GrudginglyPessimistic Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Folks its too early to tell with anything approaching certainty (or rationally beyond a glimmer of possibility). In reality there are multiple people to blame for the Bills failure to make the playoffs the past decade (Jauron's bad job does not give a free pass to TD for his screwups and the buck ultimately stopping with Mr. Ralph does not magically change the jobs TD, Jauron or others into adequate jobs. Likewise none of these men gives a free pass to Modrak nor does Modrak or Jphn Guy deserve the full blame. However if one wants to insist on trying to narrow this down to one item to overfocus on, I think there are few other candidates which surpass the Bills consistently over the past decade plus having a central failing of handing the QB starter role to the the "next" designated savior who gets deemed the Bills starter without really earning the job with consistent positive performance on the field. One can reasonably trace a threshold mistake being the horrendous and demonstrably bad football judgment by Mr. Ralph of making a handshake agreement only he could make to ignore the salary cap and promise to reward Jimbo fiscally in his next contract (which never occurred as Jimbo got concussed out of the game, Mr. Ralph had to pay for this judgment error by giving Jimbo a cool million to walk away. The Bills paid for this by the team failing to acquire a replacement for Jimbo a year earlier than when they stretched to take TC in the 2nd round. This was followed by a series of near panic over extensions by rushing TC to start when at the least he needed another year of practice to get the happy feet out of him (if this could actually ever be trained out), Among the highlights over the next decade the team simply gave RJ the job with a huge contract despite this turning the Bills into liars for promising Flutie a chance to compete on the field (an error made salary cap fatal when DF did as we had actually demanded and he hit all of his incentives and we ended up wih 10 mill wrapped into the QB position back when this was real money. We then proceeded to take actions like not simply call it a wash when Blrdsoe had a great first year and crappy second one but we extended him anyway. We then 180 ed on Bledsoe and gave the job to JP when even he said he would do the best he could but had not earned the nod the way he should have on the field, We continue to seem to want to make the same mistake of declaring a new savior. We must not make the same mistake again. Rather than Gailey simply giving in to the impatient whining of some fans to designate the job as Edwards to lose or handing it to the new hope who has not done the job (yet) on the field Brohm, or simply declaring Fitzy as the last starter by choice Fitzy as the #1 who should not lose his job to injury simply waiting as long as possible to even declare a lead candidate is the thing to do. The Bills can profit from deeming a player the #1 when the actual camp starts (if only because the media and some insecure fans are gonna pick the player who gets the most snaps as their next savior whether he deserves it or not). However, what I actually hope happens is that Gailey and the crew know who is gonna be there #2 amd essentially declare a battle between two QB as #1 and #1A battling to start/ While this designation does violate the oft state Marv rule that a team which has two starting QBs actually has no starting QB, quite frankly we do not need to choose a firm starter until after 2 pre-season games. Actually the likely real deal is that the Bills will want to trade one of their two potential best QBs for a quality player to fill one of our other many holes( an OL player or a #2 WR). If we give the starter job to one of these QB prospects too soon we likely are repeating the same error we have made the past decade,
mpl6876 Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Folks its too early to tell with anything approaching certainty (or rationally beyond a glimmer of possibility). In reality there are multiple people to blame for the Bills failure to make the playoffs the past decade (Jauron's bad job does not give a free pass to TD for his screwups and the buck ultimately stopping with Mr. Ralph does not magically change the jobs TD, Jauron or others into adequate jobs. Likewise none of these men gives a free pass to Modrak nor does Modrak or Jphn Guy deserve the full blame. However if one wants to insist on trying to narrow this down to one item to overfocus on, I think there are few other candidates which surpass the Bills consistently over the past decade plus having a central failing of handing the QB starter role to the the "next" designated savior who gets deemed the Bills starter without really earning the job with consistent positive performance on the field. One can reasonably trace a threshold mistake being the horrendous and demonstrably bad football judgment by Mr. Ralph of making a handshake agreement only he could make to ignore the salary cap and promise to reward Jimbo fiscally in his next contract (which never occurred as Jimbo got concussed out of the game, Mr. Ralph had to pay for this judgment error by giving Jimbo a cool million to walk away. The Bills paid for this by the team failing to acquire a replacement for Jimbo a year earlier than when they stretched to take TC in the 2nd round. This was followed by a series of near panic over extensions by rushing TC to start when at the least he needed another year of practice to get the happy feet out of him (if this could actually ever be trained out), Among the highlights over the next decade the team simply gave RJ the job with a huge contract despite this turning the Bills into liars for promising Flutie a chance to compete on the field (an error made salary cap fatal when DF did as we had actually demanded and he hit all of his incentives and we ended up wih 10 mill wrapped into the QB position back when this was real money. We then proceeded to take actions like not simply call it a wash when Blrdsoe had a great first year and crappy second one but we extended him anyway. We then 180 ed on Bledsoe and gave the job to JP when even he said he would do the best he could but had not earned the nod the way he should have on the field, We continue to seem to want to make the same mistake of declaring a new savior. We must not make the same mistake again. Rather than Gailey simply giving in to the impatient whining of some fans to designate the job as Edwards to lose or handing it to the new hope who has not done the job (yet) on the field Brohm, or simply declaring Fitzy as the last starter by choice Fitzy as the #1 who should not lose his job to injury simply waiting as long as possible to even declare a lead candidate is the thing to do. The Bills can profit from deeming a player the #1 when the actual camp starts (if only because the media and some insecure fans are gonna pick the player who gets the most snaps as their next savior whether he deserves it or not). However, what I actually hope happens is that Gailey and the crew know who is gonna be there #2 amd essentially declare a battle between two QB as #1 and #1A battling to start/ While this designation does violate the oft state Marv rule that a team which has two starting QBs actually has no starting QB, quite frankly we do not need to choose a firm starter until after 2 pre-season games. Actually the likely real deal is that the Bills will want to trade one of their two potential best QBs for a quality player to fill one of our other many holes( an OL player or a #2 WR). If we give the starter job to one of these QB prospects too soon we likely are repeating the same error we have made the past decade, I usually like your post so I decided to read it in it's entirety. Wow, was that long. Your point is well taken about our past Qb situation. The only thing that struck me as a little odd was "Actually the likely real deal is that the Bills will want to trade one of their two potential best QBs for a quality player to fill one of our other many holes( an OL player or a #2 WR. Do you really think any of those guys have trade value?
Thurman#1 Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Actually the likely real deal is that the Bills will want to trade one of their two potential best QBs for a quality player to fill one of our other many holes( an OL player or a #2 WR). I liked your post, except for this part. We aren't going to get anybody good in trade for one of our QBs. A seventh-rounder or something, maybe, but not more.
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