ExiledInIllinois Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 Put it this way... Who cares what is overrated, underrated or whatever... It is all in the ears of the beholder... With that, listen to what you want and block everything else out.
Wooderson Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 This. Also, as to the rest of the catalog, listen to "Pawn Shop," "40 oz. to Freedom," "Waiting For My Ruca," and "Same In The End" (probably one of my top 3 Sublime songs). I LOVEEEEE Waiting for my Ruca. Such a chill song with a great bass line. Sublime was a great band, but their live performances were less than stellar. Many clips I've seen they're too drunk and !@#$ed up to even play anything correctly.
UB2SF Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 This thread is totally fascinating to me. Kudos to the OP for such a polarizing topic! Without trying to rehash anything mentioned thus far, I will add... Green Day
Rico Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 R.E.M. is over rated too. A couple of pop hits that were slightly above the norm, but nonetheless uninspiring, and overall weak albums. And what's with Stipe's attitude? He's like "I'm gay and bitter, but I won't confirm I'm gay, just the bitter." It's like who really cares anyway? Get over it already, you're the one with the issue. They were ridiculously overrated back in the day, but no one cares about them anymore, so I would say currently they are just about right.
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 They were ridiculously overrated back in the day, but no one cares about them anymore, so I would say currently they are just about right. I wouldn't say nobody cares about them anymore - they can still sell out the Garden and they still put on a great show. The comment about Stipe's being gay is a little off the mark; he came out a while ago. A little self-righteous sometimes - sure, but being a frontman like that sort of forces your hand. Perhaps their early catalog is a bit overrated, but I think they tried things that a lot of bands weren't doing before them, and wedded a lot of influences together that set the tone for a whole genre of music. Being in part responsible for that, and shepherding and supporting a lot of good bands as they did, won them a lot of praise. It's also comforting to see a band that was not, at least in a working arrangement, about individual egos. They shared their publishing rights equally, and their writing is really a partnership of all members. More underrated: Replacements, and in that lineage, Big Star. Mission of Burma.
Cugalabanza Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 I will add... Green Day I'm with ya on that one! And their inexplicable success spawned a whole genre full of soulless, bright-sounding pseudo-punk.
Chef Jim Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 I'm with ya on that one! And their inexplicable success spawned a whole genre full of soulless, bright-sounding pseudo-punk. I wouldn't even give them that much credit. And BTW I revisited Sublime for the first time in a long time.....crap.
Indy Dave Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 This thread is totally fascinating to me. Kudos to the OP for such a polarizing topic! Without trying to rehash anything mentioned thus far, I will add... Green Day Like a couple of others have suggested, to each his/her own. But I'm really surprised it took 13 pages for Green Day to get mentioned. Not a fan. At all. I am glad to say that my favorite band hasn't been mentioned.
The Dean Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 (edited) Like a couple of others have suggested, to each his/her own. But I'm really surprised it took 13 pages for Green Day to get mentioned. Me too (except it's only 7 pages the way I have the board configured). As for Sublime, they really suck, but are they overrated? I think most know they suck. Edited September 10, 2010 by The Dean
Chef Jim Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Like a couple of others have suggested, to each his/her own. But I'm really surprised it took 13 pages for Green Day to get mentioned. Not a fan. At all. I am glad to say that my favorite band hasn't been mentioned. Are you sure no one mentioned The Dave Clark Five?
Indy Dave Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Are you sure no one mentioned The Dave Clark Five? I was actually referring to Wham.
Indy Dave Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Wouldn't you know it? The Saints score a quick TD and a Green Day song plays as they go to commercial. Granted it was the "Saints" song. Guess that beats Careless Whisper.
bbb Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 great track, original guitar work from Carlton was amazing. they really brought out the best in him. i like how an aging Becker and Fagan are becoming more like the characters they sing about ... LOL. also, dont see how SD gets mentioned in most over rated ... for starters, although they had some big hits they were still a niche band in a lot ways, and never had the "we're not worthy" status of a U2. given their musicianship versus a U2, if anything they're more worthy of a "most under rated" title. In the late 70s, SD were huge, and not a niche band. That song FM was on alllll the friggin time and so was most of Aja. Another one overrated to me is Peter Gabriel. Some of the music is OK, but his vocals are pretty weak, all the songs sound the same to me as a result zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Throw in all the clown outfits, and I've never been impressed. I'll see your Peter Gabriel and raise you Phil Collins. I don't think he's been mentioned and I can't tell you how over-rated I think he is. There are some of his album cuts that I really like, but I think Against All Odds may be his only hit that I don't loath.
justnzane Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Sublime??? You're talking about one of the greatest three man acts of all time. Go listen to that solo from Santaria again and tell me they're overrated. again, outside of their hits, their catalog is freakin awful. Santeria is a great song, but they whiffed more than they took a hit... er made a hit. There is no reason that people are so religious about them to the point, the I'd rather talk to a Marley fanatic over a Sumblime fanatic.
bbb Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 You mistook my "King of the Power Ballad" to be a jibe. I could listen to a Seger's greatest hits with a smile on my face for 2 hours. He has a no BS sincerity that either turns you off for it's lack of subtlety or you just enjoy for its honesty (like a good country song). Yeah, I believe you replied to Joe, the anti-Seger guy, and when I think of power ballads I think of super sappy horrible songs from 80s metal bands. Joe, with another comment he made, made it clear he is too young to appreciate this - but I don't think you will find many, if any, people who saw Seger say '76-80 who would say he was over-rated.........You're right - no BS - sincerity and honesty all the way.
Just Jack Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 I'll see your Peter Gabriel and raise you Phil Collins. I don't think he's been mentioned and I can't tell you how over-rated I think he is. I mentioned Phil earlier, I combined him with Genesis.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 More underrated: Replacements, and in that lineage, Big Star. Mission of Burma. You want under-rated? I'll give you under-rated: The Velvet Underground and The Kinks.
tennesseeboy Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 This goes back a ways but I have to say the Monkees. They were an artificial band to start with but were manufactured into something with songs others wrote for them and careful advertising and the tv show. I don't think ANY other "band" comes close.
The Dean Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 This goes back a ways but I have to say the Monkees. They were an artificial band to start with but were manufactured into something with songs others wrote for them and careful advertising and the tv show. I don't think ANY other "band" comes close. But were they overrated? They had a TV show, so they were overexposed. But i think most everyone new they were a fake band. Didn't they?
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