Chan Gailey's

[Estro]

After watching Gailey's presser I think it's pretty evident he now fully understands how bad Trent Edwards is. He mentions several times that they are still assessing "who they are" and that they will make the necessary changes to improve. How could you not pull the chord on Edwards? Yes, he is not surrounded with a lot of talent, but he is so bad, that it is embarrassing.

 

I'm still willing to give Gailey and Nix a chance. I think they have a chance to right the ship with a full 3 year commitment, but they need to find a QB with some confidence and stones. Gailey's biggest mistake to this point was underestimating how pitiful of a QB Edwards is. He's the type of guy who looks serviceable May-August, but come September he turns into a highschool QB out there.

 

If Edwards stinks the joint up @ New England look for Gailey and Nix to pull the plug on him and go with Brohm/Fitzpatrick.

 

One other concern I have with the Gailey/Nix combo is their sudden change of opinion regarding CJ Spiller. Guy looked lights out all preseason, and then he has a poor game in the home opener. Now all of the sudden he's not the starter? It seems like a knee jerk reaction and indicates a team that is already in full panic mode. It doesn't make sense to take a guy so high, annoint him starter and then put him on the pine after one poor showing. It's only going to hurt Spiller's confidence in the long run.

[Punch]

I thought his comments about not wanting guys on this team that are ok with losing were, perhaps, referring directly to Trent's actions late in the game (ie, running out of bounds on 4th and 11). Not that the offense had a legitimate shot at scoring 3 TDs in the final few minutes but you'd like to see your QB at least... well, do anything but sheepishly surrender.

[Estro]

I thought his comments about not wanting guys on this team that are ok with losing were, perhaps, referring directly to Trent's actions late in the game (ie, running out of bounds on 4th and 11). Not that the offense had a legitimate shot at scoring 3 TDs in the final few minutes but you'd like to see your QB at least... well, do anything but sheepishly surrender.

 

I kind of got the same sense. Second week in a row where Edwards throws/runs short of the stick on 4th and game. Just shows you what type of mentality our singal caller has. Refuses to throw the ball downfield unless soemone is WIDE OPEN. I saw Rodgers throw to plenty of well covered receivers today, and low and behold many of them were complete. As a Bills fan I forgot such things were possible. It's like you're watching another sport when the Bills offense takes the field. The ineptitude is scary, and I put 75% of the blame on the guy who touches the ball every single snap. He's the worst player on our team, does anyone disagree?

Edited September 20, 2010 by Estro

[mrags]

Agreed Estro. He always looks decent to good in preseason and then as soon as real games start he doesn't pull the trigger. I know he doesnt have lots of time, any good wrs (I am in the "trade Evans" for just about anything you can get crowd), but he's gotta have some kind of awareness out there and he doesn't at all. I'm all for trading every single player on this damn team. I'm sick of loosing and being a huge joke. Trade everyone for 3 packs of slim jims and a 12 pack of yoohoo and well be better off.

[Geno Smith's Arm]

None of this mess is Chan Gailey's fault. he has inherited a team low on talent, and suffering from a personality disorder.

 

People an complain, but what would YOU do? The best anyone can come up with is "Put in Brian Brohm, that's what I would do!". There's nothing that can be done right now.

[Punch]

I absolutely agree. Trent is more than likely shell shocked and beyond reclamation at this point. I think Chan is simply kicking all the tires... in other words, he needed to be sure that Trent was completely fried before moving on to Plan B. Of course, if he remains the starter for too long, this could unfortunately not be the case. I hope he has seen enough after 2 weeks.

[reddogblitz]

None of this mess is Chan Gailey's fault. he has inherited a team low on talent, and suffering from a personality disorder.

I don't buy this. Perry Fewell last year yearh, but Chan had the whole off season to bring in new talent if what he had was not up to snuff. He could have signed Jake Delhomeme or Marc Bulger or signed more OL or drafted help. he didn't. He and Buddy are to blame.

[mpl6876]

None of this mess is Chan Gailey's fault. he has inherited a team low on talent, and suffering from a personality disorder.

 

People an complain, but what would YOU do? The best anyone can come up with is "Put in Brian Brohm, that's what I would do!". There's nothing that can be done right now.

 

Not too long ago, there were all kind of fans here telling us how this team was going to surprise everyone, Gailey would be so innovative and creative on offense, our young guys would perform well, Gailey would have success with TE, Troup would be a monster in the middle, our three headed monster RB crew and the electricfying CJ Spiller, our solid secondary would create many ints, etc...

 

Now, fans here are singing another tune. It's not Gailey's fault as you put it. A few weeks ago he was supposed to be the savior? True he has crap to work with and when realistic fans like myself stated this we received a ration of shite. I recall saying on several occassions we needed a QB, OL, WR, LB, run stopper, and a pass rusher. It was cystal clear and many of us were able to objectively look at the facts. Any media member who stated the obvious were bashed by the posters here. Now, all thos posters are in hiding. This board has never been so quiet. I give credit to those who have admitted their irrational point of view was incorrect. I get no enjoyment out of being correct in my assessment of the Bills. I am so upset that I allowed myself to believe some of your delusional points of view. It has only made my pain worse. That is my fault.

 

Gailey has looked anything but impressive and I refuse to give him a free pass. You can if you like. Thus far Gailey receives a big fat "f" grade. This organization is pathetic!

[CosmicBills]

None of this mess is Chan Gailey's fault. he has inherited a team low on talent, and suffering from a personality disorder.

 

People an complain, but what would YOU do? The best anyone can come up with is "Put in Brian Brohm, that's what I would do!". There's nothing that can be done right now.

Actually that's not true. The game plan that Gailey called the past two weeks has been awful. Worse than awful, it's been embarrassing. So far he's been out coached by everyone he's faced, and it hasn't been close.

 

Doesn't mean he can't turn it around, but right now Gailey's play calling is uninspired at best, abhorrent at worst.

[infernus]

Not too long ago, there were all kind of fans here telling us how this team was going to surprise everyone, Gailey would be so innovative and creative on offense, our young guys would perform well, Gailey would have success with TE, Troup would be a monster in the middle, our three headed monster RB crew and the electricfying CJ Spiller, our solid secondary would create many ints, etc...

 

Now, fans here are singing another tune. It's not Gailey's fault as you put it. A few weeks ago he was supposed to be the savior? True he has crap to work with and when realistic fans like myself stated this we received a ration of shite. I recall saying on several occassions we needed a QB, OL, WR, LB, run stopper, and a pass rusher. It was cystal clear and many of us were able to objectively look at the facts. Any media member who stated the obvious were bashed by the posters here. Now, all thos posters are in hiding. This board has never been so quiet. I give credit to those who have admitted their irrational point of view was incorrect. I get no enjoyment out of being correct in my assessment of the Bills. I am so upset that I allowed myself to believe some of your delusional points of view. It has only made my pain worse. That is my fault.

 

Gailey has looked anything but impressive and I refuse to give him a free pass. You can if you like. Thus far Gailey receives a big fat "f" grade. This organization is pathetic!

 

You need to relax a little bit. What would you have predicted the score of this game to be? Totally a lot closer? Green bay's home opener? Doubtful. We need to be objective of the team this year, especially only two weeks in.. Expect the team to improve week after week rather than come out like they were shot out of a cannon

[mpl6876]

You need to relax a little bit. What would you have predicted the score of this game to be? Totally a lot closer? Green bay's home opener? Doubtful. We need to be objective of the team this year, especially only two weeks in.. Expect the team to improve week after week rather than come out like they were shot out of a cannon

 

Actually, I predicted Packers 41 Bills 17. I am a realist and I expected very little from this team. My main point which you may have missed is that people here weren't objective and they slammed so many posters who were. I am wondering where those posters went?

 

What is improvement to you? I thought we upgraded the coaching position but thus far I have seen nothing that indicates this to be true.

 

Oh, by the way, I am very relaxed.

[boyst]

Actually, I predicted Packers 41 Bills 17. I am a realist and I expected very little from this team. My main point which you may have missed is that people here weren't objective and they slammed so many posters who were. I am wondering where those posters went?

 

What is improvement to you? I thought we upgraded the coaching position but thus far I have seen nothing that indicates this to be true.

 

Oh, by the way, I am very relaxed.

It is simple. We have more posters than ever before. They are quick to jump the gun and say so much, I mean, look at the thread on game day, 10000 threads on the same subject. There were 4 threads today on Clay Matthews play in the span of 2 hours. Many feel that quantity is more than quality and due to that content suffers. I post some times, more often than I should, but I try to make concise points. I probably fail at this more than succeed when my emotion gets ahold of me because I am that tied up in the Buffalo Bills.

 

But back to the OP and thread, I cannot believe that any organization would cut a QB of Edwards calibre in a season and no team would ever do it. It would send a message but that message would probably backfire. I think Gailey is discovering a team that is disenfranchised, content with the losing attitude, and a team that has no identity. He rode in and like any headcoach was thinking "ok, I can really do something with this." That's how coaches think, good or bad. In two games he has found that this is a team that is full of "losers." Guys that do not know what it is like to win, who have no leaders, no soul. Gailey is in the middle of the ocean with a boat full of guys who just simply do not know what to do. Our team is flat and not playing at their full potential. This is not soley a coaching issue, this is an organizational issue. It will take a team to fix it, from the front office to the benchwarmers, we need to find an identy, we need to find discontent in losing. I Billieve things will get better and like everyone else I am hurting, but simply put, there are too many fingers pointing in too many ways to point blame in one direction. I hate calling anything a failure so I will call this misrepresentation of football.

[mpl6876]

It is simple. We have more posters than ever before. They are quick to jump the gun and say so much, I mean, look at the thread on game day, 10000 threads on the same subject. There were 4 threads today on Clay Matthews play in the span of 2 hours. Many feel that quantity is more than quality and due to that content suffers. I post some times, more often than I should, but I try to make concise points. I probably fail at this more than succeed when my emotion gets ahold of me because I am that tied up in the Buffalo Bills.

 

But back to the OP and thread, I cannot believe that any organization would cut a QB of Edwards calibre in a season and no team would ever do it. It would send a message but that message would probably backfire. I think Gailey is discovering a team that is disenfranchised, content with the losing attitude, and a team that has no identity. He rode in and like any headcoach was thinking "ok, I can really do something with this." That's how coaches think, good or bad. In two games he has found that this is a team that is full of "losers." Guys that do not know what it is like to win, who have no leaders, no soul. Gailey is in the middle of the ocean with a boat full of guys who just simply do not know what to do. Our team is flat and not playing at their full potential. This is not soley a coaching issue, this is an organizational issue. It will take a team to fix it, from the front office to the benchwarmers, we need to find an identy, we need to find discontent in losing. I Billieve things will get better and like everyone else I am hurting, but simply put, there are too many fingers pointing in too many ways to point blame in one direction. I hate calling anything a failure so I will call this misrepresentation of football.

 

Jboy, Really solid post. I share in your pain.

[Geno Smith's Arm]

Actually that's not true. The game plan that Gailey called the past two weeks has been awful. Worse than awful, it's been embarrassing. So far he's been out coached by everyone he's faced, and it hasn't been close.

 

Doesn't mean he can't turn it around, but right now Gailey's play calling is uninspired at best, abhorrent at worst.

 

It's not the game plan. What a joke! It's the players my friend, specifically the offensive line and the quarterback. I have no loyalty or "passion" for Chan Gailey.

 

In fact, here we go

 

"IT WASN"T DICK JUARON'S FAULT THE BILLS SUCKED LAST YEAR!"

 

They sucked before DJ and CG. They have sucked mainly because they can't find a high quality quarterback and some average offensive lineman.

 

If DJ was the coach of the Colts they would still win 10 games every year.

Edited September 20, 2010 by ThrowIt

[Benjamin Barker]

I like when he said they had several deep passes called, and they just didn't get thrown for whatever reason.

[thewildrabbit]

I kind of got the same sense. Second week in a row where Edwards throws/runs short of the stick on 4th and game. Just shows you what type of mentality our singal caller has. Refuses to throw the ball downfield unless soemone is WIDE OPEN. I saw Rodgers throw to plenty of well covered receivers today, and low and behold many of them were complete. As a Bills fan I forgot such things were possible. It's like you're watching another sport when the Bills offense takes the field. The ineptitude is scary, and I put 75% of the blame on the guy who touches the ball every single snap. He's the worst player on our team, does anyone disagree?

 

I disagree. the worst player on this Bills team by far is Cornell Green, who is making 3 million and way more then Edwards. he was brought in to be an upgrade and clearly he is anything but.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

After watching Gailey's presser I think it's pretty evident he now fully understands how bad Trent Edwards is. He mentions several times that they are still assessing "who they are" and that they will make the necessary changes to improve. How could you not pull the chord on Edwards? Yes, he is not surrounded with a lot of talent, but he is so bad, that it is embarrassing.

 

I'm still willing to give Gailey and Nix a chance. I think they have a chance to right the ship with a full 3 year commitment, but they need to find a QB with some confidence and stones. Gailey's biggest mistake to this point was underestimating how pitiful of a QB Edwards is. He's the type of guy who looks serviceable May-August, but come September he turns into a highschool QB out there.

 

If Edwards stinks the joint up @ New England look for Gailey and Nix to pull the plug on him and go with Brohm/Fitzpatrick.

 

One other concern I have with the Gailey/Nix combo is their sudden change of opinion regarding CJ Spiller. Guy looked lights out all preseason, and then he has a poor game in the home opener. Now all of the sudden he's not the starter? It seems like a knee jerk reaction and indicates a team that is already in full panic mode. It doesn't make sense to take a guy so high, annoint him starter and then put him on the pine after one poor showing. It's only going to hurt Spiller's confidence in the long run.

 

Yeah he knows Trent stinks, CJ will be fine he's a running back and when the game slows down for him he will be in there. Plus with all the talk of trading Lynch he needed to get some carries to be more marketable.

[mpl6876]

It's not the game plan. What a joke! It's the players my friend, specifically the offensive line and the quarterback. I have no loyalty or "passion" for Chan Gailey.

 

In fact, here we go

 

"IT WASN"T DICK JUARON'S FAULT THE BILLS SUCKED LAST YEAR!"

 

They sucked before DJ and CG. They have sucked mainly because they can't find a high quality quarterback and some average offensive lineman.

 

If DJ was the coach of the Colts they would still win 10 games every year.

 

I agree with the premise of your post. A coach needs talented players in key positions to win. Posters have responded to this by telling me how important the coaching position is. Their position is valid as well because coaching does make a difference. In the end, a successful team needs talented players and good coaching. After two games, the Bills seem to possess niether.

[garbag3man]

Actually, I predicted Packers 41 Bills 17. I am a realist and I expected very little from this team. My main point which you may have missed is that people here weren't objective and they slammed so many posters who were. I am wondering where those posters went?

 

What is improvement to you? I thought we upgraded the coaching position but thus far I have seen nothing that indicates this to be true.

 

Oh, by the way, I am very relaxed.

 

Well good work, you really showed those stupid optimistic Bills fans.

[mpl6876]

Well good work, you really showed those stupid optimistic Bills fans.

 

You got that right. I assume you were one of them.

Edited September 20, 2010 by mpl6876