Uhh Ohh Obama....

[pBills]

False choice. Reading comprehension is important. Clearly you need to re-read my words again.

 

The guy is not a leader, he has had his chances, and he has failed. NOW, I am saying we shouldn't let him try anything else, because he has failed miserably as a leader BEFORE NOW.

 

Thus, I don't EXPECT HIM to take charge of the oil spill. I would love it if he did, but I don't expect it. In no case, THEN OR NOW, do I welcome him deferring his leadership role. I have said that consistently, whether it's Health Care, Iran, you name it. I have never said he should defer his role, anywhere, ever, and I won't unless we need to get serious about impeachment or resignation. He is the President, for Pete's sake.

 

That has nothing to do with whatever comes next. If he can't or won't fix the oil spill, than yeah, I don't think any sane/reasonable person should support him going off and starting some new major initiative. All indications are that they are done until the mid-term elections....which I have to say is a good thing.

 

Let's see if they can do simple tasks, like understanding NASA's job, before we try the harder stuff. Fine job of setting priorities there, huh? Is this what you learned in your leadership training? Making one department do another department's job? Is this some kind of jackass cross-training exercise? Go ahead and take all the time, and your supposed leadership ability, you need to explain how making Muslims feel good about themselves is ever, in any world, NASA's #1 priority.

 

I do find it funny that you said he has had his chances... I find it hard to believe that you would ever believe in him as a President no matter what he does. I'm sure he understands NASA's mission. Yet, was looking for a way to expand it.

 

Either way, I am kind of glad that the space shuttle program has ended. At least for now. No reason to spend all of that money right now, when it could be used somewhere else.

[IDBillzFan]

I No reason to spend all of that money right now, when it could be used somewhere else.

Like helping Muslims feel good about themselves. 'Cuz that's obviously an area that NASA can serve well. And, I mean, all that NASA money is just sitting there doing nothing.

[pBills]

Like helping Muslims feel good about themselves. 'Cuz that's obviously an area that NASA can serve well. And, I mean, all that NASA money is just sitting there doing nothing.

 

Two things... 1) I wouldn't doubt Fox News did some cleaver editing. 2) It never hurts to show a group of people how they have contributed to science or anything else. Just another way (granted not a good one in this case) of getting people engaged, talking to each other.

 

Ultimately NASA was a waste of money. Yes, unbelievable things have come through their efforts, at the same those explorations are just not needed right now.

[pBills]

Bolden said his mission to the Muslim world is a “matter of trying to reach out and try to get the best of all worlds.” No nation will make it to Mars on its own, he said.

 

NASA assistant administrator for public affairs Bob Jacobs told ABC News that “Administrator Bolden understands that NASA's core mission is exploration, both in space and in scientific endeavors here at home. Inherent to the success of that mission is cooperation and collaboration with other nations which are equally committed to this effort, including expanding the range of countries with which NASA engages and partners.”

 

In response to criticism, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said in a statement that “The President has always said that he wants NASA to engage with the world’s best scientists and engineers as we work together to push the boundaries of exploration. Meeting that mandate requires NASA to partner with countries around the world like Russia and Japan, as well as collaboration with Israel and with many Muslim-majority countries. The space race began as a global competition, but, today, it is a global collaboration.”

[IDBillzFan]

Two things... 1) I wouldn't doubt Fox News did some cleaver editing. 2) It never hurts to show a group of people how they have contributed to science or anything else. Just another way (granted not a good one in this case) of getting people engaged, talking to each other.

 

Ultimately NASA was a waste of money. Yes, unbelievable things have come through their efforts, at the same those explorations are just not needed right now.

Just a matter of time before someone suggests that Fox News edited the full video shown on Al Jazeera.

 

Here's the interview directly from Al Jazeera to make you feel better.

 

And of course there's nothing wrong with making a group of people feel better about themselves, but the "FOREMOST" priority of NASA?

 

Not even you can think that's a good idea.

[Joe Miner]

Ultimately NASA was a waste of money. Yes, unbelievable things have come through their efforts, at the same those explorations are just not needed right now.

 

I think you have NASA confused with Unions.

[pBills]

Just a matter of time before someone suggests that Fox News edited the full video shown on Al Jazeera.

 

Here's the interview directly from Al Jazeerato make you feel better.

 

And of course there's nothing wrong with making a group of people feel better about themselves, but the "FOREMOST" priority of NASA?

 

Not even you can think that's a good idea.

 

 

I just placed a new post... go ahead and read the quotes.

[OCinBuffalo]

I do find it funny that you said he has had his chances... I find it hard to believe that you would ever believe in him as a President no matter what he does. I'm sure he understands NASA's mission. Yet, was looking for a way to expand it.

 

Either way, I am kind of glad that the space shuttle program has ended. At least for now. No reason to spend all of that money right now, when it could be used somewhere else.

I honestly thought that when I was hearing about comprehensive health care reform, that meant, comprehensive health care reform.

 

I have consulted 2 large(10k+ employees) health insurance companies and I am fully aware of their abuses, both because I helped build some of the systems they use to carry out said abuses, and, I was told, by the highest level, not to do my best work at one of them, because it would limit their ability to deny claims. I looked forward to Obama getting after them, as well as the lawyers, doctors, nurses, and yes, even the patients themselves. Nobody is "right" when it comes to health care, hence, comprehensive reform is needed.

 

And what did we end up with? Giving it to Congress and fixing maybe 20% of what is wrong, based purely on politics? WTF? I was honestly shocked by Obama letting the partisan hacks lead, after what HE said during the campaign.

 

I was fully willing to give Obama a chance, until he let the Iran thing slip away, and then the Health Care mess. See, I am not a D-bag Leftist, that would go after Bush for everything and anything. That's what you guys do. I prefer to look at things rationally, based on what I have been taught and my experience. You Blamed Bush for 9/11. I blame Obama for things that are actually his fault, based on his choices, not the choices of others.

[pBills]

I honestly thought that when I was hearing about comprehensive health care reform, that meant, comprehensive health care reform.

 

I have consulted 2 large(10k+ employees) health insurance companies and I am fully aware of their abuses, both because I helped build some of the systems they use to carry out said abuses, and, I was told, by the highest level, not to do my best work at one of them, because it would limit their ability to deny claims. I looked forward to Obama getting after them, as well as the lawyers, doctors, nurses, and yes, even the patients themselves. Nobody is "right" when it comes to health care, hence, comprehensive reform is needed.

 

And what did we end up with? Giving it to Congress and fixing maybe 20% of what is wrong, based purely on politics? WTF? I was honestly shocked at what came from Obama after what he said during the campaign.

 

I was fully willing to give Obama a chance, until he let the Iran thing slip away, and then the Health Care mess. See, I am not a D-bag Leftist, that would go after Bush for everything and anything. That's what you guys do. I prefer to look at things rationally, based on what I have been taught and my experience. You Blame Bush for 9/11. I blame Obama for things that are actually his fault, based on his choices, not the choices of others.

 

 

Of course Congress F'd it up. That happens no matter who has the majority.. Democrat or Republican. What Iran thing did he let slip away?

 

In regards to the blame Bush for everything comment... that's not what I do. I put the blame where it should be. If Obama messed he messed up. I don't blame him for problems that started under Bush's watch. I will also admit that he has messed up some things, such as Healthcare. I like the fact that they passed something, personally I think they didn't do enough. I just laugh when people blame Obama for the Gulf and other items like that. Just cracks me up. Hence my post earlier saying that the heat wave would be blamed on Obama.

[OCinBuffalo]

Bolden said his mission to the Muslim world is a “matter of trying to reach out and try to get the best of all worlds.” No nation will make it to Mars on its own, he said.

 

NASA assistant administrator for public affairs Bob Jacobs told ABC News that “Administrator Bolden understands that NASA's core mission is exploration, both in space and in scientific endeavors here at home. Inherent to the success of that mission is cooperation and collaboration with other nations which are equally committed to this effort, including expanding the range of countries with which NASA engages and partners.”

 

In response to criticism, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said in a statement that “The President has always said that he wants NASA to engage with the world’s best scientists and engineers as we work together to push the boundaries of exploration. Meeting that mandate requires NASA to partner with countries around the world like Russia and Japan, as well as collaboration with Israel and with many Muslim-majority countries. The space race began as a global competition, but, today, it is a global collaboration.”

Uhh, but these are all RESPONSES to what Fox News quoted. These were his own words, in full paragraph form. These responses are an attempt to put a de facto spin on the matter. Surely you can see that?

[pBills]

Uhh, but these are all RESPONSES to what Fox News quoted. These were his own words, in full paragraph form. These responses are an attempt to put a de facto spin on the matter. Surely you can see that?

 

 

Are you saying that FOX had the correct report? They didn't put any spin on it?

[OCinBuffalo]

Of course Congress F'd it up. That happens no matter who has the majority.. Democrat or Republican. What Iran thing did he let slip away?

 

In regards to the blame Bush for everything comment... that's not what I do. I put the blame where it should be. If Obama messed he messed up. I don't blame him for problems that started under Bush's watch. I will also admit that he has messed up some things, such as Healthcare. I like the fact that they passed something, personally I think they didn't do enough. I just laugh when people blame Obama for the Gulf and other items like that. Just cracks me up. Hence my post earlier saying that the heat wave would be blamed on Obama.

I don't blame Obama for the oil spill. Clearly that is BP losing billions trying to "save" millions.

 

I blame him for completely f'ing up the response to it. I blame him for not getting the bureaucrats out of the way of the governors. This were clearly things he could have done, and any of us would have done, and he failed to lead the people he directly commands, as part of the Executive Branch.

 

I blame him for, once again, just like health care and Iran, not solving problems as a rational person, but as an irrational Daily Kos, Micheal Moore, lying, bat-schit crazy ideologue.

[OCinBuffalo]

Are you saying that FOX had the correct report? They didn't put any spin on it?

I am saying that the article is a hard news piece. Clearly that's what it is.

 

I don't see Hannity's/O'Reilly's/Beck's name on it anywhere.

 

You must realize that Fox is really 2 separate outfits, hard news, and then opinion. The difference is, unlike the NY Times, they actually make an effort to keep the 2 separate. They don't always succeed, but they aren't purposely distorting hard news. And besides, if you listen to Tom, you will realize that the "hard" news group is more about putting hot women on their air and having them report car chases, than anything else

[pBills]

I am saying that the article is a hard news piece. Clearly that's what it is.

 

I don't see Hannity's/O'Reilly's/Beck's name on it anywhere.

 

You must realize that Fox is really 2 separate outfits, hard news, and then opinion. The difference is, unlike the NY Times, they actually make an effort to keep the 2 separate. They don't always succeed, but they aren't purposely distorting hard news.

 

 

I understand that FOX portrays itself as having 2 separate outfits... just don't believe it. Sorry.

[OCinBuffalo]

What Iran thing did he let slip away?

The fact that you don't know, only serves to underscore the bias that is in the media.

 

Perhaps you should look it up on Fox's web site? You know, actually get some hard news?

[OCinBuffalo]

I understand that FOX portrays itself as having 2 separate outfits... just don't believe it. Sorry.

Nah, you won't believe it. That's a choice, based on politics, and not empirical evidence.

 

I don't remember Fox getting the Duke Lacrosse case wrong, when every other media outlet had already sentenced the players to 15-20. But, they only did that because they are racist, right?

[pBills]

The fact that you don't know, only serves to underscore the bias that is in the media.

 

Perhaps you should look it up on Fox's web site? You know, actually get some hard news?

 

 

You can believe in FOX News, I don't simple as that.

 

So what was the Iran thing that Obama let slip away?

[DC Tom]

And besides, if you listen to Tom, you will realize that the "hard" news group is more about putting hot women on their air

 

And I want to stress: I am in complete agreement with that editorial decision.

[....lybob]

Iran Must Be Stopped

By Bradley Blakeman

Published February 17, 2010 | FOXNews.com

 

President Obama came to power believing that he unilaterally could disarm Iran with his charm and conciliatory demeanor. He was wrong.

 

The president’s naiveté has given the Iranian government time to step up their nuclear weapons technology and crackdown on pro-democracy dissidents.

 

Last fall, President Obama held a press conference and announced that Iran was in fact well on their way to building a second uranium-enrichment plant. This was a significant announcement and proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Iran, in complete defiance of international law, is well on its way to building a nuclear weapon.

 

After his announcement did the president call for an emergency U.N. Security Council Meeting? Did he see to it that the most severe sanctions should be brought to bear on the Iranian government? No, he did not. He simply has called for more dialogue. Well, talk is cheap. The president squandered the perfect opportunity to lead the world in stopping Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

 

Why did the president let the perfect forum to bring the Iranians to task before the world community slip away? Isn’t that what the Security Council is supposed to be for? Is nuclear proliferation by rogue regimes not important enough to convene the Council? The president most surely knew all the facts.

 

This should have been debated, and Iran should have been called before the Security Council to defend itself.

 

The president was intentionally derelict or grossly negligent in this missed opportunity. He had the president of Iran in New York. When the president made his announcement this past fall, most of the world leaders who make up the Security Council were at the Opening of the General Assembly in New York. All members of the Security Council should have had their feet put to the fire and either condoned this illegal activity or condemned it and sought serious measures to correct it. Sadly, Obama will turn out to be the Neville Chamberlain of our time.

 

Just this past week Iran’s president boasted defiantly that his country was a nuclear power. I take him at his word.

 

 

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, like Adolf Hitler, is warning the world about his country’s ultimate intentions and his own. Hitler penned "Mein Kampf" in a jail cell. He explained his intentions for the world should he come to power.

 

At the time he wrote "Mein Kampf," Hitler was a prisoner and was not able to make good on his wishful intent. The world chose to ignore his warnings, let him come to power and then let him implement most of his stated goals. The president of Iran is doing the very same thing.

 

Ahmadinejad has told the world all about his ultimate intentions. He seeks the destruction of Israel and of the United States. His country is building the instrumentalities by which he could achieve his goals, while the world sits back and watches. Sixty million people perished during World War II, with weapons far more primitive than can be even be produced today. If lone homicide bombers are willing to sacrifice themselves for religious fanaticism, why then is it beyond the realm of possibility, that a leader is willing to sacrifice millions for the same beliefs?

 

We have seen it before. It has been said that, “If we do not learn from history we are condemned to repeat it.”

 

Truer words were never spoken.

 

Hitler wrote the following words in "Mein Kampf" that have been parroted almost verbatim today by the president of Iran: “I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” How many will needlessly die before we act to stop a repeat of what the world experienced during the time of Hitler?

 

Iran must be stopped, and stopped now. Either other responsible nations will join us or we must do the job alone. We have no choice. We must take these rogues at their word and pay attention to their deeds.

[Alaska Darin]

Iran Must Be Stopped

By Bradley Blakeman

Published February 17, 2010 | FOXNews.com

 

President Obama came to power believing that he unilaterally could disarm Iran with his charm and conciliatory demeanor. He was wrong.

 

The president’s naiveté has given the Iranian government time to step up their nuclear weapons technology and crackdown on pro-democracy dissidents.

 

Last fall, President Obama held a press conference and announced that Iran was in fact well on their way to building a second uranium-enrichment plant. This was a significant announcement and proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Iran, in complete defiance of international law, is well on its way to building a nuclear weapon.

 

After his announcement did the president call for an emergency U.N. Security Council Meeting? Did he see to it that the most severe sanctions should be brought to bear on the Iranian government? No, he did not. He simply has called for more dialogue. Well, talk is cheap. The president squandered the perfect opportunity to lead the world in stopping Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

 

Why did the president let the perfect forum to bring the Iranians to task before the world community slip away? Isn’t that what the Security Council is supposed to be for? Is nuclear proliferation by rogue regimes not important enough to convene the Council? The president most surely knew all the facts.

 

This should have been debated, and Iran should have been called before the Security Council to defend itself.

 

The president was intentionally derelict or grossly negligent in this missed opportunity. He had the president of Iran in New York. When the president made his announcement this past fall, most of the world leaders who make up the Security Council were at the Opening of the General Assembly in New York. All members of the Security Council should have had their feet put to the fire and either condoned this illegal activity or condemned it and sought serious measures to correct it. Sadly, Obama will turn out to be the Neville Chamberlain of our time.

 

Just this past week Iran’s president boasted defiantly that his country was a nuclear power. I take him at his word.

 

 

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, like Adolf Hitler, is warning the world about his country’s ultimate intentions and his own. Hitler penned "Mein Kampf" in a jail cell. He explained his intentions for the world should he come to power.

 

At the time he wrote "Mein Kampf," Hitler was a prisoner and was not able to make good on his wishful intent. The world chose to ignore his warnings, let him come to power and then let him implement most of his stated goals. The president of Iran is doing the very same thing.

 

Ahmadinejad has told the world all about his ultimate intentions. He seeks the destruction of Israel and of the United States. His country is building the instrumentalities by which he could achieve his goals, while the world sits back and watches. Sixty million people perished during World War II, with weapons far more primitive than can be even be produced today. If lone homicide bombers are willing to sacrifice themselves for religious fanaticism, why then is it beyond the realm of possibility, that a leader is willing to sacrifice millions for the same beliefs?

 

We have seen it before. It has been said that, “If we do not learn from history we are condemned to repeat it.”

 

Truer words were never spoken.

 

Hitler wrote the following words in "Mein Kampf" that have been parroted almost verbatim today by the president of Iran: “I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” How many will needlessly die before we act to stop a repeat of what the world experienced during the time of Hitler?

 

Iran must be stopped, and stopped now. Either other responsible nations will join us or we must do the job alone. We have no choice. We must take these rogues at their word and pay attention to their deeds.

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