thewildrabbit Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 You guys seem to have forgotten... This is the same guy who was fired as OC after his offense went 2-14 with the Chiefs, only the Buffalo Bills would promote a guy to head coach who was just fired from his last job while in a lesser position. I realize it was only a preseason game, but it showed the more experienced coaching on both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I was extremely disappointed. That's the most weeney play in football. Line up like you're going to go for it and then call a timeout or let the clock run out and then punt. Be a man and either go for it or not. Don't try to trick the other guys into cheating so you get the first down. Especially when your QB looks scared and it's obvious he's not going to try to run over Albert Haynesworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyHog Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 Gailey didn't waste a timeout - he let the clock run down and took the 5-yard penalty.My main issue was that he didn't take the opportunity to practice a 4th and short situation with the offense... Seriously? Did you watch the game? He didn't take a 5 yard penalty. They burned their last time-out. Look it up! As far as working a 4th. and short situation, I agree. But not in that situation. Never in that situation! Not in regular season and not in preseason. What are you teaching? Stupid decisions are ok? Perfect practice makes perfect! Chan needs to check himself and realize he's a coach, not a savior! Coach football Chan. Just coach football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I totally disagree. I did not like not challenging the TD. Certainly not a touchdown and you never know what the next play may bring. As far as a QB sneak? Not at your own 37 with 7 minutes left in the half. No way! NEVER! Kick, kick and kick again in that situation! Don't burn your last TO at that point. Dumb/stupid decision and I HOPE this year is not coached like that! If so, get ready people....... we are in for a long......long.....long year! I don't think the coaches care too much about challenging plays in the pre season. Even though I agree it was something you would normally challenge. But they don't really care if its the defense, offense, or special teams on the field. They are trying to evaluate players and that's the main focus. I could definitely see the challenge being related to a decision to get the offense back on the field for further evaluation vs. worrying about inches on the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 4th & inches from our own 37 yardline. 7:17 left on the clock in the 2nd Qtr. 1 (one) Timeout left. Buffalo lines up to "draw" the defense offsides. Clock ticks....... timeout! ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???? If we are going to gamble a timeout, why don't we challenge the first touchdown by the Redskins that was CLEARLY not a touchdown??? If the offense does not have possesion of the ball as it crosses the goal-line, then it is not a touchdown. The offense did not have possesion!!!! Instead of challenging an obvious blunder by the officials, we gamble out last timeout to draw the defense offsides with 7 minutes remaining on the clock!!!! WITH OUR LAST TIMEOUT IN THE HALF!!!!!! No coach in his right mind would make that call! Imagine it was the regular season and not pre-season! Now your pissed too! "Obvsiouly you wanna win, anytime you got your uniform on and they got your name up on the scoreboard, you wanna win. You wanna have more points than the other team. But at the same time, you're mostly trying to evaluate personell." - Chan Gailey, Head Coach, Bufalo Bills........... HEY CHAN!!!!!!! YOU'RE BEING EVALUATED TOO!!!!!! (sorry about the spelling, but you get the point) No problem with the lack of a challenge its pre-season no need to slow down a game that doesn't count. Not going for it on 4th and 1ish was a big time let down why would you do that? Its about instilling an aggressive attitude that decision screamed DJ and that I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyHog Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 I don't think the coaches care too much about challenging plays in the pre season. Even though I agree it was something you would normally challenge. But they don't really care if its the defense, offense, or special teams on the field. They are trying to evaluate players and that's the main focus. I could definitely see the challenge being related to a decision to get the offense back on the field for further evaluation vs. worrying about inches on the goal line. Although I agree that the offense had not had enough time to be evaluated, I'm not sure that Chan was sending out the right message to the players and fans by trying to get the offense back on the field at that point. He has to realize that his players are not the only people being evaluated, but he is as well. His play calling will determine what happens in the game and how the fans respond to him as a coach. And to make a "Bone-headed" call like that in the first preseason game as a Buffalo Bills head coach is just plain STUPID! If he doesn't know any better, he obviously shouldn't be a head coach in the NFL. Again, he need to check his ego... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I think he should have challenged that alleged TD. I thought we were going to try to win this thing to build some momentum into the season. He told his players that the game really didn't matter at that point. It would have been overturned and it would have been 4th down. Of course of defense probably still would have stunk anyway, but it's the principle of the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyHog Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 No problem with the lack of a challenge its pre-season no need to slow down a game that doesn't count. Not going for it on 4th and 1ish was a big time let down why would you do that? Its about instilling an aggressive attitude that decision screamed DJ and that I don't like. But they didn't go for it. They didn't instill an aggressive attitude. All they said was that they didn't trust their defense enough, so they had to "gamble" and they didn't trust their offense to make an "inches" play. They tried to "trick" their way into a first down in a terrible situation. It was a dumb call regardless of how they try and spin it. He "over-coached" himself and that is all it is. You don't burn your last TO in a situation like that. That is BUSCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyHog Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 I think he should have challenged that alleged TD. I thought we were going to try to win this thing to build some momentum into the season. He told his players that the game really didn't matter at that point. It would have been overturned and it would have been 4th down. Of course of defense probably still would have stunk anyway, but it's the principle of the thing. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Although I agree that the offense had not had enough time to be evaluated, I'm not sure that Chan was sending out the right message to the players and fans by trying to get the offense back on the field at that point. He has to realize that his players are not the only people being evaluated, but he is as well. His play calling will determine what happens in the game and how the fans respond to him as a coach. And to make a "Bone-headed" call like that in the first preseason game as a Buffalo Bills head coach is just plain STUPID! If he doesn't know any better, he obviously shouldn't be a head coach in the NFL. Again, he need to check his ego... I'm not totally disagreeing with you, but I'm not sure that messages being sent at this point is as important as seeing as many players as you can. Chan isn't being evaluated. Maybe us fans are, but it's not his job to try and impress us (now). It's to evaluate. That's priority one right now. In saying that, challenging that play and having the Redskins either score on the next play or kick the field goal does little for the long term. If this team is fragile enough to get down on a decision like that, we are in serious trouble. Let Chan do his thing man, he's an NFL coach. We aren't. You've got to take things like that with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I think he should have challenged that alleged TD. I thought we were going to try to win this thing to build some momentum into the season. He told his players that the game really didn't matter at that point. It would have been overturned and it would have been 4th down. Of course of defense probably still would have stunk anyway, but it's the principle of the thing. We are a long way from worrying about momentum. If he told is players that the game really didn't matter, he's right, it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyHog Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 I'm not totally disagreeing with you, but I'm not sure that messages being sent at this point is as important as seeing as many players as you can. Chan isn't being evaluated. Maybe us fans are, but it's not his job to try and impress us (now). It's to evaluate. That's priority one right now. In saying that, challenging that play and having the Redskins either score on the next play or kick the field goal does little for the long term. If this team is fragile enough to get down on a decision like that, we are in serious trouble. Let Chan do his thing man, he's an NFL coach. We aren't. You've got to take things like that with a grain of salt. C'mon! Do you really think his "Public-opinion" rating starts in the regular season? Hell no! It started the day he signed on. He has to realize that and to make a bone-head decision like that doesn't set well with me, nor should it with any Bills fan that has endured the last 10 years of bone-headed decisions. I mean, does he realize what the Bills have done the last 10 years? Has he read a book? Does he watch TV? Open a news paper? I mean c'mon! You can't do that here and expect to survive in Buffalo. Get a clue Chan! I know it's just preaseason, but it's your preseason to us also!!!! WAKE UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoggyHog Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 We are a long way from worrying about momentum. If he told is players that the game really didn't matter, he's right, it doesn't. Oh, but it does! This was is "debut" and he dropped the ball. As I said before, as he was evaluating his players, we were evaluating him. If you think this was just a pre-season game, you are sadly mistaken. This was his chance to set his tone. He failed. He looked like a chump making a desperate call when there was no need to. He needed to show us more "steel" than what he showed. Basically, he looked like a scared little school-girl (no offense Ladies) in his first outing as a head coach for the Buffalo Bills. Again, I hope this is not what he is about or we are in for a long season of frustration and heartach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Yep, that's what I thought. QB sneak time. I mean, come on, it's the preseason for crying out loud. I thought for sure that Chan would go for it. Maybe there's some league-wide "book" like the 2-point conversion one that tells you when to go for it or not (though I still wouldn't have pegged him as a "by-the-book" kind of guy). I thought the double reverse was in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpl6876 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I wasn't expecting much being the first preseason game and all the changes that have occurred. However, I have been reading and hearing how coach Gailey has been instilling a sense of toughness with our guys. I didn't seem that with our guys. They were getting "manhandled." It goes back to what I have been saying all along. A coach has to have talent and that is something the Bills are lacking... Prior to this season, Washington and Buffalo are pretty comparable teams. At this point, the progress and lack of is pretty evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I think it all boils down to what does the team need to practice more .... Fourth and short to accomplish a possible game changing play or A punt We can all rest assured that when "crunch time" comes Mooreman will be able to take the field with full confidance that he's seen this situation in preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I don't think the coaches care too much about challenging plays in the pre season. Even though I agree it was something you would normally challenge. But they don't really care if its the defense, offense, or special teams on the field. They are trying to evaluate players and that's the main focus. I could definitely see the challenge being related to a decision to get the offense back on the field for further evaluation vs. worrying about inches on the goal line. heaven forbid they actually practice the process and procedure for challenging a call that is important to execute during the real games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 You guys seem to have forgotten... This is the same guy who was fired as OC after his offense went 2-14 with the Chiefs, only the Buffalo Bills would promote a guy to head coach who was just fired from his last job while in a lesser position. I realize it was only a preseason game, but it showed the more experienced coaching on both sides of the ball. There's a reason Gailey wasn't mentioned for other NFL jobs. For all the talk and cliches, he's still going to be a conservative grind it out guy who prefers to run the ball. When I look at Washington, I see the things Buffalo could not do: find a proven HC, acquire a solid to above average QB, and shore up their OL while transitioning to a 3-4. Both Buffalo and Washington were bad teams in 2009, and while it's early, I think Washington won't be drafting in the top 5 like Buffalo will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I totally disagree. I did not like not challenging the TD. Certainly not a touchdown and you never know what the next play may bring. As far as a QB sneak? Not at your own 37 with 7 minutes left in the half. No way! NEVER! Kick, kick and kick again in that situation! Don't burn your last TO at that point. Dumb/stupid decision and I HOPE this year is not coached like that! If so, get ready people....... we are in for a long......long.....long year! Says it all about what Chadless thinks of our offensive line does it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Say what you will about Losman, but he was very good at drawinging the opposition offsides with his snap-count. Fannning-Fan, not so much. I really can't think of anything Trentie's very good at, other than sucking-up to Dick Jauron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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