some ways, maybe it was a karmic payback from the football gods, for all of the borderline calls the Bills benefited from during their Super Bowl years? Either way...its' all in the past... I am a longtime bills fan, and homerun throwback was a brilliant call, well executed and the throwback was "good enough to be good" . I've looked at the replays as a biased fan, and the throwback looks extremely close, but at least parallel to the line... good enough to be good. I give it to them as they executed a very complex play extremely well in a do or die situation against a coverage that knew something was coming and still pulled it off. anyone still pissing in their beer over this play needs to shut it down and admit the Bills got smoked fair and square on that one.
McBeane Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 People get over it. It was a lateral pass and therefore is legal. Stop drinking the kool-aid and convincing yourself that we got screwed. We blew the coverage on that play and deserved what we got.
The Dean Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 Sorry if this has been posted, I have never seen it here... youtube.com/watch?v=wPhONc6xC48&feature=related Where's the proof? I see some shabby purported evidence. based on distorted camera angles, but no proof. As Buftex notes, the most complete scientific analysis I have seen suggests the ball was thrown forward. Either way, why bring this up now, in a Bills forum? Actually, this post contributes to the ton of evidence which points to Wilson as the douchiest of the TSW posters. A POS troll to be sure.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 (edited) Watching the current state isn't agitating enough, we need to reopen old wounds too? Why not cut Norwood's kick, OJ's chase, this lateral rubbish and a few first round draft pick busts into a whole clip? Roll "in the crease footage" during the credits while you are at it. Edited September 25, 2010 by over 20 years of fanhood
NyQuil Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 I have a friend who is a Titans fan and he said when he was watching the game he was waiting for a review and it being ruled as a forward pass. At least Dyson fell one yard short of the endzone against the Rams. Kind of a vindictive karma victory.
Offside Number 76 Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 Kick the ball out of bounds and rely on the world-class defense to hold for twenty seconds, and it's a non-issue.
dr.fishopolis Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 That computer animated re-creation cracks me up. Not saying the concept of it being a lateral is incorrect, but the makers of that video proving it via that sorry almost-Tecmo-Bowl-looking re-creation is just ridiculous. If you watch the real play side by side with the animation, they have Wycheck's feet a foot or 2 further than they actually were... in the actual play, his front foot barely hits the 20 when he sets up to throw, in the animation he starts clearly over the 20... in the actual play, you can see green space between his feet and the 20 yard line while he throws... in the animation he's on the 20 the entire time.
Recommended Posts