High Mark Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 ...Was graded out as the 3rd best safety in the league by Pro Football Focus http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...&numgames=1 Now I have no idea how they do their grading, but at least IMO George Wilson was our best player on the D last season second maybe K. Williams. I know most people see Byrds 9 plays that resulted in interceptions, but play for play G. Wilson was a total stud last season. I fully expect him to start this season - something other fans Im sure gawk at. From reading these forums I dont think many other posters think as highly of GW as I do, so I just wanted to post that link. PS I would LOVE to see our nickle package include Byrd/Wilson/Whitner again this year instead of a third CB - we used that a lot last year with the injuries but I think it worked very well.
boyst Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 It is the total coverage that makes those INT's. We are changing in 2010 but if we can still get Byrd to find those balls while having our DB's keep their coverage than we will continue to post a dominate backfield. George Wilson is key to our defensive pass protection and I cannot be more proud that we have the senator.
dfwbillsfan Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 ...Was graded out as the 3rd best safety in the league by Pro Football Focus http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...&numgames=1 Now I have no idea how they do their grading, but at least IMO George Wilson was our best player on the D last season second maybe K. Williams. I know most people see Byrds 9 plays that resulted in interceptions, but play for play G. Wilson was a total stud last season. I fully expect him to start this season - something other fans Im sure gawk at. From reading these forums I dont think many other posters think as highly of GW as I do, so I just wanted to post that link. PS I would LOVE to see our nickle package include Byrd/Wilson/Whitner again this year instead of a third CB - we used that a lot last year with the injuries but I think it worked very well. Could someone please tell us what Madden thinks of this?
Mr. WEO Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 It's only because Whitner wasn't being utilized properly.
QB Bills Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 It's only because Whitner wasn't being utilized properly. Exactly. And if he's doing anything else other than filling up water bottles on the sidelines this year, he'll still have that problem.
Skoobydum Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Exactly. And if he's doing anything else other than filling up water bottles on the sidelines this year, he'll still have that problem. We need him to step up this year and hit like a sledgehammer on every play, when he gets his shots.
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Could someone please tell us what Madden thinks of this? From ESPN.go, the Madden 11 overall ratings for our DBs J. Byrd FS 87 McGee CB 83 Whitner SS 83 McKelvin CB 81 Scott SS 80 Wilson FS 72 Florence CB 68 Youboty CB 65 Corner CB 63 Lankster CB 61
Spiderweb Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Could someone please tell us what Madden thinks of this? It would be great if no one ever brought up "Madden" again with respect to the Bills, and the evaluation of their talent. But then again, old timers could begin to bring up Strat-o-matic Football ratings (for those who might have played the game when they were young). For crying out loud, they're games first and foremost!
SuperKillerRobots Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 ...Was graded out as the 3rd best safety in the league by Pro Football Focus http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...&numgames=1 Now I have no idea how they do their grading, but at least IMO George Wilson was our best player on the D last season second maybe K. Williams. I know most people see Byrds 9 plays that resulted in interceptions, but play for play G. Wilson was a total stud last season. I fully expect him to start this season - something other fans Im sure gawk at. From reading these forums I dont think many other posters think as highly of GW as I do, so I just wanted to post that link. PS I would LOVE to see our nickle package include Byrd/Wilson/Whitner again this year instead of a third CB - we used that a lot last year with the injuries but I think it worked very well. I've seen a few write-ups that claim something similar to this. Don't get me wrong, I liek Wilson and thought he had a hell of a year last year, but I'd take either of Whitner or Scott on the field before Wilson unless you knew it was going to be a pass. Wilson is a fine player, but something tells me that if he started and the offense had some film on him, he wouldn't look as good as he did last year. Maybe I'm wrong... I do agree that I'd love to see Byrd/Whitner/Wilson in the sub package, but for the most part I think the guys in our secondary are good to the point that it doesn't really matter which of the top 7 or 8 players go in the sub package. To the idea of sub packages, I think to be effective this year on defense, they are going to have to put players in position to succeed based on what they do best situationally. By that I mean that if Wilson plays the pass really well, along with Byrd in centerfield, then he should play in obvious passing downs instead of whoever the "starter" is. This goes the same for all different situations and all the players. Back to your point in the original post about who should start, I don't think it'll make any difference because they'll all play. I would love to see the defense be ballsy enough to change the lineup slightly from week to week depending on who we were playing and what their strengths are (i.e. outcoaching someone for a change).
DDD Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 It's only because Whitner wasn't being utilized properly.
Fingon Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Here's what, you know, actual scouts think of George Wilson: 2009 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc. Grade: 55 | Key Comment: Wilson has provided valuable depth to the Bills' safety position. He has good size, strength and power, but is only an above-average athlete. He is a better run-defender than coverage player because he doesn't have great burst or lateral agility to play man coverage. However, he does have decent range out of centerfield in run support. Wilson leverages the ball well and is a solid wrap tackler with pop and power on contact. He is decent when blitzing, but may be best filling the alley or playing zone coverage in the deep half. Wilson is also a solid special teams contributor and doesn't appear to have enough tools to develop into a starter. His size, toughness and instincts make him valuable on the free-agent market, but only as a backup.
Hossage Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 George Wilson is a smart player. That is the reason he is effective.
reddogblitz Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 I've been a huge Mr. Wilson fan since he picked off that pass against Tony Romo in the 1st quarter and waltzed it in for a TD on MNF. Unfortunatley Trent returned the favor in the second half.
Doc Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 It's only because Whitner wasn't being utilized properly. More like because Wilson wasn't the 8th overall pick.
eball Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 From ESPN.go, the Madden 11 overall ratings for our DBs J. Byrd FS 87 McGee CB 83 Whitner SS 83 McKelvin CB 81 Scott SS 80 Wilson FS 72 Florence CB 68 Youboty CB 65 Corner CB 63 Lankster CB 61 Like-a-um, like-a-um, like-a-um, like-a-um, these rankings are horseshit.
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Like-a-um, like-a-um, like-a-um, like-a-um, these rankings are horseshit. More importantly, have I mentioned to you that you have one of the greatest avatar's of all time?
BillsGuyInMalta Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Oh my God, what does this mean? He's so vivid...on the field...
billrooter Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 I've seen a few write-ups that claim something similar to this. Don't get me wrong, I liek Wilson and thought he had a hell of a year last year, but I'd take either of Whitner or Scott on the field before Wilson unless you knew it was going to be a pass. Wilson is a fine player, but something tells me that if he started and the offense had some film on him, he wouldn't look as good as he did last year. Maybe I'm wrong... You could very well be right but in my opinion Wilson looked better than Donte has ever looked, with far less playing time, and he deserves a right to challenge for the spot!
Estelle Getty Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 It's only because Whitner wasn't being utilized properly. No its because he Sucks
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