Fred Smerlas's Moustache Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 I'm native american as well, but I'm too busy pissing away my casino money on booze to care about this.
crazyDingo Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 As a homeless, transvestite prostitute with lice, I am offended by the Patriots. EDIT: I apologize if I have offended any lice.
lets_go_bills Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 The Redskins and the Seminoles aren't derogatory terms. They are synonymous with football. You should not take offence with that, but rather feel pride. I think people are too sensitive these days.
Rob's House Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 But still, what's your point? It's just the colloquial name of the collective people in America descended from the indigenous peoples. I don't think you're really educating anybody when you say that most of us were born here in America. That's the problem. The term native american already had a meaning before it was reassigned for political correctness. Aboriginal American is the proper name for those who are too racially sensitive to use the term American Indian.
Bob in STL Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 You're right. How far back do we take this? So are we all former communists?
Bob in STL Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 As a homeless, transvestite prostitute with lice, I am offended by the Patriots. EDIT: I apologize if I have offended any lice. Thanks for the laugh.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 The Redskins and the Seminoles aren't derogatory terms. They are synonymous with football. You should not take offence with that, but rather feel pride. I think people are too sensitive these days. Seminoles isn't derogatory because it's the name of a tribe. Redskins IS derogatory because it's the rough equivalent of Negroes. If there were a team named the Negroes, would you argue that black people shouldn't feel offended because they are now "synonymous with football"?
grammer_police Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Seminoles isn't derogatory because it's the name of a tribe. Redskins IS derogatory because it's the rough equivalent of Negroes. If there were a team named the Negroes, would you argue that black people shouldn't feel offended because they are now "synonymous with football"? good post
Rob's House Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Seminoles isn't derogatory because it's the name of a tribe. Redskins IS derogatory because it's the rough equivalent of Negroes. If there were a team named the Negroes, would you argue that black people shouldn't feel offended because they are now "synonymous with football"? If there was a team called the Whiteskins, I might try to get offended, but no matter how hard I tried, I just don't think I could get that worried about it.
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Just thought I'd express myself and vent for a moment. I can think of no more disrespectful and derogatory team name in all of American sport. Could you imagine the Harlem Blackskins or the San Francisco Yellows? I cringe every time I hear their name....oh well. Ever see the Boston Celtic Logo? What about The Fighting Irish? Cartroonish, Bafoonish Sterotypical Irish right??? But It's OK because it's a white guy?? I'm Irish and I could get all bent out of shape and whine... But I won't because if I did I would lower myself to welefare, the government owes mentality... I refuse to see myself as a dreg of society and choose to focus on the positive impact my people have made on this country... OK.. I'm off my soap box.. Beer time...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Seminoles isn't derogatory because it's the name of a tribe. Redskins IS derogatory because it's the rough equivalent of Negroes. If there were a team named the Negroes, would you argue that black people shouldn't feel offended because they are now "synonymous with football"? Quick! Everyone get on your sensitivity suits! Sometimes, I hate this country and what's become of it.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Ever see the Boston Celtic Logo? What about The Fighting Irish? Cartroonish, Bafoonish Sterotypical Irish right??? But It's OK because it's a white guy?? I'm Irish and I could get all bent out of shape and whine... But I won't because if I did I would lower myself to welefare, the government owes mentality... I refuse to see myself as a dreg of society and choose to focus on the positive impact my people have made on this country... OK.. I'm off my soap box.. Beer time... Good man.
SouthernMan Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 I too find it inappropriate and outdated. Probably never get changed. I'm also offended at the South Carolina bumper stickers and motto. As a lifelong dick, I'm offended by their chant, "Go Cocks!"
PushthePile Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Seminoles isn't derogatory because it's the name of a tribe. Redskins IS derogatory because it's the rough equivalent of Negroes. If there were a team named the Negroes, would you argue that black people shouldn't feel offended because they are now "synonymous with football"? I am all for changing the name,if it is offensive to people. I'm still holding out for a day where the acknowledgement of skin tones is not offensive though. In a world that is full of offensive things, why we spend so much time focusing on skin color is beyond me. Besides the most offensive skin tone is probably my pasty white complexion.
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Didn't native Americans cross over a land bridge from native Siberia? Yup so did Elk...
seq004 Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Seminoles isn't derogatory because it's the name of a tribe. Redskins IS derogatory because it's the rough equivalent of Negroes. If there were a team named the Negroes, would you argue that black people shouldn't feel offended because they are now "synonymous with football"? Well said brother! It's just ignorant poster day on TBD.
VA Bills Fan Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 "who cares that Iron Eyes Cody is actually Italian, not Native American. That's like stating the fact that James Caan isn't really Italian." Ah the things you learn from the Sopranos. I miss that show.
kegtapr Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 If there was a team called the Whiteskins, I might try to get offended, but no matter how hard I tried, I just don't think I could get that worried about it. How 'bout the Crackers?
Endless Ike Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Just thought I'd express myself and vent for a moment. I can think of no more disrespectful and derogatory team name in all of American sport. Could you imagine the Harlem Blackskins or the San Francisco Yellows? I cringe every time I hear their name....oh well. Fighting Irish Nuff said...At least its not the "Drunken Indians" shut up and grow a sack...there's not a people alive who haven't been persecuted sometime somewhere in this crazy mixed up world of ours
flmike Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Are you the real deal or one of those "I'm 5% Cherokee people?" Regardless, I'm a white guy, but diehard Native history and culture. I go up to Pine Ridge and the Black Hills once a year. Personally I am more offended by the Braves and Seminoles chant more than anything, then the Indians logo second and the Redskins name third. The Redskins do have a very respectful and badass logo. I am very offended that the Fighting Sioux of North Dakota were forced to give up their nickname. How is that any different than the Fighting Irish? The Seminoles name and logo is also totally respectful, although I think they have some goofy mascot. The point is that I think it's totally cool to pay homage to Natives with a mascot or team name as long as it's not done in poor tatse and there are clearly plenty of examples of both in sports today. Seminole grad here. Our mascot is anything but goofy. His outfit is vetted by the Seminole tribe and he rides in on a fine horse and plants a burning spear in the center of the field. The university is fully supported by the Seminole tribe and there is a good scholarship program in place for them to attend. Go Noles! Dude, the chant is awesome.
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