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Yeah, and Brad Johnson couldn't do it with Minn or Washington....

...and Trent Dilfer couldn't do it with Tampa Bay....

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guys, guys...don't confuse him with facts....er...truths...er....don't confuse him! :devil:

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That's an opinion, you schmuck. Not a "fact".

 

Want facts?

 

Here are some "facts":

 

Brad Johnson put up 48 pts in the Super Bowl.

Trent Dilfer.....DILFER!!!......won the Superbowl.

How did Jeff Hoestetler do? Mark Rypien do? Against a superior signal caller.

 

Waiting................

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FACT non of them had what was essentially a ROOKIE QB take over his team and lead them to a superbowl. Rookie had the same system and same talent around him.

 

FACT: we are stuck with a backup QB AGAIN as our starter.

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I missed the part where we won a Super Bowl with a first-ballot Hall of Famer at quarterback.

 

Christ ICE.  This is really getting old.

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We were there 4x straight. What did we do before him or after? Absolutely nothing. Now argue that.

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No matter how much you want to deflect it, it all starts and ends with the QB. And since Kelly we haven't had one.

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Last I checked, Kelly didn't win any Super Bowls either...

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FACT non of them had what was essentially a ROOKIE QB take over his team and lead them to a superbowl. Rookie had the same system and same talent around him.

 

How did Tom Brady do a few years back?

 

This is comical, Ice. Keep it up. Youre digging the hole youre in so deep, you'll be able to order Chop Suey direct in a few hours.

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How did Tom Brady do a few years back?

 

This is comical, Ice. Keep it up. Youre digging the hole youre in so deep, you'll be able to order Chop Suey direct in a few hours.

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Well gee I don't know, as a rookie he won a superbowl, and last year did the same. Not too bad if you ask me.

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We were there 4x straight. What did we do before him or after?  Absolutely nothing. Now argue that.

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You said we will never WIN the SB with our current QB situation. I merely pointed out that we once had one of the best QBs in history and still didn't win a Super Bowl.

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Well gee I don't know, as a rookie he won a superbowl, and last year did the same. Not too bad if you ask me.

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To answer your question...

 

2001 11-5 Superbowl win

 

2002- 9-7 missed playoffs

 

2003 14-2 Superbowl win

 

2004 11-1

 

Man RK you are right, Brady sure has had a shaky time of it :devil:

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You said we will never WIN the SB with our current QB situation.  I merely pointed out that we once had one of the best QBs in history and still didn't win a Super Bowl.

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My point exactly. We don't have a guy like Kelly at all. So where does that leave us? Up sh-- creek without a paddle.

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My point exactly.  We don't have a guy like Kelly at all. So where does that leave us? Up sh-- creek without a paddle.

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I'm beggin ya...read JS's column and get back to us....please!!!

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To answer your question...

 

2001  11-5 Superbowl win

 

2002- 9-7 missed playoffs

 

2003 14-2 Superbowl win

 

2004  11-1

 

Man RK you are right, Brady sure has had a shaky time of it  :devil:

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You missed 2000: Sat on the bench. :D Saw PT in one game and went 1/3.

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Well gee I don't know, as a rookie he won a superbowl, and last year did the same. Not too bad if you ask me.

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Actually it was Adam Vinatieri that got the win for the Pats in both Super Bowls.

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