prissythecat Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 Link to CNNSI article So how does this rule work with the Bills QBs?
Mr. ChumChums Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 This is how. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?showtopic=115479
Haven Moses Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 28 60 Start building that Fitz wing in the HOF.
billsfan89 Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 Football Prospectus had a stat of what correlates to success from college to the NFL. 1- Accuracy if they can't complete 60% of their passes in college what makes you think they are going to improve in the NFL. 2- Games Started- They said 30 starts in college if they can stay healthy and get 3 seasons of college experience they will likely stay healthy and have consistency in the NFL. 3- Improvement in accuracy- Another lesser know stat is more starting equating to being better accuracy. Because having the ability to improve with more action would mean a likely improvement with more time seen in the NFL.
....lybob Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 except for Edwards being a couple starts short all our QBs qualify, who knew we were so loaded at QB
1B4IDie Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 Football Prospectus had a stat of what correlates to success from college to the NFL. 1- Accuracy if they can't complete 60% of their passes in college what makes you think they are going to improve in the NFL. 2- Games Started- They said 30 starts in college if they can stay healthy and get 3 seasons of college experience they will likely stay healthy and have consistency in the NFL. 3- Improvement in accuracy- Another lesser know stat is more starting equating to being better accuracy. Because having the ability to improve with more action would mean a likely improvement with more time seen in the NFL. I think there was a caveat around this that Lopez and everyone else if forgetting. The study that Football Prospectus did only looked at 1st round QBs maybe 1&2nd round QBs. There are a ton of college QBs that meet the general rule, but they noticed the difference between High Round Busts and High Round Booms were the High Round Booms met the 26-27-60 rule. The High Round Busts did not. The commonalities are meant to be used to determine High Round Busts not to determine successful QBs drafted in later rounds or undrafted.
Thoner7 Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 Thats a good rule in theory. The problems seem to be relating the scores to football. A) Dont confuse a high wonderlic score for the ability to read the defense, or vica versa B) Dont let the poor (or great) talent of a players college team distort the win stat C) Dont confuse completion % with accuracy. That seems to be the biggest makes to me. Lots of completed TD passes in college are interceptions in the pros. Balls have to routinely be on the money in a very very small window. Also the player has to be able to read the D on his own - not look over to the sideline for signals. And dont overlook the talent level of a player, and confuse that with the talent around him.
Meathead Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 This is how. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?showtopic=115479 true but thats still a total fail of a thread title
H2o Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 Someone check Locker's completion percentage. We don't have the Wonderlic score just yet.
BuffOrange Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 Someone check Locker's completion percentage. It's not good.
MattyT Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 The "rule" doesn't work. It's all horseshit made up by sportswriters with nothing better to do now that MLB is the only major sport going.
stuckincincy Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 The "rule" doesn't work. It's all horsesh*t made up by sportswriters with nothing better to do now that MLB is the only major sport going. Be quiet...
BuffOrange Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 The "rule" doesn't work. It's all horseshit made up by sportswriters with nothing better to do now that MLB is the only major sport going. No. As mentioned a few posts up, Football Outsiders came up with a variation several years ago.
MattyT Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 No. As mentioned a few posts up, Football Outsiders came up with a variation several years ago. ...and yet it's still horseshit.
clearwater cadet Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 pretty cool, I wonder if it works. I still think Brohm the starter.
Commander Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 Here's how our QB's stack up: Name Wonderlic Starts Completion Percentage Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 28 60 Trent Edwards 31 31 56.3 Brian Brohm 32 33 65.8 Levi Brown 28 24 61.2 The only ones who didn't meet the criteria was Trent (completion %) and Levi (starts). However, Levi Brown played in many more games than he started.
BuffOrange Posted July 10, 2010 Posted July 10, 2010 ...and yet it's still horseshit. If you say so it must be true.
disco Posted July 10, 2010 Posted July 10, 2010 I don't understand how they got to 26-27-60. They MUST have needed to use 27 instead of 26 (26-26-60) rule to eliminate some schlub right? But based on their charts i don't see it. Does it just sound more interesting to say 26-27-60?
milehiLou Posted July 10, 2010 Posted July 10, 2010 pretty cool, I wonder if it works. I still think Brohm the starter. based on the three points he put up last season, yeah maybe
Hossage Posted July 10, 2010 Posted July 10, 2010 25-27-60? Even white boys got to shout. Bills got back.
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