Peace Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 Janis Joplin made she had a decent track here or there (written by someone else I think), but would you really want to suffer thru an entire album or concert of hers? In that case, does she deserve legendary status? Janis has some amazing pipes. Really. Not many people could do what she did.
Rico Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 Jefferson Airplane. Some think they were THE great live band to come out of the SF scene... I've heard shows from the 60's, and just don't get it, the vocals in particular annoy me. The Dead just crush them, & Hot Tuna ended up being soooooo much better IMO.
Chef Jim Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 Jefferson Airplane. Some think they were THE great live band to come out of the SF scene... I've heard shows from the 60's, and just don't get it, the vocals in particular annoy me. The Dead just crush them, & Hot Tuna ended up being soooooo much better IMO. I don't think there are really that many people that would say the Airplane would outperform the Dead live. Regardless the 60's music scene in SF must have been amazing. I've hired a couple of old timers here that were part of it. The stories they tell make me really wish I was older and from here. I could imagine going to see bands like The Dead, Airplane, Santana, Moby Grape while in high school. I was stuck with rooster Robin, Julius, Talas, Buffalo Road Show, Duke Jupiter of the 70's.
truth on hold Posted September 15, 2010 Author Posted September 15, 2010 I don't think there are really that many people that would say the Airplane would outperform the Dead live. Regardless the 60's music scene in SF must have been amazing. I've hired a couple of old timers here that were part of it. The stories they tell make me really wish I was older and from here. I could imagine going to see bands like The Dead, Airplane, Santana, Moby Grape while in high school. I was stuck with rooster Robin, Julius, Talas, Buffalo Road Show, Duke Jupiter of the 70's. Speaking of which, sometimes I think Carlos is over rated too. A lot of his solos and music sounds the same, and it can be fairly dull.
Chef Jim Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) Speaking of which, sometimes I think Carlos is over rated too. A lot of his solos and music sounds the same, and it can be fairly dull. I'm really trying not to get into a musica pissing match but this is about the most over rated band. Santana as a band was not over rated. And I don't really think Carlos is/was as a guitar player. One of the best live acts in the 60's. Probably the best performance at Woodstock. I heard an interview with Carlos and he said he dropped acid right before the performance and wished he never had. He said during his solo in Soul Sacrifice the guitar neck felt like it was made of rubber. Edited September 15, 2010 by Chef Jim
bbb Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 Jefferson Airplane. Some think they were THE great live band to come out of the SF scene... I've heard shows from the 60's, and just don't get it, the vocals in particular annoy me. The Dead just crush them, & Hot Tuna ended up being soooooo much better IMO. The strangest concert I ever went to was Jefferson Starship (or maybe just Starship at that point) at the Erie Co. Fair in 1988......When it started, it was daylight and everybody was sitting in their seats and it was like it was a 5th grade recital. Then, when it got dark, and I guess everybody got tanked, it was like it was The Beatles at Shea Stadium. I started out with front row seats and now there was a ton of people between my seats and the stage and it was just crazy. Sometimes I wonder if that really happened.
Chef Jim Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 The strangest concert I ever went to was Jefferson Starship (or maybe just Starship at that point) at the Erie Co. Fair in 1988......When it started, it was daylight and everybody was sitting in their seats and it was like it was a 5th grade recital. Then, when it got dark, and I guess everybody got tanked, it was like it was The Beatles at Shea Stadium. I started out with front row seats and now there was a ton of people between my seats and the stage and it was just crazy. Sometimes I wonder if that really happened. Stay.....away.....from.....the....brown.....acid.
Simon Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 In his defense, if you've even heard of a band with an athlete in it, then they are immediately overrated.
tennesseeboy Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 I liked 10,000 Maniacs but they didn't really stay together all that long. Spyro Gyra (saw them recently) are really outstanding and still putting out good original stuff.
rockpile Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 I know..I had to put band in quotes for that reason. Still I think that they fooled a lot of kids who thought they were a real band and went to their concerts. From the interviews of those who gave interviews (Mickey Dolenz and the short guy) they didn't even take the band idea seriously. I think the other two were happy because they never even got a chance to show whatever creativity they actually had. I don't know whether either of them had any cuz I never heard from them afte the monkees. The short guy was Davy Jones, the other two were Mike Nesmith and Peter Tork. ;-) Nesmith was a musican before and after the Monkees, although not "famous". A few years ago. Peter Tork played at a free concert in Ocean City, MD in a band called the Shoe Suede Blues. They were BAD, especially on a pseudo blues version of Last Train to Clarkesville! LOL
rockpile Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Janis Joplin made she had a decent track here or there (written by someone else I think), but would you really want to suffer thru an entire album or concert of hers? In that case, does she deserve legendary status? I have a few albums of Big Brother and the Holding Company (featuring Janis Joplin) that are incredible. Pearl was the album featuring "Mercedes Benz" with the Full Tilt Boogie. That album also covered "Half Moon" by John Hall of Orleans. I would have loved to see/hear her perform.
bbb Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 I have a few albums of Big Brother and the Holding Company (featuring Janis Joplin) that are incredible. Pearl was the album featuring "Mercedes Benz" with the Full Tilt Boogie. That album also covered "Half Moon" by John Hall of Orleans. I would have loved to see/hear her perform. Wow, interesting life John Hall has led: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hall_%28U.S._politician%29
rockpile Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Well, maybe after Thick as a Brick. But before then? Wow. IMO Tull peaked with Aqualung, but This Was Jetro Tull, Stand Up, and a few cuts from Benefit were brilliant. Starting with Thick as a Brick, it was really Ian Anderson, not Jethro Tull anymore. Wow, interesting life John Hall has led: http://en.wikipedia....._politician%29 He did some fantastic work with Taj Mahal.
The Dean Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 The short guy was Davy Jones, the other two were Mike Nesmith and Peter Tork. ;-) Nesmith was a musican before and after the Monkees, although not "famous". A few years ago. Peter Tork played at a free concert in Ocean City, MD in a band called the Shoe Suede Blues. They were BAD, especially on a pseudo blues version of Last Train to Clarkesville! LOL Nesmith and Tork were both musicians before The Monkees. Tork was a multi-instrumentalist and friend of Stephen Stills, I believe. Nesmith of course, turned out to be pretty talented on many different fronts. Neither Dolenz nor Davey Jones were musicians before the Monkees. But supposedly Jones could play drums a bit (he didn't play for The Monkees) and Dolenz had a pretty good voice. I think of Davey Jones as basically the same as Justin Beiber (however you spell it). Not a musician, but made famous because he looked good and had an acceptable voice. The girls love him, or so they say.
GG Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 10 pages and I don't think anyone has mentioned The Police. This one I agree with, wholeheartedly. To tie two bands together, but can't help but think that Prince of the Punks was written about Gordon Sumner
truth on hold Posted September 17, 2010 Author Posted September 17, 2010 Van Halen with Sammy Hagar was HIGHLY over rated.
The Dean Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 10 pages and I don't think anyone has mentioned The Police. Or Talking Heads. (Here it comes...) Van Halen with Sammy Hagar was HIGHLY over rated. Just as they were with Ms. Roth on vocals.
Chef Jim Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 The short guy was Davy Jones, the other two were Mike Nesmith and Peter Tork. ;-) Nesmith was a musican before and after the Monkees, although not "famous". A few years ago. Peter Tork played at a free concert in Ocean City, MD in a band called the Shoe Suede Blues. They were BAD, especially on a pseudo blues version of Last Train to Clarkesville! LOL Just a bit of trivia here. Mike Nesmith's mother invented liquid paper.
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