Nervous Guy Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Was he a "moran" or just a moron? stupid is what stupid spells.
starrymessenger Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Either year, the Bills are excrement because of the lack of talent on the roster. Talent makes the coach, not the other way around. Jauron actually looked like a good coach with Urlacher, Briggs, Brown, Harris et al. And Belichick looked like Hank Bullough when he coached the Browns. It's WAY to early to judge Gailey as a coach. Criticsm of Nix/Ralph become more legit as time goes on, but two games for the head coach. No. True re Gailey but Jauron showed his true colours in Chicago eventually and, though its perhaps hard to know for sure, had a lot to say in the drafts during his tenure in Buffalo that are the real reason this team (and other losers like, until recently, the Lions and Rams)is in such pathetic shape. Probably shouldn't repeat what has been said a million times but watching us put no presssure on Rodgers (when his games are usually a sackfest)and then watching Orapko these past two weeks looking very much like Skins best defensive player just makes me sick to my stomach. Word is that Maybin was Dickie's pick.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 20, 2010 Author Posted September 20, 2010 One of the best features of this board is the search feature. If you use search to find the word "moran" you'll come across a pretty entertaining thread from PPP board.
Nervous Guy Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 One of the best features of this board is the search feature. If you use search to find the word "moran" you'll come across a pretty entertaining thread from PPP board. yeah...nice try Joe.
DanInUticaTampa Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Three starting RBs is a flawed concept. Try telling that to the ravens.... though I agree, there were other needs that needed attention.
Cynical Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 1) Edwards is regressing even more than he did last year. 2) Trying to run a 3-4 with 4-3 players. Not just 4-3 players, but undersized 4-3 players targeted to play a hybrid version of the Tampa 2 where the focus of the D seemed to center on DB's. 3) Just guessing, but I'm thinking the OL had more continuity last year than this in terms of coaching. The only reason I can think that the blocking is SO bad with largely the same players as last year is that the new OL coach is a drastic departure from last year's, and the linemen haven't figured out what he wants yet.
CountDorkula Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 The one thing that really pissed me off was being down by 27 points and we basically gave up and treated the game like we were up by 7 points and we were trying to run out the clock. Most teams would at least give it effort and try to atleast advace the ball by trhowing it, but nope, not us. We packed (no pun intended) it in and left with our tails between out legs. A losers mentality.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 First DJ was a smart guy, just not the coach people liked to see. He was hampered by a lack of talent and poor FO moves, but was also VERY VERY conservative and seemed to be big on making guys feel ok with losing. What would he have done to win either of the first two games. Maybe Fitz starts vs Miami, but their D was solid. I would have been surprised to see another QB pull a win out there. Green Bay is better at EVERY postion on the field. Every one. Maybe The Bills have better kickers and RB due to injury. No way DJ fares any better there. Chan is an upgrade as is Nix. If there are enough of an improvment to get the job done, well we will see.
Benjamin Barker Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 (edited) Pat Moran? Maybe you mean "Moron"? PTR lol Promo you are clueless GET A BRAIN, MORAN! http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/500/moran.jpg Edited September 20, 2010 by Benjamin Barker
....lybob Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 The Bills philosophy seems to be that you have to take a step backwards before you take another step backwards. I love how this board forgets history every summer. and as I warned Chan supporters early- I've heard this rant for a long time. there's no way Phillips can be as bad as than that wimp Levi, there's no way Williams can be as bad as that as that dolt Phillips, there's no way Mularkey can be as bad as that weasel Williams, there's no way that Jauron can be as bad as that Basket case Mularkey, and finally, there's no way that Chan can be as bad as that Manikin Jauron- the only thing I wonder is what descriptive word we will use when dumping Chan.
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Jauron got his guys to play his Pop Warner Mighty Mite schemes to the best of their ability. They played hard and he had 4 years to bring in the players to suit his systems. That was his oft cited strength as a coach. Unfortunately, that's not what it takes to be good NFL team, a team that can make the playoffs. Having underwhelming talent, guys that "feel the love" and "want to be here" and keeping the continuity can keep a mediocre team mediocre for a few years. But the remedial schemes, lack of in-game adjustments, etc. meant the team was always playing with one arm tied behind its back and the better teams could wipe the floor with the Bills virtually every time.
GOBILLS78 Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 This team could win two games and not change the fact that Jauron was a truly awful head coach for the Bills.
FightClub Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 (edited) I agree. That's why on January 2nd, if a loss at the Jets clinches the #1 pick, I'll be rooting for the Jets. While I understand the players want to win & will be trying, I don't understand the fans who want to feel good with victory 2 or 3 of the season when in the long run it could cost the team the impact player they so desperately need to start turning things around. There was a thread where someone listed the #1 pick QBs since 1970, I did the math & 6 of 18 (33%) ended up winning the Super Bowl at least once. 4 of the 18 (22%) won the Super Bowl more than once. Boy, are you all you guys rooting for "bottoming out" going to be disappointed when Ralph trades the #1 pick away. Edited September 20, 2010 by FightClub
billsfaninvgs Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 What's a "moran", anyway? Moran was the former sheriff of Clark County NV.... His son is a good attorney in Las Vegas
Swift Sylvan Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 I think it mostly has to due with Talent of the roster. In 2006 we were able to play close games against teams like the Chargers and Colts even if we had lost. Of course at that time we had: Fletcher, Clements (when he was still good), Schobel, pre-injury KO, Greer, pre-injury Crowell, Peters and some others I'm not thinking of...which makes me wonder if we had held on to these guys and drafted at other spots where would we be right now?
Thunderstealer Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 a) they've played two games, not 16 b) it's not essentially the same set of players. The #1 WR and RT are both gone, and they were probably the two best players on offense (along with Jackson). c) Jauron had several other talented players during his tenure; Peters, Greer, etc. The two teams Buffalo played so far seem to be well oiled at 2-0. Maybe they're the leagues best. The point is there's some sucky teams on the schedule Buffalo can hang with and win. Lindell games y'know.
bowery4 Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Either year, the Bills are excrement because of the lack of talent on the roster. Talent makes the coach, not the other way around. Jauron actually looked like a good coach with Urlacher, Briggs, Brown, Harris et al. And Belichick looked like Hank Bullough when he coached the Browns. It's WAY to early to judge Gailey as a coach. Criticsm of Nix/Ralph become more legit as time goes on, but two games for the head coach. No. it's not the coaching - honestly joemac the talent level on offense is well below what dj/fewell had last year. this is unfortunately going to take until the 2012 season before we are truly contending for a playoff spot - and that is not the head coaches fault. actually it isn't even nix's fault - you can blame nix for anything that transpires from january of this year forward. if we all remember in his first presser he did say it would take some time to get it right. i still think we have a good plan in place - a good approach in place - we just need the time to get the talent in place. 2010 will be aweful - 2011 will be a little better - 2012 will be enjoyable - and i can live with that - i don't like it - but that is the reality of the talent situation both nix and gailey inherited. a) they've played two games, not 16 b) it's not essentially the same set of players. The #1 WR and RT are both gone, and they were probably the two best players on offense (along with Jackson). c) Jauron had several other talented players during his tenure; Peters, Greer, etc. True re Gailey but Jauron showed his true colours in Chicago eventually and, though its perhaps hard to know for sure, had a lot to say in the drafts during his tenure in Buffalo that are the real reason this team (and other losers like, until recently, the Lions and Rams)is in such pathetic shape. Probably shouldn't repeat what has been said a million times but watching us put no presssure on Rodgers (when his games are usually a sackfest)and then watching Orapko these past two weeks looking very much like Skins best defensive player just makes me sick to my stomach. Word is that Maybin was Dickie's pick. Try telling that to the ravens.... though I agree, there were other needs that needed attention. Jauron got his guys to play his Pop Warner Mighty Mite schemes to the best of their ability. They played hard and he had 4 years to bring in the players to suit his systems. That was his oft cited strength as a coach. Unfortunately, that's not what it takes to be good NFL team, a team that can make the playoffs. Having underwhelming talent, guys that "feel the love" and "want to be here" and keeping the continuity can keep a mediocre team mediocre for a few years. But the remedial schemes, lack of in-game adjustments, etc. meant the team was always playing with one arm tied behind its back and the better teams could wipe the floor with the Bills virtually every time. This team could win two games and not change the fact that Jauron was a truly awful head coach for the Bills. All of you guys have really got to stop making sense. There is no room here for that we lost 2 games!
jr1 Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Dick and Chan are the same. Yes men who will keep Ralph in the loop. Bills can spend 8 million on Lee Evans but not a big time coach
....lybob Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Boy, are you all you guys rooting for "bottoming out" going to be disappointed when Ralph trades the #1 pick away. RW is praying for a rookie cap
mob16151 Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 First DJ was a smart guy, just not the coach people liked to see. He was hampered by a lack of talent and poor FO moves, but was also VERY VERY conservative and seemed to be big on making guys feel ok with losing. What would he have done to win either of the first two games. Maybe Fitz starts vs Miami, but their D was solid. I would have been surprised to see another QB pull a win out there. Green Bay is better at EVERY postion on the field. Every one. Maybe The Bills have better kickers and RB due to injury. No way DJ fares any better there. Chan is an upgrade as is Nix. If there are enough of an improvment to get the job done, well we will see. Dick Jauron was an integral part of that Front Office!!!
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