billsintaiwan Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 gailey is wishy-washy? sullivan wants to see edwards against new england again? or he doesn't? what? the guy is like the soviet news service. same line, over and over. often right about racism in watts and not much else. i get the line that the bills are a dysfunctional franchise. the proof is unfortunately in the pudding. however this article is pure nonsense. http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/jerry-sullivan/article196311.ece
Drew026 Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I hope this guy finds a job writing somewhere else. I'm sick of him.
Delete This Account Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I hope this guy finds a job writing somewhere else. I'm sick of him. you can leave, too. jw
todd Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) Sullivan is a whiny little B word. He desperately seeks the negative side of every situation and tries to compose an article about it. The only "Journalist" I know who might be worse than Sullivan is Matthews in Rochester. And it is close. This latest article is one of the worst he's ever written. gailey is wishy-washy? sullivan wants to see edwards against new england again? or he doesn't? what? the guy is like the soviet news service. same line, over and over. often right about racism in watts and not much else. i get the line that the bills are a dysfunctional franchise. the proof is unfortunately in the pudding. however this article is pure nonsense. http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/jerry-sullivan/article196311.ece Edited September 21, 2010 by todd
bowery4 Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 gailey is wishy-washy? sullivan wants to see edwards against new england again? or he doesn't? what? the guy is like the soviet news service. same line, over and over. often right about racism in watts and not much else. i get the line that the bills are a dysfunctional franchise. the proof is unfortunately in the pudding. however this article is pure nonsense. http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/jerry-sullivan/article196311.ece Sully is just tying to get you to click the link. I did it because that helps support the only local paper and therefore the Bflo economy in some very small way. Otherwise I wouldn't have. I think the open QB battle was intended to go into the season (if it had to). He coached Trent up and said listen last year doesn't matter. You prove yourself now and we all forget all about it. I think he was playing a mind game to give him confidence, although it didn't work at game speed, he got Trent saying and at least in practice games doing some of the right stuff, others were seemingly buying into too, even Lee. Trent for some reason didn't have spine even tho he was given opportunity, this was a great way to find that out for sure. I didn't trust last years coaches to make the decisions and I really wouldn't have if I were him either. I don't really trust that Trent is a good back up tho, if his OL isn't pretty damn solid. The line may grow better with time too though. I think it will and I am sure this is an evaluation year for all of them as well. I think Fitz is more of a Gailey type QB to a certain extent. He knows that he isn't the most accurate but he moves more, can see the field, tosses up some long ones and he has the ability to lead. Trent had accuracy when he had a pair but he seems to just be too damaged. It prolly came down to who could be more on target. We may of known it but maybe Chan needed to see if he couldn't fix him. He couldn't say ok you start the season and have 4 games to prove yourself that is just setting him up to fail and not really very fair. After 2 he knows, it was worth a shot IMO. They say you can't teach accuracy, maybe it is true HIDK. Fitz looked better in his motion IMO in preseason, had more zip on it and he is relatively young. I could see him improving. I am not claiming he is Brett or anything but he does look kind of like a more fearless Flacco, granted his passes are not as strong armed but do we need that anyway? I know he can throw a bomb and a slant in a game. Isn't that what we need? Lastly,I am sure Chan also is taking the progress of the line into this decision. They looked better in PS too, now in the games meh not so much. I am sure some of that has to do with what Trent was doing out there. I am just as sure that his game was hurting by what they did out there too. Mostly I think Chan doesn't want to lose. He knows you don't change the culture by tanking the season for a high pick. The ppl on here saying that are just ignorant and so is Scully. About his comments about Spiller, I am sure that not having all three in the preseason is making what we can get out of them more of a chore than it should be. We didn't get to see the 3 headed beast because they didn't play on the same field really til the first game. Making use of those weapons means you have to have time to see what they can do. He is our new coach teaching a new system to new (to him) players. These things take time and I am sure he is learning all the time too. The schemes should get better, the balance should be there more as time goes by. I am just as disappointed as anyone with how they have looked the first two games but I think it is in my nature to stay optimistic or something because I'm still buying it.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Sully has always been negative even when times were good. That said, he made some good points but Gailey isn't wishy-washy He wanted to see how these guys practice himself and see who were the best players. In practice and preseason Trent and Spiller were the best but in real games they weren't. When the bullets fly trent panics and looses confidence and does what he always does and that's checkdown out of fear and desperation. Spiller is a rookie and has obvious ability and when he settles down he will explode for big gains. Fitzy is a gamer and is why he should have been the starter but hey Trent looked better in preseason so Gailey made the right decision then and he is making the right one now. Gaily is still learning the players and will have this team moving in the right direction just like he did at Pittsburg it just might not be this year. I would keep Trent in to get the top pick but Fitz is the best option to win this season.
ChasBB Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) Hey Sully, remember George Plimpton? Of course you do. He was the famous sports writer who would actually participate with professional athletes as summed up nicely in this review of "Paper Lion: Confessions of a Last-String Quarterback" where Plimpton actually practiced with the Detroit Lions: "George Plimpton was the first, in the sports world, to employ "participatory journalism" in order to produce a story, or in this case a book. Over the years, Plimpton put himself in several different positions for the sake of his readers... hockey goalie... prizefighter... pitcher... he even tagged along on the PGA Tour. However, none of those really hit home on a large scale quite like PAPER LION, the story of Plimpton's trials and errors in training camp with the Detroit Lions prior to the 1963 season. It even led to a movie starring Alan Alda by the same name." (http://www.amazon.com/Paper-Lion-Confessions-Last-String-Quarterback/dp/1592280153) Why not YOU, Sully? It would be such a great service to your readers to provide that kind of insight into the inner-workings of the Buffalo Bills. Oh, maybe you could lineup at WR and get a real feel for a Donte Whitner hit, no? Perhaps you could lineup at outside LB and fend off a Corey McIntyre block and then write a story telling of your experiences as an NFL player for a day. C'mon Sully, you can do it -- we want a writer of your talent to get down-and-dirty with the Bills in an actual practice session and then tell us all about your experiences as only a writer of your fine talent can do. Oh, it would be a VERY GOOD read. Of course, having the opportunity of walking away from practice alive and actually writing the story would be the chance you'd have to take, but hey, you're a tough guy. You can do it! Go for it Sully, go for it!! Edit: Oh, I'm quite certain the Buffalo Bills would only be too happy to oblige your request. Edited September 21, 2010 by ChasBB
mpl6876 Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) I thought it was a very well written. (1) He states "makes me to wonder if he's even remotely as sharp an offensive mind as we've been led to believe." Not sure how anyone can disagree with that statement since the Bills offense is dead last in NFL. I ask what has coach Gailey done after two games? (2) "They watched the game films. What compelled them to hand Edwards the job after he had failed miserably twice in the last two seasons? Edwards looked the part in practice and preseason, but jobs are won and lost in real games." How can one debate this statement. Then he goes on to talk about how the players rallied around Fitz last year. I can only assume Gailey's ego led him to believe he could make TE a solid NFL QB. His ego blinded him from looking at the facts. The fact is most of us knew TE didn't have it despite his preseason successs. Now, he yanks him after two games and some fans here are praising him for that. Amazing... (3) He asks "What did the Offensive Genius figure out in two weeks that wasn't plainly evident in those old game films?" Great question and I would like to hear Gailey's response. (4) He says "but after two games, Nix's guy is performing down to the role of befuddled fumbler, over his head in the dual roles of head coach and offensive coordinator." Very true statement. True statement. Gailey has done little to nothing in two games. One can only counter with it's two games. (5) Sully writes "Gailey anointed C.J. Spiller as his featured back." Then he benches him for ML. Also. he hardly uses him in the Miami game. IMHO, it appears that Gailey doesn't know how to utilize three backs effectively or better yet maybe having 3 staring RB is problematic. Either way or disagree with me, it is hard to understand what the hell Gailey is doing with CJ after two games. (6) Lastly, he says "the guy had six months to coach 'em up and get the offense fixed. Sure did. I remember reading how this was going to happen. I remember all those delusional posts. In fact, I was even starting to believe them. It only took me two games to what up back to reality. Sully goes on to say "instead, it seems like he's making things up as he goes along." Sure does and nothing is more evident by the starting and benching of TE after two games. So much for the confidence factor... I have to commend Sully on writing such a descriptive and accurate piece. Thanks for trying to hold this organization accountable and thanks for being blunt and honest even it is negative. Thanks for not blindly jumping on the Gailey/Nix bandwagon. I don't want to read some half truths, sugar coated articles, and fact less optimistic proproganda. Kudos to Sully. Edited September 21, 2010 by mpl6876
eball Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I think Sully has it dead wrong on this occasion. Benching Edwards after two weeks IS a move of desperation, but not out of weakness. It was obvious to anyone watching that Trent just can't or won't pull the trigger, and he lacks fire or "want to." One thing we know we'll get from Fitz is a guy who will do anything he can to make plays. He's Flutie-esque in a way. Folks do realize he had a winning record with the Bills last year, right? Remember how Flutie made a sub-par OL look better? Watch what happens with Fitz in there. He is not the answer, long term, but he's a much better solution right now than the crap we just watched for two weeks. I'd wager Gailey earned a lot of respect from the vets on the team when he made this announcement, because I guarantee every one of them know it's the right call.
The Chief Corky Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 The only thing Sully didn't say is that the Bills are an 0-16 team.
mpl6876 Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) I think Sully has it dead wrong on this occasion. Benching Edwards after two weeks IS a move of desperation, but not out of weakness. It was obvious to anyone watching that Trent just can't or won't pull the trigger, and he lacks fire or "want to." One thing we know we'll get from Fitz is a guy who will do anything he can to make plays. He's Flutie-esque in a way. Folks do realize he had a winning record with the Bills last year, right? Remember how Flutie made a sub-par OL look better? Watch what happens with Fitz in there. He is not the answer, long term, but he's a much better solution right now than the crap we just watched for two weeks. I'd wager Gailey earned a lot of respect from the vets on the team when he made this announcement, because I guarantee every one of them know it's the right call. Funny how you give coach Gailey so much credit for making this move. That amazing me! Here is my take. I blame Gailey for not starting Fitz in the first place. Your words are Fitz he is a "much better solution," "had a winning record last year," pulls the trigger, has the fire, etc... How bout holding Gailey accountable... Respect comes from winning and so far Gailey is 0-2 and likely to be 0-4. Edited September 21, 2010 by mpl6876
mpl6876 Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Hey Sully, remember George Plimpton? Of course you do. He was the famous sports writer who would actually participate with professional athletes as summed up nicely in this review of "Paper Lion: Confessions of a Last-String Quarterback" where Plimpton actually practiced with the Detroit Lions: "George Plimpton was the first, in the sports world, to employ "participatory journalism" in order to produce a story, or in this case a book. Over the years, Plimpton put himself in several different positions for the sake of his readers... hockey goalie... prizefighter... pitcher... he even tagged along on the PGA Tour. However, none of those really hit home on a large scale quite like PAPER LION, the story of Plimpton's trials and errors in training camp with the Detroit Lions prior to the 1963 season. It even led to a movie starring Alan Alda by the same name." (http://www.amazon.com/Paper-Lion-Confessions-Last-String-Quarterback/dp/1592280153) Why not YOU, Sully? It would be such a great service to your readers to provide that kind of insight into the inner-workings of the Buffalo Bills. Oh, maybe you could lineup at WR and get a real feel for a Donte Whitner hit, no? Perhaps you could lineup at outside LB and fend off a Corey McIntyre block and then write a story telling of your experiences as an NFL player for a day. C'mon Sully, you can do it -- we want a writer of your talent to get down-and-dirty with the Bills in an actual practice session and then tell us all about your experiences as only a writer of your fine talent can do. Oh, it would be a VERY GOOD read. Of course, having the opportunity of walking away from practice alive and actually writing the story would be the chance you'd have to take, but hey, you're a tough guy. You can do it! Go for it Sully, go for it!! Edit: Oh, I'm quite certain the Buffalo Bills would only be too happy to oblige your request. I have a better idea Chase. Why don't you put the pads on and line up at WR? Maybe then you can get the hell knocked out of you and you might actually start making sense. The biggest worthless thread I have read since being here. Do yourself a favor and delete it.
ChasBB Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I have a better idea Chase. Why don't you put the pads on and line up at WR? Maybe then you can get the hell knocked out of you and you might actually start making sense. The biggest worthless thread I have read since being here. Do yourself a favor and delete it. Oh, on the contrary, I think this thread is a great idea. But whatever -- you can have your opinion.
ChasBB Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) Anyone else on this site think that Sully is mpl6876? I do. Edited September 21, 2010 by ChasBB
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Panthers and Titans and Raiders all making QB changes after 2 weeks.
ChasBB Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Panthers and Titans and Raiders all making QB changes after 2 weeks. These teams are saying they are not giving up by making these changes. Desperation maybe, but still necessary.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I thought it was a very well written. (1) He states "makes me to wonder if he's even remotely as sharp an offensive mind as we've been led to believe." Not sure how anyone can disagree with that statement since the Bills offense is dead last in NFL. I ask what has coach Gailey done after two games? (2) "They watched the game films. What compelled them to hand Edwards the job after he had failed miserably twice in the last two seasons? Edwards looked the part in practice and preseason, but jobs are won and lost in real games." How can one debate this statement. Then he goes on to talk about how the players rallied around Fitz last year. I can only assume Gailey's ego led him to believe he could make TE a solid NFL QB. His ego blinded him from looking at the facts. The fact is most of us knew TE didn't have it despite his preseason successs. Now, he yanks him after two games and some fans here are praising him for that. Amazing... (3) He asks "What did the Offensive Genius figure out in two weeks that wasn't plainly evident in those old game films?" Great question and I would like to hear Gailey's response. (4) He says "but after two games, Nix's guy is performing down to the role of befuddled fumbler, over his head in the dual roles of head coach and offensive coordinator." Very true statement. True statement. Gailey has done little to nothing in two games. One can only counter with it's two games. (5) Sully writes "Gailey anointed C.J. Spiller as his featured back." Then he benches him for ML. Also. he hardly uses him in the Miami game. IMHO, it appears that Gailey doesn't know how to utilize three backs effectively or better yet maybe having 3 staring RB is problematic. Either way or disagree with me, it is hard to understand what the hell Gailey is doing with CJ after two games. (6) Lastly, he says "the guy had six months to coach 'em up and get the offense fixed. Sure did. I remember reading how this was going to happen. I remember all those delusional posts. In fact, I was even starting to believe them. It only took me two games to what up back to reality. Sully goes on to say "instead, it seems like he's making things up as he goes along." Sure does and nothing is more evident by the starting and benching of TE after two games. So much for the confidence factor... I have to commend Sully on writing such a descriptive and accurate piece. Thanks for trying to hold this organization accountable and thanks for being blunt and honest even it is negative. Thanks for not blindly jumping on the Gailey/Nix bandwagon. I don't want to read some half truths, sugar coated articles, and fact less optimistic proproganda. Kudos to Sully. the man is entitled to his opinion, and certainly parts of what he has written can be debated. where he lost me was his assertion that there was no open competition for the qb spot. gailey, like every other coach, has a thought process for how he wants to run his team. he's looking for the right mix of players to get it done, and pretty clearly figured TE had the most upside for his offensive scheme. there is little doubt two weeks into the season that the offense isn't working. on the other side of the coin is his desire to win some football games. more than anything, it's the personal attacks on the guy that turn me off to his style of writing. but, i suppose, he pimps what he pimps and gets people talking.
robertpaul49 Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 My feeling is that Chan is still trying to a feel for the team, which is why he is featuring different players each week. Obviously, he felt that Trent was the best quarterback in preseason, but he hasn't been able to show it during the regular season.
pBills Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 gailey is wishy-washy? sullivan wants to see edwards against new england again? or he doesn't? what? the guy is like the soviet news service. same line, over and over. often right about racism in watts and not much else. i get the line that the bills are a dysfunctional franchise. the proof is unfortunately in the pudding. however this article is pure nonsense. http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/jerry-sullivan/article196311.ece Sully sucks. He does NOTHING but write to complain. Let's face it this guy has probably played as much football as my 3 year old daughter yet feels as though he can call people that have been in the game for most their lives wishy washy or weak minded. Face it Sully you know crap... this move was necessary.
BuffaloWings Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 My feeling is that Chan is still trying to a feel for the team, which is why he is featuring different players each week. Obviously, he felt that Trent was the best quarterback in preseason, but he hasn't been able to show it during the regular season. Bingo. I wouldn't have thought that he's featuring different players each week, but maybe it's possible. Spiller in Week 1, Lynch in Week 2 (I just assumed that was a showcase for a potential trade), and we may see more Jackson in Week 3 - he's had good games against the Pats* in the past, after all. Hindsight being 20/20, I wouldn't be surprised if Gailey told Trent at the beginning of camp that it's his job to lose and he'd have a quick hook if he wasn't performing. Well, here you go...he's not performing and the team is searching for some offensive identity, so it's now someone else's turn.
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