bowery4 Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Only 9 players 30 and above and 2 are kickers. This is a young team, so they may lose quite a bit. The plus side is the potentiality. I guess that is what you get when there are no players here drafted by us 8 years ago. I posted this in another thread but thought it was interesting enough to have its own. Buffalo Bills Draft History 2002-2009 databaseFootball.com **putting this up here because you have to look at the full draft IMO* I do see the point, but well, more information is better. I also think it doesn't really matter what draft slotting someone has so far as if they improve the team (of course it does in other ways. i.e dollars and future drafts) After looking at it, I think the fact we have no one on the team that we drafted only 8 years ago is a pretty BIG disappointment! and inditment of the FO but the last few years have improved. I think, we will see. 2009 Rnd Name College Note 1 Aaron Maybin Penn State for now let's say projected starter lol 1 Eric Wood Louisville tons of upside, good rookie season, fan favorite 2 Jairus Byrd Oregon Pro Bowl rookie season 2 Andy Levitre Oregon State Very good rookie season 4 Shawn Nelson Southern Miss Needs blocking skills, maybe considered projected starter at this point 5 Nic Harris Oklahoma gone 6 Cary Harris Southern Cal gone 7 Ellis Lankster West Virginia played in rookie season because of injury, showed flashes will probably see playing time 2008 Rnd Name College Note 1 Leodis McKelvin Troy at least nickel back, projected starter will see lots of playing time 2 James Hardy Indiana step it up Mr Hardy 3 Chris Ellis Virginia Tech Showed nothing so far, having good camp 4 Reggie Corner Akron good player in a deep secondary, at least verygood back up 4 Derek Fine Kansas gone 5 Alvin Bowen Iowa State gone 6 Xavier Omon Northwest Missouri State gone 7 Demetrius Bell Northwest State (LA) Project lots of upside, after last year no where else to go, projected starter 7 Steve Johnson Kentucky beat out TO and Hardy, projected starter, for a 7th good pick on paper 7 Kennard Cox Pittsburgh gone 2007 Rnd Name College Note 1 Marshawn Lynch California 2 probowls and lots of off field stuff, player with up and downsides 1b maybe? 2 Paul Posluszny Penn State starter, needs to improve and be injury free 3 Trent Edwards Stanford needs to be a franchise qb, starter, last chance is this season 4 Dwayne Wright Fresno State gone 6 John Wendling Wyoming gone but good player who started 7 Derek Schouman Boise Statehe was replaced by the drafting of Nelson and the signing of Mathews but has shown some stuff stys or goes this year IDK 7 C.J. Ah You Oklahoma gone 2006 Rnd Name College Note 1 Donte Whitner Ohio State This is his year according to early camp reports, I hope so. reeeaaaaccchhh in the draft but not"his fault" would love to see this decent player live up to draft position 1 John McCargo North Carolina State who knows, showed flashes has been bad, couldn't be traded (although you have to think Indy wanted him, must be something there) looking good at camp? I have no idea. Time to step up 3 Ashton Youboty Ohio State one of my favorite injury prone players, hope he stays heathy V.G. back up 4 Ko Simpson South Carolina bye bye 5 Kyle Williams Louisiana State wow, a great draft choice!!really hoping he fits the NT position, think he is all good if he does 5 Brad Butler Virginia why did you retire Brad? gone (another good draft choice 6 Keith Ellison Oregon State good player/effort, does he fit the scheeme? will he be cut? 7 Terrance Pennington New Mexico gone 7 Aaron Merz California gone 2005 Rnd Name College Note 2 Roscoe Parrish Miami (FL) really time to step up!! 3 Kevin Everett Miami (FL) gone, sorry to say 4 Duke Preston Illinois gone 5 Eric King Wake Forest gone 6 Justin Geisinger Vanderbilt gone 7 Lionel Gates Louisville gone 2004 Rnd Name College Note 1 Lee Evans Wisconsin best wr on the team needs to be better but not bad 1 J.P. Losman Tulane gone thank god 3 Tim Anderson Ohio State gone 4 Tim Euhus Oregon State gone 7 Dylan McFarland Montana gone 7 Jonathan Smith Georgia Tech gone 2003 Rnd Name College Note 1 Willis McGahee Miami (FL) gone thank god!! although he fits on another team well 2 Chris Kelsay Nebraska mr step up this year, not as bad as he is painted but not great either cosidering draft position 3 Angelo Crowell Virginia gone, was good on a average/below average team but I liked the guy 4 Terrence McGee Northwestern State very good 4th round pick love his past hope there is more tp come 4 Sam Aiken North Carolina gone 5 Ben Sobieski Iowa gone 6 Lauvale Sape Utah gone 7 Mario Haggan Mississippi State gone 2002 Rnd Name College Note 1 Mike Williams Texas long gone, now can we forget him finally OK, ALL THE REST ARE GONE. HERE IS A REAL PROBLEM, THIS IS ONLY 8 YEARS AGO!!!! WE NEED TO KEEP PLAYERS THIS LONG TO BE SUCCESSFUL!! 2 Josh Reed Louisiana State 2 Ryan Denney Brigham Young 3 Coy Wire Stanford 5 Justin Bannan Colorado 6 Kevin Thomas UNLV 7 Mike Pucillo Auburn 7 Rodney Wright Fresno State 7 Jarrett Ferguson Virginia Tech 7 Dominique Stevenson Tennessee
bowery4 Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 oh and current roster ACTIVE # NAME POS. HT. WT. AGE EXP. COLLEGE 75 Allen, Sean OL 6-3 305 22 R East Carolina 57 Batten, Danny LB 6-4 250 22 R South Dakota State 77 Bell, Demetrius OL 6-5 307 26 2 Northwestern State 35 Bell, Joique RB 5-11 220 24 R Wayne State 4 Brohm, Brian QB 6-3 223 24 1 Louisville 10 Brown, Levi QB 6-4 225 23 R Troy 31 Byrd, Jairus S 5-10 200 23 2 Oregon 60 Calloway, Kyle OL 6-7 315 23 R Iowa 92 Carrington, Alex DE 6-5 284 23 R Arkansas State 73 Chambers, Kirk OL 6-7 315 31 6 Stanford 59 Coleman, Antonio LB 6-1 248 23 R Auburn 27 Corner, Reggie CB 5-9 175 26 3 Akron 54 Davis, Andra LB 6-1 251 31 9 Florida 41 Destin, John CB 5-11 191 23 R Tulsa 72 Duncan, Rashaad DE 6-2 315 23 1 Pittsburgh 81 Easley, Marcus WR 6-2 207 22 R Connecticut 98 Edwards, Dwan DE 6-3 290 29 6 Oregon State 5 Edwards, Trent QB 6-4 231 26 4 Stanford 93 Ellis, Chris LB 6-4 261 25 3 Virginia Tech 56 Ellison, Keith LB 6-0 229 26 5 Oregon State 83 Evans, Lee WR 5-10 197 29 7 Wisconsin 44 Ferguson, Rodney FB 6-0 234 23 1 New Mexico 14 Fitzpatrick, Ryan QB 6-2 225 27 5 Harvard 29 Florence, Drayton CB 6-0 195 29 8 Tuskegee 61 Gaddis, Christian OL 6-1 300 25 2 Villanova 74 Green, Cornell OL 6-6 315 33 9 Central Florida 63 Hangartner, Geoff OL 6-5 301 28 6 Texas A&M 84 Hardy, James WR 6-5 220 24 2 Indiana 47 Harris, Cary S 5-11 187 23 2 USC 36 Harris, Dominique CB 6-2 213 23 R Temple 75 Harvey, Lonnie NT 6-3 342 23 1 Morgan State 79 Hennessey, Nick OL 6-5 291 24 1 Colgate 68 Howard, Cordaro OL 6-4 314 23 R Georgia Tech 17 Jackson, Chad WR 6-1 223 25 3 Florida 22 Jackson, Fred RB 6-1 215 29 4 Coe College 91 Johnson, Spencer DE 6-3 286 28 7 Auburn 13 Johnson, Steve WR 6-2 202 24 3 Kentucky 19 Jones, Donald WR 6-0 214 22 R Youngstown State 90 Kelsay, Chris LB 6-4 261 30 8 Nebraska 25 Lankster, Ellis CB 5-9 190 23 2 West Virginia 67 Levitre, Andy OL 6-2 305 24 2 Oregon State 9 Lindell, Rian K 6-3 233 33 11 Washington State 23 Lynch, Marshawn RB 5-11 215 24 4 California 52 Manalac, Ryan LB 6-0 235 24 1 Cincinnati 82 Matthews, Michael TE 6-4 270 26 4 Georgia Tech 58 Maybin, Aaron LB 6-4 250 22 2 Penn State 97 McCargo, John DE 6-2 307 26 5 NC State 24 McGee, Terrence CB 5-9 198 29 8 Northwestern State 38 McIntyre, Corey FB 6-0 258 31 6 West Virginia 28 McKelvin , Leodis CB 5-10 184 24 3 Troy 69 Meredith, Jamon OL 6-5 304 24 2 South Carolina 55 Mitchell, Kawika LB 6-1 253 30 8 South Florida 45 Moats, Arthur LB 6-2 250 22 R James Madison 8 Moorman, Brian P 6-0 172 34 10 Pittsburgh State 86 Nelson, David WR 6-5 217 23 R Florida 89 Nelson, Shawn TE 6-5 240 24 2 Southern Mississippi 11 Parrish, Roscoe WR 5-9 178 28 6 Miami 51 Posluszny, Paul LB 6-1 238 25 4 Penn State 76 Ramsey, Andre OL 6-5 322 23 2 Ball State 18 Roosevelt, Naaman WR 6-0 189 22 R Buffalo 65 Sanborn, Garrison LS 6-1 253 25 2 Florida State 40 Sargeant, Lydell CB 6-1 187 23 1 Penn State 80 Schouman, Derek TE 6-2 223 25 3 Boise State 43 Scott, Bryan S 6-1 219 29 8 Penn State 30 Simpson, Chad RB 5-9 216 24 3 Morgan State 21 Spiller, C.J. RB 5-11 196 23 R Clemson 99 Stroud, Marcus DE 6-6 310 32 10 Georgia 88 Stupar, Jonathan TE 6-3 254 26 2 Virginia 53 Torbor, Reggie LB 6-2 250 29 7 Auburn 96 Troup, Torell NT 6-3 315 22 R Central Florida 71 Wang, Ed OL 6-5 301 23 R Virginia Tech 66 Watkins, Jason OL 6-6 325 25 1 Florida 20 Whitner, Donte S 5-10 208 25 5 Ohio State 95 Williams, Kyle NT 6-1 306 27 5 LSU 37 Wilson, George S 6-0 212 29 5 Arkansas 70 Wood, Eric OL 6-4 315 24 2 Louisville 50 Woods, Donovan LB 6-2 230 25 2 Oklahoma State 26 Youboty, Ashton CB 5-11 189 26 5 Ohio State INJURED RESERVE # NAME POS. HT. WT. AGE EXP. COLLEGE 87 Klopfenstein, Joe TE 6-5 262 26 4 Colorado PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM # NAME POS. HT. WT. AGE EXP. COLLEGE 33 Corto, Jon S 6-1 220 25 3 Sacred Heart
BillsPhan Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 ...I guess that is what you get when there are no players here drafted by us 8 years ago....After looking at it, I think the fact we have no one on the team that we drafted only 8 years ago is a pretty BIG disappointment! and inditment of the FO.......OK, ALL THE REST ARE GONE. HERE IS A REAL PROBLEM, THIS IS ONLY 8 YEARS AGO!!!! WE NEED TO KEEP PLAYERS THIS LONG TO BE SUCCESSFUL... News flash for you Mr. Statistics: I just checked the Saints draft from 2002, and compared it to their current roster. Guess what, not a single guy from that draft "only 8 years ago" is still on their team either. I wonder, would winning the Super Bowl be considered "SUCCESSFUL" in your expert opinion?? The NFL draft is NOTHING more then one huge crap shoot, for every single team - not just the Buffalo Bills, who have had no success for 10 seasons. You are 100% correct to blame the Bills FO for this painful stretch. But drafting players who remain on the same team for 8 - 10 seasons obviously means next to nothing these days, and signing the right free agents and making smart trades obviously means much more, in my humble opinion.
bladiebla Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 You have 2009 - 6 Cary Harris Southern Cal listed as gone but he was resigned and in camp atm (you have him on the current list).
bladiebla Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 BTW the best comparision is to stick to looking back 5 years imho. Most rookies end up with a 5 year contract. Being cut before contract is up = bust imho.
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Only 9 players 30 and above and 2 are kickers. This is a young team, so they may lose quite a bit. The plus side is the potentiality. I guess that is what you get when there are no players here drafted by us 8 years ago. I posted this in another thread but thought it was interesting enough to have its own. Buffalo Bills Draft History 2002-2009 databaseFootball.com **putting this up here because you have to look at the full draft IMO* I do see the point, but well, more information is better. I also think it doesn't really matter what draft slotting someone has so far as if they improve the team (of course it does in other ways. i.e dollars and future drafts) After looking at it, I think the fact we have no one on the team that we drafted only 8 years ago is a pretty BIG disappointment! and inditment of the FO but the last few years have improved. I think, we will see. 2009 Rnd Name College Note 1 Aaron Maybin Penn State for now let's say projected starter lol 1 Eric Wood Louisville tons of upside, good rookie season, fan favorite 2 Jairus Byrd Oregon Pro Bowl rookie season 2 Andy Levitre Oregon State Very good rookie season 4 Shawn Nelson Southern Miss Needs blocking skills, maybe considered projected starter at this point 5 Nic Harris Oklahoma gone 6 Cary Harris Southern Cal gone 7 Ellis Lankster West Virginia played in rookie season because of injury, showed flashes will probably see playing time 2008 Rnd Name College Note 1 Leodis McKelvin Troy at least nickel back, projected starter will see lots of playing time 2 James Hardy Indiana step it up Mr Hardy 3 Chris Ellis Virginia Tech Showed nothing so far, having good camp 4 Reggie Corner Akron good player in a deep secondary, at least verygood back up 4 Derek Fine Kansas gone 5 Alvin Bowen Iowa State gone 6 Xavier Omon Northwest Missouri State gone 7 Demetrius Bell Northwest State (LA) Project lots of upside, after last year no where else to go, projected starter 7 Steve Johnson Kentucky beat out TO and Hardy, projected starter, for a 7th good pick on paper 7 Kennard Cox Pittsburgh gone 2007 Rnd Name College Note 1 Marshawn Lynch California 2 probowls and lots of off field stuff, player with up and downsides 1b maybe? 2 Paul Posluszny Penn State starter, needs to improve and be injury free 3 Trent Edwards Stanford needs to be a franchise qb, starter, last chance is this season 4 Dwayne Wright Fresno State gone 6 John Wendling Wyoming gone but good player who started 7 Derek Schouman Boise Statehe was replaced by the drafting of Nelson and the signing of Mathews but has shown some stuff stys or goes this year IDK 7 C.J. Ah You Oklahoma gone 2006 Rnd Name College Note 1 Donte Whitner Ohio State This is his year according to early camp reports, I hope so. reeeaaaaccchhh in the draft but not"his fault" would love to see this decent player live up to draft position 1 John McCargo North Carolina State who knows, showed flashes has been bad, couldn't be traded (although you have to think Indy wanted him, must be something there) looking good at camp? I have no idea. Time to step up 3 Ashton Youboty Ohio State one of my favorite injury prone players, hope he stays heathy V.G. back up 4 Ko Simpson South Carolina bye bye 5 Kyle Williams Louisiana State wow, a great draft choice!!really hoping he fits the NT position, think he is all good if he does 5 Brad Butler Virginia why did you retire Brad? gone (another good draft choice 6 Keith Ellison Oregon State good player/effort, does he fit the scheeme? will he be cut? 7 Terrance Pennington New Mexico gone 7 Aaron Merz California gone 2005 Rnd Name College Note 2 Roscoe Parrish Miami (FL) really time to step up!! 3 Kevin Everett Miami (FL) gone, sorry to say 4 Duke Preston Illinois gone 5 Eric King Wake Forest gone 6 Justin Geisinger Vanderbilt gone 7 Lionel Gates Louisville gone 2004 Rnd Name College Note 1 Lee Evans Wisconsin best wr on the team needs to be better but not bad 1 J.P. Losman Tulane gone thank god 3 Tim Anderson Ohio State gone 4 Tim Euhus Oregon State gone 7 Dylan McFarland Montana gone 7 Jonathan Smith Georgia Tech gone 2003 Rnd Name College Note 1 Willis McGahee Miami (FL) gone thank god!! although he fits on another team well 2 Chris Kelsay Nebraska mr step up this year, not as bad as he is painted but not great either cosidering draft position 3 Angelo Crowell Virginia gone, was good on a average/below average team but I liked the guy 4 Terrence McGee Northwestern State very good 4th round pick love his past hope there is more tp come 4 Sam Aiken North Carolina gone 5 Ben Sobieski Iowa gone 6 Lauvale Sape Utah gone 7 Mario Haggan Mississippi State gone 2002 Rnd Name College Note 1 Mike Williams Texas long gone, now can we forget him finally OK, ALL THE REST ARE GONE. HERE IS A REAL PROBLEM, THIS IS ONLY 8 YEARS AGO!!!! WE NEED TO KEEP PLAYERS THIS LONG TO BE SUCCESSFUL!! 2 Josh Reed Louisiana State 2 Ryan Denney Brigham Young 3 Coy Wire Stanford 5 Justin Bannan Colorado 6 Kevin Thomas UNLV 7 Mike Pucillo Auburn 7 Rodney Wright Fresno State 7 Jarrett Ferguson Virginia Tech 7 Dominique Stevenson Tennessee A lot of these guys are on other teams... Don't make them out to be busts, some are starting and playing at a very high level...
sharper802 Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 The Bills have been a very young team for a long long time. They have had bad players mostly too small to play in the NFL for a long time. Donahoe was mostly on the right track but got way too full of himself thinking he could outsmart the room with picks like McGahee and Parrish. If instead of McGahee we had landed a top OT and instead of Parrish they had a decent guard the O-line would be in much better shape. There are plenty of PR's in this league and on this team.
BillsPhan Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 A lot of these guys are on other teams... Don't make them out to be busts, some are starting and playing at a very high level... ....and who are these starters playing at a high level, to be exact??
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