T master Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Bleacher Report AFC East section read about the man --- the myth -- that is-- Doug Flutie !!! And it's all true !!
transient Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Bleacher Report AFC East section read about the man --- the myth -- that is-- Doug Flutie !!! And it's all true !!  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/422205-...ack-doug-flutie  For those who desire to waste the minute or so it takes to read this less than objective opinion piece. I wonder how long it took the author to get the scent of Flutie's bung out of his nostrils.
FluffHead Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Besides the fact that it is completely biased, that article looks like it was written by a third grader. Â And I was a Flutie fan fwiw
transient Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Besides the fact that it is completely biased, that article looks like it was written by a third grader. And I was a Flutie fan fwiw  That would explain the inaccuracies, such as Wade Philips being fired for the QB decision, when any Bills fan who was past the point of sentient development could have told you it was for not firing that dolt Ronnie Jones the season after the music city miracle. Doh!!
hondo in seattle Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 My recollection of Flutie is something like this... Â He plays like sh*t for 3 quarters but the defense keeps us in the game. But then Flutie suddenly gets accurate in the 4th quarter and scrambles like a demon, leading the Bills to a last minute TD and a 17-14 victory. Â The 4th quarter heroics could never quite make me forget the 3 quarters of abysmal quarterbacking. Â To say this another way... I'm still saving my Kelly Krunch but my box of Flutie Flakes was eaten and discarded a long time ago.
GoBillsDB Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 That would explain the inaccuracies, such as Wade Philips being fired for the QB decision, when any Bills fan who was past the point of sentient development could have told you it was for not firing that dolt Ronnie Jones the season after the music city miracle. Doh!! Â Actually, our current ST coach, Bruce Dehaven, was fired for the Music City Disaster. Ronnie Jones was his replacement. He had never coached ST before then and was brutally awful. You did get the part right about Wade being fired because he refused to dump Jones. Though, you might consider getting your facts completely right before bashing somebody for not having their facts right.
PromoTheRobot Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 My recollection of Flutie was he was done as soon as the rest of the NFL had the book on him. Defenders stopped biting on his "pixie hop" move when he passed and it was all over. Â PTR
....lybob Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 My recollection of Flutie was he was done as soon as the rest of the NFL had the book on him. Defenders stopped biting on his "pixie hop" move when he passed and it was all over. PTR  I have the exact same recollection.
johnnychemo Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Actually, our current ST coach, Bruce Dehaven, was fired for the Music City Disaster. Ronnie Jones was his replacement. He had never coached ST before then and was brutally awful. You did get the part right about Wade being fired because he refused to dump Jones. Though, you might consider getting your facts completely right before bashing somebody for not having their facts right. Â Â You're both wrong. Wade was fired because he didn't wear headphones!
transient Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Actually, our current ST coach, Bruce Dehaven, was fired for the Music City Disaster. Ronnie Jones was his replacement. He had never coached ST before then and was brutally awful. You did get the part right about Wade being fired because he refused to dump Jones. Though, you might consider getting your facts completely right before bashing somebody for not having their facts right. Â Reread my post. I said he was fired for not firing Ronnie Jones the season after the music city miracle, not following the music city miracle itself, essentially the same as what you said when you were incorrect to correct me. As far as bashing, it was in agreement with the post I referenced that the article was pretty poor. Despite your historical accuracy, your comments about getting facts straight are somewhat ironic.
Malazan Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 In the 1999 playoff game against the Tennessee Titans, Flutie was benched for the younger Rob Johnson. This move would eventually lead to the Music City Miracle and the dismissal of Coach Wade Phillips. Â Wow, insanely misinformed.
Spiderweb Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 My recollection of Flutie is something like this... He plays like sh*t for 3 quarters but the defense keeps us in the game. But then Flutie suddenly gets accurate in the 4th quarter and scrambles like a demon, leading the Bills to a last minute TD and a 17-14 victory.  The 4th quarter heroics could never quite make me forget the 3 quarters of abysmal quarterbacking.  To say this another way... I'm still saving my Kelly Krunch but my box of Flutie Flakes was eaten and discarded a long time ago.  That is a fairly accurate evaluation of Flutie's 1999 regular season performance. Had he achieved some of 1998 successes, he never would have been benched. What carried the Bills in 1999 was the defense, plain and simple.  in 1999, Flutie had to have set a record for most passes batted down in a single season. Flutie was forced by the opposing defenses to be a pocket passer and he simply wasn't good at it.
transient Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 My recollection of Flutie was he was done as soon as the rest of the NFL had the book on him. Defenders stopped biting on his "pixie hop" move when he passed and it was all over. PTR  IIRC (which has already been called in to question this evening, so take it for what it's worth) that book was authored by Belichick* as DC of the Jets on a Monday night. As soon as defenses stopped chasing him and started sitting on short and intermediate routes the so-called magic died.
SwampD Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 My recollection of Flutie is something like this... He plays like sh*t for 3 quarters but the defense keeps us in the game. But then Flutie suddenly gets accurate in the 4th quarter and scrambles like a demon, leading the Bills to a last minute TD and a 17-14 victory.  The 4th quarter heroics could never quite make me forget the 3 quarters of abysmal quarterbacking.  To say this another way... I'm still saving my Kelly Krunch but my box of Flutie Flakes was eaten and discarded a long time ago. Who cares? After a decade of suck, do we really have the right to question how someone wins?  Winners win. Losers lose. Flutie was a winner with the Bills and got a bum deal in the end.
Cru Jones Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 You know who else loved Doug Flutie??? 1980s Boston Coke dealers, or at least they loved people who bought it for him.
jhood716 Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 to this day it still doesnt make sense to me benching flutie for robosack going into the playoffs and there is no denying to me that we would have been better off keeping fllutie over johnson
Thurman#1 Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 Bleacher Report AFC East section read about the man --- the myth -- that is-- Doug Flutie !!! And it's all true !! Â Â Â At least one thing from that article was dead false. Â "Flutie mania ... around the world." I live in Japan, and I can tell you that maybe ... maybe ... one out of every hundred thousand Japanese had even heard the name, much less was a maniac. Â I liked Flutie. I just wish we had gotten him a year or two earlier, because just as we got him and the team got good, his arm wore out. It was a shame. Once he lost that bit of zip, the Belichick defense started working against him ... don't bother to defend long outs or the deep routes because he can't get it there anymore.
reddogblitz Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 My recollection of Flutie Edwards was he was done as soon as the rest of the NFL had the book on him. Defenders stopped biting on his "pixie hop" move when he passed and it was all over. Defenders crammed 8 men in the box and took away the patented Captain Checkdown dumpoff. And starting RJ over Flutie goes down as probably the biggest "shoot self in foot" in all of Bills history. Still boggles the mind, but oh well. Go BILLs !!!
Glory Bound Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 And starting RJ over Flutie goes down as probably the biggest "shoot self in foot" in all of Bills history. Still boggles the mind, but oh well. Go BILLs !!! I've heard the word "gamer" applied to football players all my life. I tried to find the definition of "gamer" but couldn't...so I'll make one up. If anybody wants to tweak it...great. A player who would trade their paycheck for the week & a short hospital stay for the victory. My vivid football QB memories start with Joe Ferguson. Including him, I would say we've had two "gamers" for QB's ...Kelly & Flutie. Even in defeat, you always felt they gave you a chance. They put it all on the line. I wanted to put Phillips in a choke hold for his decision in starting Johnson in the Tenn game. Any coach who benches a gamer & starts a pretty boy in a playoff game deserves to lose...if for no other reason than stupidity.
Doc Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 My recollection of Flutie was he was done as soon as the rest of the NFL had the book on him. Defenders stopped biting on his "pixie hop" move when he passed and it was all over. The stats bear that out. The Bills' offense averaged 25 PPG in 1998 and then 20 PPG in 1999. The defense however went from 20.8 PPG allowed in 1998 to 14.3 in 1999.
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