RayFinkle Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 And trust me, boys who are sexually mistreated as children have plenty of issues too. I agree, but there is a big difference between some freak priest mistreating boys vs the hot neighbor lady.
Just Jack Posted August 11, 2010 Author Posted August 11, 2010 I agree, but there is a big difference between some freak priest mistreating boys vs the hot neighbor lady. I think he means a 42 year old man with a 13 year old girl.
DrDawkinstein Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Of course it's different. But is it so different that a woman committing rape should be treated with general amusement and lightheartedness, like I'm constantly seeing in the "hot for teacher" comments on this board? And trust me, boys who are sexually mistreated as children have plenty of issues too. sure, BOYS who are sexually mistreated do have issues later in life. teenagers plowing the hot mom on the block, and getting video games, will be just fine. either way, this woman will be punished severely, so justice will be served. i think that is why you see the amusement and lightheartedness. we all remember what it was like to be a teenage boy, so we know there was no "raping" going on here, and we know justice of some sort will be served.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 sure, BOYS who are sexually mistreated do have issues later in life. teenagers plowing the hot mom on the block, and getting video games, will be just fine. either way, this woman will be punished severely, so justice will be served. i think that is why you see the amusement and lightheartedness. we all remember what it was like to be a teenage boy, so we know there was no "raping" going on here, and we know justice of some sort will be served. I get where you're coming from. I had a few hot teachers who I would've done back then without even thinking. But therein lies the crime...these women exploit the naivety of boys who aren't even close to ready for sex from a maturity standpoint, yet they think they are. What if the woman becomes pregnant? Trust me, I have no misconceptions that it's quite as serious as a 13 year old girl getting statutory raped. But it annoys me when people (not just on this board) talk about the woman like she should be sainted or something. And it's even worse when the woman is a teacher (as it seems she usually is) because that's such a horrible violation of the student-teacher relationship.
WWVaBeach Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 4.3 Million bail!?! That might be a tad excessive. Now that's top notch writing!
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 "...boys who aren't even close to ready for sex from a maturity standpoint, yet they think they are..." That is only from the pespective of the society we live in today. Biologically and historically (in another era)... They may have been ready. 13 is still a tad young, but heck there were boys fighting wars at 13.
Whites Bay Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 That is only from the pespective of the society we live in today. Biologically and historically (in another era)... They may have been ready. 13 is still a tad young, but heck there were boys fighting wars at 13. There still ARE boys who are fighting wars at 13. Cue...Darfur. Sage, respectfully, I'll come down on the side of those who say "Hoo-Ahh!!" Kids are resilient little dickens. You were, I was. They (and we) recover from the teenage years a lot better than the psychs might think. So some 13-year-old gets his rocks off with a hot neighbor...? Guess what? He'll probably reach 23 years old more well-adjusted than some pimply kid who winds up with blisters on his palm.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 There still ARE boys who are fighting wars at 13. Cue...Darfur. Sage, respectfully, I'll come down on the side of those who say "Hoo-Ahh!!" Kids are resilient little dickens. You were, I was. They (and we) recover from the teenage years a lot better than the psychs might think. So some 13-year-old gets his rocks off with a hot neighbor...? Guess what? He'll probably reach 23 years old more well-adjusted than some pimply kid who winds up with blisters on his palm. If it's not a problem for the kids, then how is it that all these women get caught. Someone's telling someone.
Just Jack Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 What if the woman becomes pregnant? Mary Kay Letourneau Rhianna Ellis Carolynn Hatcher Nicole Long (not verified) Dianne Dieterich
Whites Bay Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 If it's not a problem for the kids, then how is it that all these women get caught. Someone's telling someone. Uhh.....YEAH!! The 13-year-old kid who tells his pimply pot-smoking buddies that he got his rocks off with Mrs. Smith at the end of the street! Guess what? There's a line at Mrs. Smiths' house! And 13-year-olds are so discreet, the little dickens.... By the way, I'm elbowing my way to the front of that line, and praying for pimples. She must like 'em.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 What if the woman becomes pregnant? The whole pregnant issue is why there is the historical double-standard between the genders and why there would be outrage if the roles where reversed. What you said... She is a 42 year old woman and already had children... I hope she would be able to handle children.
Just Jack Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 The whole pregnant issue is why there is the historical double-standard between the genders and why there would be outrage if the roles where reversed. What you said... She is a 42 year old woman and already had children... I hope she would be able to handle children. Okay, then here's some male teacher getting students pregnant Physics Teacher Allegedly Gets Student Pregnant, Takes Her to Get Abortion Teacher Accused Of Getting Student Pregnant Arrested
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Okay, then here's some male teacher getting students pregnant Physics Teacher Allegedly Gets Student Pregnant, Takes Her to Get Abortion Teacher Accused Of Getting Student Pregnant Arrested And that is an outrage. I agree with the double-standard set. Females have more risk at stake.
Jim in Anchorage Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Of course it's different. But is it so different that a woman committing rape should be treated with general amusement and lightheartedness, like I'm constantly seeing in the "hot for teacher" comments on this board? And trust me, boys who are sexually mistreated as children have plenty of issues too. Agree 100%. I think the double standard occurs over the word "rape". Because it is impossible for a female to force sex on a male, a adult woman having sex with willing children[for thats what they are] is OK. But if I as a male have sex with a willing 13 year old girl, "rape" comes much easer off the tongue.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Agree 100%. I think the double standard occurs over the word "rape". Because it is impossible for a female to force sex on a male, a adult woman having sex with willing children[for thats what they are] is OK. But if I as a male have sex with a willing 13 year old girl, "rape" comes much easer off the tongue. I am not sure about that... Don't get me wrong, I am not diagreeing with you but I am pretty sure there are some school's of thoughts that says that males can be raped... They would argue the whole erection thing does not contitute consent. ??
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 With young men/males they call it "sowing their oats." The double standard is a society thing because of the greater amount of risk the female assumes.
The Dean Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 I am not sure about that... Don't get me wrong, I am not diagreeing with you but I am pretty sure there are some school's of thoughts that says that males can be raped... They would argue the whole erection thing does not contitute consent. ?? They are correct. An erection is no more consent than a woman getting wet, or having an orgasm while being forced upon. It is simply a physical response. Males can, and have, been raped. And although many underage boys may like and brag about having sex with an older woman, it doesn't mean it can't do some pretty major and long term psychological damage. And, as they are not of the age of consent, it is illegal. It is and should be considered the equal of an older man having sex with an underage girl. Now assuming the minors are consenting partners (and close to legal age), statutory rape is NOT the same, or as horrible, as forcible rape, but it is really nothing to be dismissed either.
Jim in Anchorage Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 That is only from the pespective of the society we live in today. Biologically and historically (in another era)... They may have been ready. 13 is still a tad young, but heck there were boys fighting wars at 13. You come up with strangest points I have ever read. Because at some point in history, in country's unknown, 13 year olds were sent out as cannon fodder we should change the age of consent?
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 You come up with strangest points I have ever read. Because at some point in history, in country's unknown, 13 year olds were sent out as cannon fodder we should change the age of consent? Are you really this dense?
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