Leonidas Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 How can one "make a jump" if they haven't "show growth"? That's nonsense. Even if everyone else declined and his standing improved, you wouldn't use the term "made a jump". You are playing a stupid semantic game here to try to win an argument. It's clear Chan thinks he has improved, which is really the point of saying he has "shown growth" or "made a jump". You are correct if you are saying this may mean squat. But don't deny what the HC said. He said it. Did I deny that Chan said it? Please point out where I did so I can remove that. Thanks. And you can say whatever you want, but there is a clear distinction between the two. Jamarcus "made a jump" a few weeks ago when he came into camp ready to fight for his job against Campbell and impressed...then that stopped, he sucked again, and is now in jail. No one went as far as to say he was "showing growth." "Showing growth" implies continuous improvement and expected further development. "He's made a jump" - and more importantly, "We'll have to see how he progresses once we get pads on and all that" - implies no such expectation of further improvement, but more of a cautious optimism of such. If you can't see the difference then I can't help you.
judman Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 "Peter Schmuck of ‘The Baltimore Sun’ believes that it could help all parties involved" What a Schmuck! HA!
drg2021 Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 How can one "make a jump" if they haven't "show growth"? That's nonsense. Even if everyone else declined and his standing improved, you wouldn't use the term "made a jump". You are playing a stupid semantic game here to try to win an argument. It's clear Chan thinks he has improved, which is really the point of saying he has "shown growth" or "made a jump". You are correct if you are saying this may mean squat. But don't deny what the HC said. He said it. It says he has made a jump not anyhing about showing growth.For all we know Chan could have been implying Brohm made a jump off of a cliff.
CarolinaBill Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 Why, because he says he has? Please. No, because our HC said as much at the end of otas/minicamps. Go look it up
Sabre Bill Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 aaaahhhhh, early July . . . arguing about the HC's meaning when he uses such concrete language as "made a jump" . . . makes me miss the local pub back in WNY . . . moving to the midwest has really helped my blood pressure . . .
Alphadawg7 Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 Did I deny that Chan said it? Please point out where I did so I can remove that. Thanks. And you can say whatever you want, but there is a clear distinction between the two. Jamarcus "made a jump" a few weeks ago when he came into camp ready to fight for his job against Campbell and impressed...then that stopped, he sucked again, and is now in jail. No one went as far as to say he was "showing growth." "Showing growth" implies continuous improvement and expected further development. "He's made a jump" - and more importantly, "We'll have to see how he progresses once we get pads on and all that" - implies no such expectation of further improvement, but more of a cautious optimism of such. If you can't see the difference then I can't help you. Dude, you are just being argumentive to be argumentive. Its clear as day that Brohm is clearly in the running for the #1 spot and that Chan feels like he has improved as it is well documented. The lame argument over the difference in the words "shown growth" or "made a jump" is comical that it has taken up half a page worth of posts. Clearly Chan is referring to Brohm and his development when he said he has made a jump, which means the same thing as he has shown growth...but go ahead, keep arguing a pointless point because clearly thats your goal here...
bruceisloose78 Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 I hate all Buckeyes Past @ present!! And we all hate you
dwight in philly Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 profootballtalk.com says philly is interested in him, will be cutting vick..
stuckincincy Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 shoot the friggin messenger ferchrissakes OK...bang!
Beerball Posted July 7, 2010 Author Posted July 7, 2010 OK...bang! Yeah, can we please get back to bashing me? People fighting over what Chan meant when he said XXXXXXX is rediculous.
Alphadawg7 Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 Yeah, can we please get back to bashing me? People fighting over what Chan meant when he said XXXXXXX is rediculous. lol...one, my OP wasnt a bash on you and 100% bash on the reporter Two...I was shocked to come back to thread and find a page and a half debate on the meaning of Chans words which were pretty obvious to begin with...then again, I dont know why I was shocked considering who it was and the fact it was on this board...lol
Nanker Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 shoot the friggin messenger ferchrissakes Don't get down on the negativity man. It's a bummer.
SpecialK15 Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 I really wouldn't mind seeing what Troy could do in Buffalo. However, I think it's just adding more of what we have at the QB position. They keep talking about Heisman trophy winner Troy Smith, but that doesn't mean much. Just look at what Matt Leinart has done in Arizona so far. Why don't they add him and have two Heisman winners under center to compete.
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 Do we ever know if Smith will better than Fitz? Because I think the best case scenario is Smith is Fitz with a darker skin color. He is completely overrated because of his college experience. The more he plays in the pros, the less impressive you would become.
jj____ Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 zzzzzz why would buffalo trade for a quarterback thats going to get cut anyway
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 I really wouldn't mind seeing what Troy could do in Buffalo. However, I think it's just adding more of what we have at the QB position. They keep talking about Heisman trophy winner Troy Smith, but that doesn't mean much. Just look at what Matt Leinart has done in Arizona so far. Why don't they add him and have two Heisman winners under center to compete. This discussion has been going on for five pages now. It's still active. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?showtopic=115183
transient Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 This discussion has been going on for five pages now. It's still active. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?showtopic=115183 I could make a jump to that thread, but I don't know if it would mean I've shown growth, so I'm gonna stick around here for a while and see if I can't figure it out.
transient Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 zzzzzz why would buffalo trade for a quarterback thats going to get cut anyway We could always trade for him, rename him LenDale White, then cut him.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 I could make a jump to that thread, but I don't know if it would mean I've shown growth, so I'm gonna stick around here for a while and see if I can't figure it out. I might be forced to create a poll for that debate.
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