RkFast Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 I vote we let them marry, but demand them to keep the "assless chaps and suspenders look" at home. I think thats a fair trade.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 The only thing I cling to is reality. You've whined completely and totally about "societal norms" then your "solution" to making people equal is to rip out the very fabric you tried so desperately to defend because you're unable to face your own bigotry. bull ****. You obviously haven't read what I have been saying on this issue. What you you don't want to admit is that you are wrong and I am right. I am only ripping out the fabric for people who lack organized religion in their lives... Even gays are allowed to marry in certain organized religions... I have no problem with that, never have. It sure sounds like you are a Godless, scared little man Darin. It is Sunday, go to church... You won't be so afraid anymore and finally admit the gov't should stop meddling in religious issues... Cling to the state Darin... You are a hypocrite when you preach your libertarian BS.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Body blow, body blow... Looks like we have a booster club here... No way man, the only way Darin gets anything you think in by being a hypocrite. He can call me all the names all he wants... He is the one that needs to look inward. I have been saying the same thing all along. I am not ripping out my fabric, that can't be ripped out. Now Godless Darin's fabric can be ripped out because he needs to "use" the state on an issue like this.
Adam Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 bull ****. You obviously haven't read what I have been saying on this issue. What you you don't want to admit is that you are wrong and I am right. I am only ripping out the fabric for people who lack organized religion in their lives... Even gays are allowed to marry in certain organized religions... I have no problem with that, never have. It sure sounds like you are a Godless, scared little man Darin. It is Sunday, go to church... You won't be so afraid anymore and finally admit the gov't should stop meddling in religious issues... Cling to the state Darin... You are a hypocrite when you preach your libertarian BS. Please explain- it sounds like you don't think that atheists should marry. Is that the case or am I misreading you?
LeviF Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Please explain- it sounds like you don't think that atheists should marry. Is that the case or am I misreading you? I'm sitting here wondering when the term "civil union" disappeared from the conversation.
Adam Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 I'm sitting here wondering when the term "civil union" disappeared from the conversation. I never talked about civil unions, I was talking about marriage.....
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Please explain- it sounds like you don't think that atheists should marry. Is that the case or am I misreading you? Is marriage not a religious concept? I have nothing wrong with civil unions for all... Did I ever rail against those, no. Again, going back... IMO, it is still unhealthy for same sex unions because it defies the societal norm and muddy's the baseline... But my argument stays out of this relgious battle with "marriage" and finally keeps the peace FOREVER. What are people gaining by fighting to obtain the word without God in their lives... It is a battle that will never be resolved. Again, some people hold out hope and think a said mentality will die off. Fat chance on that as long as religion is grounded in so many people's lives. Most people misread me... People are so entrenched in "getting their way" they can't see the forest through the trees and the worst offender is Darin... But we love him anyway!
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 I'm sitting here wondering when the term "civil union" disappeared from the conversation. Thanks!
Adam Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Is marriage not a religious concept? I have nothing wrong with civil unions for all... Did I ever rail against those, no. Again, going back... IMO, it is still unhealthy for same sex unions because it defies the societal norm and muddy's the baseline... But my argument stays out of this relgious battle with "marriage" and finally keeps the peace FOREVER. What are people gaining by fighting to obtain the word without God in their lives... It is a battle that will never be resolved. Again, some people hold out hope and think a said mentality will die off. Fat chance on that as long as religion is grounded in so many people's lives. Most people misread me... People are so entrenched in "getting their way" they can't see the forest through the trees and the worst offender is Darin... But we love him anyway! A can see that you are trying to make things easier, but I see I few fallacies in your solution. 1. One religion would not recognize another religion's marriages. Problem would arise from this, as they always do when you give power to religions. 2. Societal norms are ok, but never should become the law of the land. I don't even think it really is a norm anymore. I know many homosexuals, most are contributing members of society, some with families and kids. 3. A lot of the arguement reminds me of how segregation was justified. This is why the majority is not allowed to rule in our republic
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 A can see that you are trying to make things easier, but I see I few fallacies in your solution. 1. One religion would not recognize another religion's marriages. Problem would arise from this, as they always do when you give power to religions. 2. Societal norms are ok, but never should become the law of the land. I don't even think it really is a norm anymore. I know many homosexuals, most are contributing members of society, some with families and kids. 3. A lot of the arguement reminds me of how segregation was justified. This is why the majority is not allowed to rule in our republic 1. It doesn't matter, religions don't have any gov'tmental powers. The civil union for all is what should be recognized by the state/gov't. 2. Why is plural marriage against the law? 3. Gays are already enjoying the same rights as others, equalize that if you must (where a disparity in treatment exists), you won't get that much fight out of me... Leave the word marriage out for all. I don't need the state to validate my marriage, and either should gays. If people have God and organized religion (marriage is an organized religious institution), not a problem. If not, the state can't give that.
Adam Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 1. It doesn't matter, religions don't have any gov'tmental powers. The civil union for all is what should be recognized by the state/gov't. 2. Why is plural marriage against the law? 3. Gays are already enjoying the same rights as others, equalize that if you must (where a disparity in treatment exists), you won't get that much fight out of me... Leave the word marriage out for all. I don't need the state to validate my marriage, and either should gays. If people have God and organized religion (marriage is an organized religious institution), not a problem. If not, the state can't give that. Aside from Hamas, terrorist organization don't have governmental power either- it is a religous group forcing their will on others- such is "The will of the people"
Alaska Darin Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 bull ****. You obviously haven't read what I have been saying on this issue. Yeah, I have. That's why I'm able to point out you spinning completely around on your "societal norms" and the fact that you're petrified that your kids are going to be gay. You're so out of shorts that you don't even know where your junk is. What you you don't want to admit is that you are wrong and I am right. I am only ripping out the fabric for people who lack organized religion in their lives... Constitution, schmonstitution. Even gays are allowed to marry in certain organized religions... I have no problem with that, never have. Liar. It sure sounds like you are a Godless, scared little man Darin. It is Sunday, go to church... It doesn't matter what day it is, you're still a retard and no amount of chanting is going to change that. You won't be so afraid anymore and finally admit the gov't should stop meddling in religious issues... Marriage hasn't been solely a "religious issue" for a very, very long time. I love your continued use of the fear thing, Mr. Homophobe. Cling to the state Darin... You are a hypocrite when you preach your libertarian BS. I'm not clinging to anything other than equal legal protection for everyone. You're the one who's showing nothing but desperation. Hey Tom, look at the gems we're getting off this one.*
keepthefaith Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 I do believe homosexuality is partially influenced by genes. There is some scientific evidence to support this position. The key word and the word I want to emphasize here is partially. Well, we agree on that.
Alaska Darin Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 1. It doesn't matter, religions don't have any gov'tmental powers. The civil union for all is what should be recognized by the state/gov't. So now you're arguing about a word? Why don't you zealots change to "Religious Covenant", that way you still get the joy of discrimination while pretending that you're walking arm-in-arm with the Flying Spaghetti Monster? 2. Why is plural marriage against the law? Because religious freaks used them to rape kids. That wasn't the straw that broke marriage's back, though. It soldiered on... 3. Gays are already enjoying the same rights as others, equalize that if you must (where a disparity in treatment exists), you won't get that much fight out of me... Leave the word marriage out for all. I don't need the state to validate my marriage, and either should gays. If people have God and organized religion (marriage is an organized religious institution), not a problem. If not, the state can't give that. Awesome. I guess my wife and I haven't been married for 20 years because we went to the Justice of the Peace. Well, except the fact that I have a marriage license. Try living in the now, lock water sucker.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 ^^^ Look... Darin is getting owned so he is stomping his feet and kicking up a fuss like a three year old. Tom... Help your buddy out... He asked for you: "Hey Tom, look at the gems we're getting off this one." Darin... Remember to Post when your temper tantrums are over. Let me guess you cut church this week and went to the arcade.
Alaska Darin Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 ^^^ Look... Darin is getting owned so he is stomping his feet and kicking up a fuss like a three year old. Tom... Help your buddy out... He asked for you: "Hey Tom, look at the gems we're getting off this one." Darin... Remember to Post when your temper tantrums are over. Let me guess you cut church this week and went to the arcade. Keep trying, Eric. Though I find your "freedom of religion" digs very refreshing.
Booster4324 Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Is marriage not a religious concept? I have nothing wrong with civil unions for all... Did I ever rail against those, no. Again, going back... IMO, it is still unhealthy for same sex unions because it defies the societal norm and muddy's the baseline... But my argument stays out of this relgious battle with "marriage" and finally keeps the peace FOREVER. What are people gaining by fighting to obtain the word without God in their lives... It is a battle that will never be resolved. Again, some people hold out hope and think a said mentality will die off. Fat chance on that as long as religion is grounded in so many people's lives. Most people misread me... People are so entrenched in "getting their way" they can't see the forest through the trees and the worst offender is Darin... But we love him anyway! Wow. The lengths to which you will go to avoid admitting that gays terrify you is astounding. You have serious issues.
Alaska Darin Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Wow. The lengths to which you will go to avoid admitting that gays terrify you is astounding. You have serious issues. Let him go. He does his best work when he openly admits he's winning.
Booster4324 Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Let him go. He does his best work when he openly admits he's winning. Sort of like Ocin in that way.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Wow. The lengths to which you will go to avoid admitting that gays terrify you is astounding. You have serious issues. They don't scare me. Really. What a bunch of dolts you are. The argument you are using is the one Israel uses when people speak out against that country's policy: "Speak out against our policy? Then that must mean you want to kill all Jews!" Get a new act... It is getting old.
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