Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Bushehr reactor to be live by end of month. Lovely.
/dev/null Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 So is anyone keeping an eye on Israel's Air Force
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 16, 2010 Author Posted August 16, 2010 So is anyone keeping an eye on Israel's Air Force Not sure what they're waiting for. Probably for Barry O to **** or get off the pot would be my guess.
LeviF Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 So is anyone keeping an eye on Israel's Air Force They just purchased some F-35's, I think.
DC Tom Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 They just purchased some F-35's, I think. "Signed an intent to purchase" at best. The plane's not even close to operational yet.
erynthered Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Bolton says three days left......................
pBills Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Everything would go crazy in the world if Israel attacks.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 17, 2010 Author Posted August 17, 2010 Everything would go crazy in the world if Israel attacks. They don't have a choice. If they take out Bushehr, the Iranians can't begin the fuel cycle. From a cost/benefit perspective, it is THE high-value target, and they have to hit it before the fuel is inside, from what I've read.
LeviF Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Everything would go crazy in the world if Israel attacks. Damned if they do, damned if they don't, in my mind.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 17, 2010 Author Posted August 17, 2010 Damned if they do, damned if they don't, in my mind. And when you (personally) are in one of those situations, do you err on the side of action or inaction?
BB27 Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 And when you (personally) are in one of those situations, do you err on the side of action or inaction? 1. Unfortunately for us, our current president is busy apologizing to Japan for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, so the US has to deal with inaction. 2. The Israelis will not do anything without our backing. They know they would need us if a real war broke out in the middle east and they, like us, are dealing with #1!
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 17, 2010 Author Posted August 17, 2010 1. Unfortunately for us, our current president is busy apologizing to Japan for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, so the US has to deal with inaction. 2. The Israelis will not do anything without our backing. They know they would need us if a real war broke out in the middle east and they, like us, are dealing with #1! They need us as much as they need a hole in the head. They can handle their neighbors. It's the rest of the world they can't handle...the Russias, the Chinas, the Eurotrash.
BB27 Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 They need us as much as they need a hole in the head. They can handle their neighbors. It's the rest of the world they can't handle...the Russias, the Chinas, the Eurotrash. They buy almost all their military equipment from us. They do need us and won't act without us. I wish they would bomb Iran, but I just don't see them putting themselves out there all alone (they would be alone if they did it). No way Obama approves an attack on Iran.
LeviF Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 And when you (personally) are in one of those situations, do you err on the side of action or inaction? Action. I recognize, however, that the situation has become rather unfortunate. They buy almost all their military equipment from us. They do need us and won't act without us. I wish they would bomb Iran, but I just don't see them putting themselves out there all alone (they would be alone if they did it). No way Obama approves an attack on Iran. I don't think they'll be looking for approval first. When they finally make the decision, it'll be far too late to wait for a head nod from Obama.
Rob's House Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Unless Obama openly denounces the Israelis the world will sit on their thumbs like they did when the Israelis took out that Syrian site a few years back. They're not going to do ****. What can they do? They're a bunch of !@#$ing amateurs...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 17, 2010 Author Posted August 17, 2010 Unless Obama openly denounces the Israelis the world will sit on their thumbs like they did when the Israelis took out that Syrian site a few years back. They're not going to do ****. What can they do? They're a bunch of !@#$ing amateurs... Who's "they," Walter? Certainly not the people with three thousand years of glorious culture from Moses to Sandy Koufax...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 17, 2010 Author Posted August 17, 2010 They buy almost all their military equipment from us. They do need us and won't act without us. I wish they would bomb Iran, but I just don't see them putting themselves out there all alone (they would be alone if they did it). No way Obama approves an attack on Iran. This opinion isn't what I'd call historically accurate. They didn't act with our approval in 67. They didn't acti with our approval against Osirak (Hussein was an ally at that time). If they feel threatened, they will do what we don't have the huevos rancheros to do.
BB27 Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Unless Obama openly denounces the Israelis the world will sit on their thumbs like they did when the Israelis took out that Syrian site a few years back. They're not going to do ****. What can they do? They're a bunch of !@#$ing amateurs... Do you really think they didn't get our approval? Come on, we may not have come out publicly and said we approved this, but we knew about it, and turned a blind eye so that it could happen. Israel cannot bomb Iran without our knowing about it, and our willingness to let it happen.
DC Tom Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Do you really think they didn't get our approval? Come on, we may not have come out publicly and said we approved this, but we knew about it, and turned a blind eye so that it could happen. Israel cannot bomb Iran without our knowing about it, and our willingness to let it happen. Israel probably can bomb Syria without our foreknowledge or preapproval. I doubt they did...but I'm sure they could. Iran, however, is a completely different story.
Rob's House Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Who's "they," Walter? Certainly not the people with three thousand years of glorious culture from Moses to Sandy Koufax... By "they" I was referring to the bunch of fig eaters with towels on their heads trying to find reverse on a soviet tank.
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