FutureBillsGM Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 It was HOT out and the crowd was bigger than I expected for a Tuesday afternoon. I stood by the players gate and saw quite a few players come in. I actually walked from the road to the players gate with Dante Whitner and no one else around which was kind of cool. I stationed myself at the far end of the field which was the offensive end for individual drills. I caught the interior linemen at first, then the QBs and running backs, then the receivers. I watched the QBs and RBs during the special team portion and then saw 7x7 drills. I left a bit early to beat the crowd and because my camera and cell phone died. Here are my notes for what they are worth: * Trent looks good. He looked real good. It was hard to say if he was really that good or if the other QBs in camp are just that bad but Trent was clearly heads and shoulders above them. They did a drill where the QB ran a play action rollout and passed on the run. Trent was spot on and had good velocity. Fitz and Brohm looked like they were floating everything. No zip at all. Brown showed some velocity but had a weird, almost side arm throwing motion on these rollout passes. Trent had a nice stretch in 7x7 where he hit Roscoe on a nice throw, David Nelson on a nice throw, hit Lynch, hit D. Nelson again, just overthrew Jackson in the corner endzone then threw a TD pass to D. Nelson. * Fitz looked terrible. Looked out of it all day and had no velocity on any of his throws. His highlight of the day was a one handed TD catch from Edwards while the special teams practice was going on. I do not see him on the roster if this type of play continues. In the one 7x7 drill I saw him run, he started incomplete, incomplete, bat down at the line, TD to Roscoe on a short out with no one around. * Wood spent a lot more time snapping the ball than practicing the guard position in individual drills. He also looked the best at doing it. His snaps were spot on and easy to handle and he got out of his stance quickly. Hangartner looked solid but not overly strong or athletic. The others looked terrible. Let's hope we do not see any of them at center. I am assuming it was Gaddis with a few others but I noted #62 as being the worst and can't find that number on the roster. * Lee and Roscoe were both solid for the receivers. Steve Johnson looked like a pro and the clear #2 guy. Easley was on the field joking with the guys and moving around well but obviously did not practice. Donald Jones made great plays all day and looked like a real sleeper. I noted him as my top WR of the day. Namaan also made some nice catches but did not look as fast or fluid as Jones. Hardy looked terrible for most of practice, then made some nice moves, then dropped a few in 7x7. David Nelson looked to be about the same size as him and looked much better catching, running routes and moving fluidly. On every other play a coach would stop the drill to say something to Hardy or show him how to get off the line correctly or how to run a route. I can see Hardy being cut if this is the norm. Roscoe was all over and Lee was Lee. * Marshawn dogged it bad through the running back stretching. He barely made an effort and never did what the coaching shouting out the drills was saying. Spiller followed directions to a T and looked enthused. Jackson did as well. Marshawn did go all out in the team drills though and made a few nice catches. * Playcalling looks more creative from the walk-through portion that they held. Sad that a training camp walkthrough looks more creative that last year's offense. That's all I was able to remember or note. Hopefully I can get back out to focus on the defense. I have a ton of pictures but can't seem to find a site that will load them all.
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 thanks, great info - I hope more and more people keep saying Edwards and Johnson look good because it sounds a lot more encouraging from a week ago. It would be nice to be able to focus on the line next off-season knowing that Edwards made a miraculous turnaround. LT, OLB, QB are the 3 biggest holes with QB obviously taking the longest to develop. Wouldn't it be nice to skip that step.....
VABills Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 thanks, great info - I hope more and more people keep saying Edwards and Johnson look good because it sounds a lot more encouraging from a week ago. It would be nice to be able to focus on the line next off-season knowing that Edwards made a miraculous turnaround. LT, OLB, QB are the 3 biggest holes with QB obviously taking the longest to develop. Wouldn't it be nice to skip that step..... Only problem is if Edwards goes down and the other three look that bad we are really in trouble.
Fixxxer Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Thanks for the report Successor of Buddy Nix. I can't wait to see this team against Washington. Playcalling, rookies, the offense, everything.
FutureBillsGM Posted August 10, 2010 Author Posted August 10, 2010 Only problem is if Edwards goes down and the other three look that bad we are really in trouble. Fitz looked bad. I didn't see much either way on Brohm but he seemed to be floating it a lot. I missed his 7x7 work. Brown looked to have zip and mobility but did not see him in any team drills.
seadog Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 If the LT does'nt perform well Edwards will not be around to see next season. Teams are going to blitz us to death until we prove that we can stop the blitz and complete passes. Teams are going to line up 8 or 9 on the line and try to shut the run down and pressure the qb. Same story for the last 7 or 8 years now. The offensive line is well known as one of worst in the league. They need to protect and burn teams when they try to blitz us. Same goes for the defense. If they cannot pressure qb's and stop the run it will be along season. By the third game of the year we will know what we have.
FutureBillsGM Posted August 11, 2010 Author Posted August 11, 2010 If the LT does'nt perform well Edwards will not be around to see next season. Teams are going to blitz us to death until we prove that we can stop the blitz and complete passes. Teams are going to line up 8 or 9 on the line and try to shut the run down and pressure the qb. Same story for the last 7 or 8 years now. The offensive line is well known as one of worst in the league. They need to protect and burn teams when they try to blitz us. Same goes for the defense. If they cannot pressure qb's and stop the run it will be along season. By the third game of the year we will know what we have. I think Gailey will have some sort of plan for this. The receivers worked a lot today on short inside slants. This is something that we haven't seen in a long time. The coaches were right at the line with the players, jamming them and then showing them how to beat the jam and worked with many individually on making the correct inside cut and selling another route. Roscoe may excel at this. He can't beat the jam but is so fast that he can cut right insdie before ever being jammed.
GR8PRKN Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Great Report.. Thanks. I like what I am hearing about Trent lets see how he does this weekend against the redskins.
Whites Bay Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Great Report.. Thanks. I like what I am hearing about Trent lets see how he does this weekend against the redskins. Imagine if he DOES do well. Won't that scramble a few predictions and outlooks on this forums? I'll tune in for the entertainment!
Logical Reasoning Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 If Brown and Edwards, who seems to be the best qb, are going to both make the team; play Fitz and Brohm and let them battle it out for the next two weeks. Cut the worst out of the two so that the winner of the competition can get more reps. Why delay the inevitable.
The Dean Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 If Brown and Edwards, who seems to be the best qb, are going to both make the team; play Fitz and Brohm and let them battle it out for the next two weeks. Cut the worst out of the two so that the winner of the competition can get more reps. Why delay the inevitable. I think they will use the first two preseason games to make that decision. It's really hard to tell how a guy plays from watching him practice. A couple of weeks ago I figured Fitzy was either going to start, or be gone. But now I think that he might stick around as a known-quantity #2. He's pretty smart and does a decent job of moving in the pocket and isn't afraid to go downfield. But I still think Brohm may have more of an upside. However, unless he sparkles a bit in preseason I think he may be gone. Does this sparkle with everyone?
FutureBillsGM Posted August 11, 2010 Author Posted August 11, 2010 I think they will use the first two preseason games to make that decision. It's really hard to tell how a guy plays from watching him practice. A couple of weeks ago I figured Fitzy was either going to start, or be gone. But now I think that he might stick around as a known-quantity #2. He's pretty smart and does a decent job of moving in the pocket and isn't afraid to go downfield. But I still think Brohm may have more of an upside. However, unless he sparkles a bit in preseason I think he may be gone. Does this sparkle with everyone? I agreed with three points. It is hard to tell from practice, Brohm has more upside and this won't be decided until after the second preseason game. I would say the depth chart now is Trent-Brohm-Brown but that could swing wildly especially with Fitz, a smart QB, coming in against the second or third thringers in live game situations.
Pilsner Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Thanks for the camp report With your report and Mike's, it's almost like we're there.
Pilsner Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 I think they will use the first two preseason games to make that decision. It's really hard to tell how a guy plays from watching him practice. A couple of weeks ago I figured Fitzy was either going to start, or be gone. But now I think that he might stick around as a known-quantity #2. He's pretty smart and does a decent job of moving in the pocket and isn't afraid to go downfield. But I still think Brohm may have more of an upside. However, unless he sparkles a bit in preseason I think he may be gone. Does this sparkle with everyone? Edwards starts. My gut feeling says Brohm barely beats out Fitz for number 2 and Brown is our number 3. Either Brohm or Fitzy stays. Fitz is smart and plays with balls but we'll see if Chan thinks he's worth keeping around. His service ceiling is probably almost at it's peak. If Chan thinks he can get Brohm above that then well... We have a young team, so i see Gailey going with young qb's with upside. Who knows, Brohm could bomb and Fitz could stick around. For some reason I think Brown stays as our number 3. Instead of us keeping all 4 and Brown going to practice squad. Just my gut feeling. I have no stats to back it up.
Pilsner Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 I think they will use the first two preseason games to make that decision. It's really hard to tell how a guy plays from watching him practice. A couple of weeks ago I figured Fitzy was either going to start, or be gone. But now I think that he might stick around as a known-quantity #2. He's pretty smart and does a decent job of moving in the pocket and isn't afraid to go downfield. But I still think Brohm may have more of an upside. However, unless he sparkles a bit in preseason I think he may be gone. Does this sparkle with everyone? If sparkling means winning, then I'm all for sparkling.
Mike32282 Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Great report! I completely agree with you on Fitzpatrick. He looks horrible and I would actually be surprised if he isn't cut.
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Great report! I completely agree with you on Fitzpatrick. He looks horrible and I would actually be surprised if he isn't cut. I won't be surprised if he's cut but he strikes me as the type he is more of a gamer. His game isn't pretty but he makes some plays. I would like to see the players in game situations before really evaluating them fully.
BobDVA Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Too bad we did not get the defensive report, Maybin, Kelsay, McCargo Suck, like we got the Lynch and Hardy digs in....
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