Can Paladino help the Bills

[bkc]

If politicians have anything to do with saving the Bills if will come from downstate. I live in North Jersey and we get nyc media. Every time someone from downstate runs for office the talk is how are they going to win upstate support. Keeping the bill in buffalo is a cheap and easy way to gain supportr. My guess is chuckie Shumer will be your best friend on this .

 

 

[K Gun Special]

If politicians have anything to do with saving the Bills if will come from downstate. I live in North Jersey and we get nyc media. Every time someone from downstate runs for office the talk is how are they going to win upstate support. Keeping the bill in buffalo is a cheap and easy way to gain supportr. My guess is chuckie Shumer will be your best friend on this .

 

They are the only NFL team in New York State.

[yungmack]

Not the way you're thinking. And, I presume you're thinking public money (welfare) to do something with the stadium. That ain't gonna fly with him. He campaigned on cutting spending by 20% and cutting taxes by 10%. Let the Bills build their own stadium if they want a new one. A super Walmart brings in more coin to the area than they do. Paladino probably won't even carry the vote in Buffalo in the govenor's race, If Buffalo's history holds true to form. In the past 60 years they've elected a democratic mayor all but 12 years. 1965 was the last time that Buffalo had a mayor other than a democrat... sort of coinciding with the Bills downturn. I ask the Buffalo community, how's theat worked out for you?

 

The best thing Paladino will do for New York... and Buffalo is take these bastards in Albany to task... stop spending, make NY business friendly... give businesses a reason to move here, and kick the crap out of public unions that suck the money out of the working class. That will bring jobs and prosperity back to NY. But, of course, Barnum said it best. "There's a sucker born every minute". Translation... NY will elect Andrew (Mario Jr.) "Status" Cuomo.

Would Palladino even be interested in the Bills? If RW were to die this year, and if his family put the team up for sale, it would probably cost close to a billion to buy them. And the NFL insists on teams being owned by individuals (yes, I know there can be fractional owners, but they don't have power over the team. Would you invest in that kind of situation?). Don't know if Palladino has that kind of money, or, if he does, would he want to put it into one basket.

 

BTW, as to your naive political thinking, the governor is not a dictator and therefore cannot impose his reforms on the legislature. The Dems will for sure check him at every turn and so will the GOP whose poobahs tend to be downstaters who won't want an "outsider" to succeed and threaten their control. And as to mayor of Buffalo, what party did Jimmy Griffin belong to?

 

One other thing: Palladino is a bigtime anti-government guy, yet his entire fortune is based on getting government contracts (and taxpayer money). Sounds like a typical Republicker hypocrite.

Edited September 15, 2010 by yungmack

[Albany,n.y.]

Paladino can keep all his $, some that he's going to blow running for Governor and build a new stadium downtown. That's the only way Paladino can help the Bills.

[ieatcrayonz]

If sending racist emails and emails containing bestiality and then acknowledging it and basically saying, "Why, what's so wrong with that?" helps the Bills, then Paladino can definitely help the Bills.

The Big Cat is Paladino?

[Dr. Trooth]

 

 

BTW, as to your naive political thinking, the governor is not a dictator and therefore cannot impose his reforms on the legislature. The Dems will for sure check him at every turn and so will the GOP whose poobahs tend to be downstaters who won't want an "outsider" to succeed and threaten their control. And as to mayor of Buffalo, what party did Jimmy Griffin belong to?

 

One other thing: Palladino is a bigtime anti-government guy, yet his entire fortune is based on getting government contracts (and taxpayer money). Sounds like a typical Republicker hypocrite.

 

First off.. Griffin was a Dem.

Second... At least Paladino got his $$$ through legal state contracts. Hypocrite republikers? Nah... Libs aren't... Monserate, Espada, Rangle, Massa... can you say liberal tax sucking thieves?

Third... see New Jersey and Gov. Christie. Paladino can do a lot. He can make the legislators lives miserable. He can call out specific names and throw em under the bus, regarless of their political orientation (most have no testicles). If he wants to ram legislation through that they can't get the legislature to pass, he can go through the referendum process and let the public do it. That will certainly end a lot of legislative careers. He can call special sessions at any time, withhold their pay (see Paterson). He could probably call a state of emergency if the fiscal crisis warranted. Hell... he's even said he ain't gonna recognize Shelly Silver as Speaker of the Assembly. That's gonna force the spineless liberal tax suckers to stand up to Silver... we'll see if they have as much a spine as Mike Bragman had a few years ago. I doubt it... the party leaders outside the legislature will probably offer Silver some tax sucking sweet deal to step aside.

Edited September 15, 2010 by Dr. Trooth

[sleaky72]

Anyone who voted for Pornadino the pig is just as clueless and pathetic as that Sorry P.O.S!!!

 

Here we have an egomaniac who contributed to democratic leaders, made a ton of money off of the public's money, embarassed his wife by having a child with a staffer, and now wants to clean Albany!!

 

The party of Lincoln has become an absolute joke.

 

First it was Palin, then it was the Tea party kooks, and now every lunatic-fringe scumbag out of the woodwork has the effrontery to run for office.

 

I give up, I might actually become a democrat and give that a try.

 

The GOP has lost me

[Campy]

Not the way you're thinking. And, I presume you're thinking public money (welfare) to do something with the stadium. That ain't gonna fly with him. He campaigned on cutting spending by 20% and cutting taxes by 10%. Let the Bills build their own stadium if they want a new one. A super Walmart brings in more coin to the area than they do. Paladino probably won't even carry the vote in Buffalo in the govenor's race, If Buffalo's history holds true to form. In the past 60 years they've elected a democratic mayor all but 12 years. 1965 was the last time that Buffalo had a mayor other than a democrat... sort of coinciding with the Bills downturn. I ask the Buffalo community, how's theat worked out for you?

 

The best thing Paladino will do for New York... and Buffalo is take these bastards in Albany to task... stop spending, make NY business friendly... give businesses a reason to move here, and kick the crap out of public unions that suck the money out of the working class. That will bring jobs and prosperity back to NY. But, of course, Barnum said it best. "There's a sucker born every minute". Translation... NY will elect Andrew (Mario Jr.) "Status" Cuomo.

 

Wow, you hit all the red meat issues, that's for sure. I know unions are popular targets for the pro-corporation types and fascists, but do $35/month dues really qualify as sucking money out of the working class? Besides, they'd be be paying more than the amount of their dues for healthcare if not for collective bargaining...

 

Sorry, didn't mean to piss all over your talking points. You may continue...

Edited September 15, 2010 by Campy

[The Senator]

First off.. Griffin was a Dem.

Hard to say exactly what Jimmy was, but Mayor Griffin was definitely not a Democrat.

 

Jimmy Griffin won the Buffalo mayoral election on 1977 on the Conservative line, defeating the Joe Crangle-controlled Democratic party machine and its endorsed candidate Arthur O. Eve. In 1981 there were no declared mayoral candidates and Griffin ran for re-election unopposed, endorsed by the Conservative and the Right-to-Life parties. Erie County Democratic Chairman Crangle endorsed Common Council President George K. Arthur in 1985 - Griffin received the Republican endorsement. After Griffin's victory Crangle said the election established once and for all that Jimmy Griffin was a Republican, and Griffin himself stopped by Republican election campaign headquarters on election night to address the party faithful, stating, "It's been a long time since you had a Republican who won as Mayor of the City of Buffalo!"

 

As the incumbent mayor running for a record 4th term, Jimmy finally threw his name into the the Democratic primary 'process' for his last mayoral campaign in 1989, probably just to 'rub Crangle's nose in it'. William Hoyt had already been chosen as the Democratic-party endorsed candidate, but ended up placing a distant 3rd to Griffin and former city judge Wibur Trammell, who resigned from the bench to make a run for mayor. So finally, for his last mayoral victory, Griffin's named appeared on the ballot on the Republican, Conservative, Right-to-Life, and - yes - Democratic party lines.

 

 

Hardly a 'Dem', Griffin occasionally accepted the endorsement of the Democratic party when it was given, and even ran for various offices as a Democrat when it was politically expedient to do so, but he was most definitely an independent whose rise in politics was achieved by consistently challenging incumbent Democrats. Every office he attained, he did so by running as an independent or on 3rd-party tickets against Democratic party-endorsed candidates, and he often endorsed Republican candidates. In his own words, discussing his 5 terms in the NY State Senate, Griffin stated...

 

 

"I was an independent - or an a**hole, depending on your point of view. I really got along better with the Republicans than the Democrats.")

 

 

RIP Jimmy - we miss you. (Damn nice ball park!)

 

 

(And now that we've established that Jimmy was much more a Republican than Democrat, I'd like to point out that he presided over 4 consecutive Buffalo Bills Superbowl seasons! )

Edited September 15, 2010 by The Senator

[Dr. Trooth]

(And now that we've established that Jimmy was much more a Republican than Democrat, I'd like to point out that he presided over 4 consecutive Buffalo Bills Superbowl seasons! )

 

I stand corrected. that makes it Dems ruled Buffalo for 16 of the past 60 years, not 12. Jimmy may have been the most entertaining.

[coldstorage5]

If politicians have anything to do with saving the Bills if will come from downstate. I live in North Jersey and we get nyc media. Every time someone from downstate runs for office the talk is how are they going to win upstate support. Keeping the bill in buffalo is a cheap and easy way to gain supportr. My guess is chuckie Shumer will be your best friend on this .

 

I agree, being a downstater. Ive felt for yrs, NY's Senators wont let the only NY NFL teams leave.

[The Senator]

I stand corrected. that makes it Dems ruled Buffalo for 16 of the past 60 years, not 12. Jimmy may have been the most entertaining.

No question about it...

 

The 56th and longest-serving Buffalo mayor, James D. Griffin was as familiar a figure as the city has ever known. Griffin was elected to four terms as mayor and was given credit for a resurgence in downtown Buffalo and its waterfront, especially in the early years of his administration. Buffalo’s Griffin era began Jan. 1, 1978.

 

“The city was $19 million in debt; the waterfront a wilderness; downtown deserted; neighborhoods were deteriorating and residents were leaving; and business and industry had no confidence in our city,” Griffin later recalled. For 16 years, love him or not, Griffin gave all his efforts to Buffalo — eradicating the debt and seeing the Buffalo Hilton (now the Adam’s Mark), townhouses and office buildings, including a new headquarters for Western New York Public Broadcasting, spring up by the waterfront.

 

Downtown and the Theater District got the Hyatt Regency, an eight-screen General Cinema in the Market Arcade, TGI Friday’s and a Rotary Ice Rink — not to mention three bank office buildings at Fountain Plaza. Shea’s Buffalo was restored. Hoyt Lake in Delaware Park was cleaned up. New parking ramps and walkways were built, as were the HSBC Bank Atrium, City Center and the Elm-Oak high-tech corridor. A new City Mission and Cornerstone Manor were built. But the crowning glory was undoubtedly Pilot Field, now Dunn Tire Park. Griffin not only rallied community leaders to bring professional baseball back to Buffalo in 1979, but he spearheaded construction of downtown’s baseball stadium, one of the finest in the nation. At the Bisons’ season finale in 1993, the baseball club and its owners, the Rich family, presented Griffin a crystal buffalo in appreciation for his continuing support.

 

“This job is a great job,” Griffin said earlier that year — when he decided not to seek a fifth term after polls reported he would lose badly. “We are able to help people. We help build homes, create jobs in the private sector, fill jobs, both permanent and seasonal, in city government, and also provide summer work for thousands of kids so they can earn money for school and clothes and have a few bucks for some fun times.”

 

(Link - Forgotten Buffalo)

 

 

For 16 years, between the Sedita/Makowski debacle that ushered in the demise and destruction of downtown Buffalo, and the Masiello era of aimless ineptitude, Jimmy gave his heart and soul to reviving and growing the city he loved.

Edited September 16, 2010 by The Senator

[WVUFootball29]

Unless Carl can play OT, I don't think he'll be much help to the Bills this year

[Andre Speed]

Banker David Hannum not Pt Barnum said The sucker quote.

my friend... i'm afraid you know TOOOO MUCH !

~AS

[wardigital]

Not the way you're thinking. And, I presume you're thinking public money (welfare) to do something with the stadium. That ain't gonna fly with him. He campaigned on cutting spending by 20% and cutting taxes by 10%. Let the Bills build their own stadium if they want a new one. A super Walmart brings in more coin to the area than they do. Paladino probably won't even carry the vote in Buffalo in the govenor's race, If Buffalo's history holds true to form. In the past 60 years they've elected a democratic mayor all but 12 years. 1965 was the last time that Buffalo had a mayor other than a democrat... sort of coinciding with the Bills downturn. I ask the Buffalo community, how's theat worked out for you?

 

The best thing Paladino will do for New York... and Buffalo is take these bastards in Albany to task... stop spending, make NY business friendly... give businesses a reason to move here, and kick the crap out of public unions that suck the money out of the working class. That will bring jobs and prosperity back to NY. But, of course, Barnum said it best. "There's a sucker born every minute". Translation... NY will elect Andrew (Mario Jr.) "Status" Cuomo.

 

Are you using the phrase "welfare" because you think that it has a negative connotation associated with it?

[Spiderweb]

Not the way you're thinking. And, I presume you're thinking public money (welfare) to do something with the stadium. That ain't gonna fly with him. He campaigned on cutting spending by 20% and cutting taxes by 10%. Let the Bills build their own stadium if they want a new one. A super Walmart brings in more coin to the area than they do. Paladino probably won't even carry the vote in Buffalo in the govenor's race, If Buffalo's history holds true to form. In the past 60 years they've elected a democratic mayor all but 12 years. 1965 was the last time that Buffalo had a mayor other than a democrat... sort of coinciding with the Bills downturn. I ask the Buffalo community, how's theat worked out for you?

 

The best thing Paladino will do for New York... and Buffalo is take these bastards in Albany to task... stop spending, make NY business friendly... give businesses a reason to move here, and kick the crap out of public unions that suck the money out of the working class. That will bring jobs and prosperity back to NY. But, of course, Barnum said it best. "There's a sucker born every minute". Translation... NY will elect Andrew (Mario Jr.) "Status" Cuomo.

 

I believe you may wish to step back and consider how long Rockefeller ran NY. The wheels had fallen off NY long before Mario (Andrew's father) was Governor of NY. Democrat or Republican alike have taken down NY. There's no single party that can deny culpability.

[Jim in Anchorage]

I believe you may wish to step back and consider how long Rockefeller ran NY. The wheels had fallen off NY long before Mario (Andrew's father) was Governor of NY. Democrat or Republican alike have taken down NY. There's no single party that can deny culpability.

Rockefeller was the original RINO. Big time.

[Hplarrm]

Would Palladino even be interested in the Bills? If RW were to die this year, and if his family put the team up for sale, it would probably cost close to a billion to buy them. And the NFL insists on teams being owned by individuals (yes, I know there can be fractional owners, but they don't have power over the team. Would you invest in that kind of situation?). Don't know if Palladino has that kind of money, or, if he does, would he want to put it into one basket.

 

BTW, as to your naive political thinking, the governor is not a dictator and therefore cannot impose his reforms on the legislature. The Dems will for sure check him at every turn and so will the GOP whose poobahs tend to be downstaters who won't want an "outsider" to succeed and threaten their control. And as to mayor of Buffalo, what party did Jimmy Griffin belong to?

 

One other thing: Palladino is a bigtime anti-government guy, yet his entire fortune is based on getting government contracts (and taxpayer money). Sounds like a typical Republicker hypocrite.

 

In order to own an NFL franchise the new potential owner or owner group MUST win the approval of 75% of the current owners. This is what got Limbaugh killed as a potential owner as the NFL's majority partner, the players (under the current CBA the playwes get 60.5% of the total gross receipts (a number basically dictated by NFLPA head Gene Upshaw who said the final deal must start with a 6).

 

Between Paladino forwarding a photoshopped picture of Obama as a pimp and his association with other bad business concepts like beastiality it is merely a question of whether the union uses it influence to nip Paladino ownership in the bud or current owners do.

 

Just as folks who assume that the Bills will be sold to the highest bidder regardless of his impact on the business model are wrong, the idea of Paladino owning the Bills will simply not happen no matter how much money he has taken from taxpayers.

[bmur66]

All this Republican/Democrat talk makes me want to puke. People that talk about politics like it is some type of game also have the same affect. How about just electing someone that has the right qualifications and experience to do the job?

[Hplarrm]

All this Republican/Democrat talk makes me want to puke. People that talk about politics like it is some type of game also have the same affect. How about just electing someone that has the right qualifications and experience to do the job?

 

It is not surprising that on a sports bulletin board that folks would talk about the game aspects of this competitive endeavor.

 

The thing which is problematic to me is that CNN, Fox, and MSNBC seem to go to the easy default of reporting on this as a game rather than doing the in-depth hard journalistic work of reporting which has traditionally been the role of the 4th estate.

 

Even wore troubling is when the supposedly objective media (all human beings have a bias but a good reporter or journalist recognizes that and tries to do work which fights against the natural human tendency). Fox giving a cool million to one of the political operative groups. Treating this as a sport is sloppy. Picking a "team" to root for is not good reporting or journalism.

 

Marketing yourself as fair and balanced when you overtly have picked a team is simply insulting.