yungmack Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 [/b] I'm prepared to "cowboy up" as you put it... I'll do the proverbial "dance with who brung ya" with this clown of a QB, but at the end of the night I'm looking for the hot chick... I'll pull for TE in 2010 & pray the Bills defense can stop the run on my way to enjoying a 6-10 season. See, that's the problem. There aren't any hot chicks at this dance, just four Plain Janes. So your choice is to either go home and wait for the next get-together, or enjoy yourself with what's available. For myself, I intend to accept that this is "who we are" and to enjoy the season as much as possible. So long as this year's team plays hard, plays intelligently and plays to win.
reddogblitz Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 people are still clinging to this notion that Dick J wouldn't let Trentative throw the ball downfield. Like he was just following orders, he could have completed the long ball given the chance. The long ball was there, Trent just didn't throw it. I sure as heck don't cling to this. I think Turk and Alex has offenses in with a real passing game. Trent just wouldn't throw it out there. I've been to several Trent games and seen WRs running free in the secondary only be ignored by Trent. Jaws, Rich Gannon, and Mark Kelso among others have commented about this at Bills games. That's why he was benched last year. The week before DJ got fired, he had already announced that Fitz would be starting the next game after Trent's dismal performance vs. Tennessee. They realized, this guy ain't gonna get it. Hopefully Coach Gailey can change this. But I gotta see it first. And, I gotta see 8 or 9 good games, not the usual 2 or 3 followed by a few bad games and then an injury.
CodeMonkey Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Guess we'll know a lot more on Friday! We won't know squat until October after they have a played a few games for real.
Heitz Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 We won't know squat until October after they have a played a few games for real. I disagree - we might not know if Trent is going to be the QB of the near-future, but I think that how the team plays, their attitude, the plays they run, the way they run them will give us a glimpse into our year...
Coach55 Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 The whole game is confidence not just Trent. There is a fine line between winning and losing and confidence can pull you over the line. The Bills of the early 90's had the confidence to win the game no matter how far they were down (except in January) and won a significant amount of games that they probably shouldn't have. If this team can win 3-4 games early, they could be seriously dangerous because the talent is there. Confidence is everything and I think Chan is really exuding it and it is showing through his players. Denzel Washington in Remember the Titans - "I'm a winner. I'm going to win. "
BilLions Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Trent really has troubles looking at more than one receiver. Every pass seems to be telegraphed for defences to easily read. If he starts to use a pump fake once in a while or at least look at more than one receiver, there may be hope.
Phil Hansen Forever Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 This is perhaps the most encouraging thing I've heard Trent say in quite some time, per Gaughan in TBN: "Lee's one of the best go-ball route-runners in this league, I feel like. He runs them down, he pins the guy, he gets open downfield. We just have to protect. I've got to be able to let it fly. I've got to be accurate with it." YES!, TRENT, YOU FINALLY GOT IT! LET IT FLY! STOP CHECKING DOWN EVERY PLAY! Maybe Gailey can get through to Edwards after all? (or maybe I'm trying too hard to find something to be optimistic about?) I think all along Trent's problem has been confidence and a sort of psychological hesitancy. If Gailey can be Trent's shrink and get his confidence level back up, who knows, maybe he can still turn him into an NFL QB. He has the prototypical size. Let's hope Gailey tutors Edwards the right way and unlocks his dormant potential ... Or am I just another irrational die-hard fan trying too hard to find a shred of hope as the season approaches? That's encouraging, but wait till Capt Checkdown goes against the Redskins. Each year, he looks "great" in camp, then reality sets it. From the reports about Friday night, he was back to old habits and unable to find anyone open. I wasn't there, just reading the reports of others and the media.
reddogblitz Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 That's encouraging, but wait till Capt Checkdown goes against the Redskins. Each year, he looks "great" in camp, then reality sets it. From the reports about Friday night, he was back to old habits and unable to find anyone open. I wasn't there, just reading the reports of others and the media. If Trent plays Friday like he did in the HOF game last year, this thing is back to being wide open. I'll start to believe in Trent if he's still doing well into November. Usually October is when it starts to go south on him soon followed by an injury.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 people are still clinging to this notion that Dick J wouldn't let Trentative throw the ball downfield. Like he was just following orders, he could have completed the long ball given the chance. The long ball was there, Trent just didn't throw it. Correct, and that begs the question "why not?" Was watching some "Classic Bills" on YouTube Two things struck me: 1) how long Kelly or Reich had in the pocket most of the time relative to any Bills game I was able to watch last year. 2) how often the backs and TEs threw a mean block at the right time to help the protection. I know some people think Trent had plenty of time to throw last year. Maybe he did, at times. I'm not sure that reflects reality most of the time. If 90% of the time you better dump off quick, that could lead to missed opportunities when there were both protection and open receivers. Lynch looks as though he should throw a good block, but I haven't seen it yet. Jackson seems to try, but whether it's technique or size doesn't seem too effective. Can good coaching and accountability make a difference here?
BobChalmers Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 people are still clinging to this notion that Dick J wouldn't let Trentative throw the ball downfield. Like he was just following orders, he could have completed the long ball given the chance. The long ball was there, Trent just didn't throw it. Well, when you consider every other aspect of Jauron's coaching "style", it's not an unreasonable guess at all. Dick played to not lose, because he thought - in his own words "it's hard to win". If he didn't convey that downer risk-averse mindset to his players directly, I guarantee it was spreading implicity. Why not assume he affected Edwards' confidence? JP Losman was the 11th rated passer in the NFL in Dick's first year as HC. He did that by throwing bombs to Evans, and Jauron rewarded him by bringing in TE. Losman regressed every year under that coaching staff, why shouldn't we hope TE regressed from the lightning-release super accurate passer he started as because of the same coaching?
Robert Paulson Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Looks like confidence is the new poise love it
drnykterstein Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Trent's problem isn't and hasn't ever been that he's a bad QB. His problem is that by week five he'll be out with some injury, and then return in week 8, at which point he won't be even half the QB we saw to start the season.
Geno Smith's Arm Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Well, when you consider every other aspect of Jauron's coaching "style", it's not an unreasonable guess at all. Dick played to not lose, because he thought - in his own words "it's hard to win". If he didn't convey that downer risk-averse mindset to his players directly, I guarantee it was spreading implicity. Why not assume he affected Edwards' confidence? JP Losman was the 11th rated passer in the NFL in Dick's first year as HC. He did that by throwing bombs to Evans, and Jauron rewarded him by bringing in TE. Losman regressed every year under that coaching staff, why shouldn't we hope TE regressed from the lightning-release super accurate passer he started as because of the same coaching? I think you're stretching it. I think he is what he is. And that with the way the team was desperate to get the ball downfield, if he didn't have the leadership to say "eff the coach guys, I know your open, and I know I can get you the ball, and I know we're out of the playoffs, and I know every week in the paper they are calling me Trentative and Captain Checkdown, and it's obvious that the coach has little authority in this organization, you can call me crazy, but I'm gonna throw the ball FIFTEEN WHOLE YARDS downfield this time if it's there" If he couldn't do that, then he won't ever be a good leader. I don't think that it happened that way though. I just think that for whatever reason, he either can't or won't make the throw. What was DJ gonna do, bench him for Fitzpatrick? Oh yeah.
bbillyfootballcoach Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 The thing that astounds me is that many fans seem to think an NFL offense should consist of a Madden playbook. There's a whole lot more to winning games than having your fastest WR run a go route on every play. If that were the secret every team in the league would do it on every play. Go look at the average completion distances and please stop talking playground football. thats actually the only deep ball trent has ever thrown and....we are talking about mid range throws he never makes...also to be clear as to what you meant....Trent sucked for 3 years because we think the plays should be like madden plays? I think he sucked because he sucked.
bbillyfootballcoach Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 My main concerns with Trent are not his confidence. I remember watching an interview on PTI with him last preseason and he was confident and relaxed.My concerns are consistency game in and game out, getting the ball out of his hand and his inability to stay healthy. You can't have solid games like he did against the Pats and Bucs to open the season and then follow those up with horrible performances against the Saints, Phins and Browns. His whole career has been like that. ...and then theres his health.... im glad he doesnt stay healthy
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