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am I the only person who would have preferred Justin Hartwick to Ubrik?? Hartwick fills a need as a back up center (as much as we all like wood or levitre there, its just another hole to fill) and back in the day Hangartner was solid at filling in at guard. I just think that maybe we took the wrong guy form the steelers, but no one should know better than Whaley - he is the guy who brought Hartwick there in the first place.

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Hartwick is too small to handle the NT in this division.

 

 

So he can't handle Jenkins or Wilfork but he could handle Ngata just fine? i don't agree with that, not to mention he's actually bigger then Hangartner...

 

hatrwig 6'5 312

 

hangartner 6'5 301 (but a high motor player....)

 

 

 

also to the prior post - I acknowledged wood is our backup center - the point is, if he needs to shift over then we are now weaker at RG. ultimately, Hartwig is a starter (or has been) while Urbrik has been inactive. One of htem is the better player, i susppose finances might be a reason we went the cheapr route, as Hartwig is also young. but it would make sense to get the better player so as to not create another position of need by shifting wood un-necessarily. it's probably just that Hartwig wants to start and we wouldn't offer him starter money to be a backup...

 

Backup center is filled by Wood. Whaley likely brought Urbik there as well.

 

whaley was pro-personnel - he wasn't a college guy (though he had some influence on that). it's known he brought in hartwig, but i suppose there's reasons he doesnt want him too.

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To be accurate Hangartner is really in the 315-320 lb range and Ngata plays RE for the Ravens not NT.

 

 

I stand corrected wyatt - you're an oak.

 

well i find it funny that everywhere i look hangartner is listed as around 300.... either way hartwig held up just find against 3-4 centers.

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It doesn't really matter Hangartner and Hartwick are both only guys you can just get by with and the Steelers have been trying to upgrade the position for a while and now landed Pouncey (who will probably be very good) so they let Hartwick go. Remember, the Steelers O-line has arguably been worse than ours the last couple of years. As for Hangartner he said himself he played his last season with the panthers at 315 but wanted to play here at around 320. He beats Melvin Fowler at least! :w00t:

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am I the only person who would have preferred Justin Hartwick to Ubrik?? Hartwick fills a need as a back up center (as much as we all like wood or levitre there, its just another hole to fill) and back in the day Hangartner was solid at filling in at guard. I just think that maybe we took the wrong guy form the steelers, but no one should know better than Whaley - he is the guy who brought Hartwick there in the first place.

 

Of course you're not the only one who would have preferred Justin Hartwick to Urbik! Hartwick was the Steeler's starting center. But because of that fact, he would have cost Ralph more money, so of course, despite how desperately we could have used his experience and upgrade along our stupidly inexperienced line, Nix added yet more stupid inexperience instead.

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