tomdayfan Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 New Census rankings have us as the 70th-largest city in the country Buffalo: the shrinking city
CountDorkula Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 New Census rankings have us as the 70th-largest city in the countryBuffalo: the shrinking city In a sidenote New York was designated the most dysfunctional state in the US. Good Job NYS Government. I think my dog could do better than this.
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 The city is shrinking but it's a little overblown. In the 2000 census (and I would venture it's bigger now), Amherst had 116,000+ people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amherst,_New_York I'd also venture a bunch of other suburbs are bigger than they have ever been. Because of urban sprawl, you have to take stats like this with a grain of salt.
shrader Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 Doesn't the phrase "shrinking AGAIN" imply that it actually stopped shrinking at one point?
Chef Jim Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 The city is shrinking but it's a little overblown. In the 2000 census (and I would venture it's bigger now), Amherst had 116,000+ people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amherst,_New_York I'd also venture a bunch of other suburbs are bigger than they have ever been. Because of urban sprawl, you have to take stats like this with a grain of salt. Good point, but it's wrong.
PromoTheRobot Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 Good point, but it's wrong. That article is dated 2004. PTR
Drifter Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 It sounds a lot worse than it actually is. Buffalo's 270,000 population is located in about 40 square miles. The city of Jacksonville has over 800,00 population. Their size is 874 sq miles. Looking at this list would you think Jacksonville dwarfs Buffalo. Factor in Buffalo's suburbs and they are about equal.
Chef Jim Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 That article is dated 2004. PTR Ok, so it's not so bad.
linksfiend Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 Ok, so it's not so bad. Well considering the US population estimated growth is approximately 1% year, it's still pretty bad.
Lurker Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 Ok, so it's not so bad. It's bad...(per the Census Bureau) ________Est. Erie County____Est.City of Buffalo___Rest of County 2009________909,247_________270,240___________639,007 2008________909,858_________271,220 2007________911,784_________272,492 2006________916,292_________274,740 2005________923,820_________277,998 2004________932,002_________281,757 2003________936,931_________284,612 2002________940,645_________287,139 2001________945,165_________289,657 2000________950,265_________292,648___________657,617 2000-09 ___-41,018________-22,408_________-18,610 ______________-4.3%___________-7.7%____________-2.8% The one thing we can hold out hope for is the 2010 census may show the 2003-09 loss estimates were too high. This happened with the 1990 and 2000 census results, which are more accurate than the intercensal estimates.
shrader Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 It's bad... ________Est. Erie County____Est.City of Buffalo 2009________909,247_________270,240 2008________909,858_________271,220 2007________911,784_________272,492 2006________916,292_________274,740 2005________923,820_________277,998 2004________932,002_________281,757 2003________936,931_________284,612 2002________940,645_________287,139 2001________945,165_________289,657 2000________950,265_________292,648 2000-09 ___-41,018________-22,408 The one thing we can hold out hope for is the 2010 census may show the 2003-09 loss estimates were too high. This happened with the 1990 and 2000 census results, which are more accurate than the intercensal estimates. It looks like the drop has leveled off in the last couple years though. That could be the start of a trend.
Beerball Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 New Census rankings have us as the 70th-largest city in the countryBuffalo: the shrinking city I blame the toothed vaginas.
Chef Jim Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 It looks like the drop has leveled off in the last couple years though. That could be the start of a trend. That was the point of the second article I posted.
Lurker Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 It looks like the drop has leveled off in the last couple years though. That could be the start of a trend. The Great Recession has reduced U.S. household mobility. In WNY's case, that's a good thing since the grass is less green elsewhere (particularly in the southeast or west)... On the other hand, we've got the best commuting time performance of any medium to large U.S. city. Whoo Whooo!
shrader Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 That was the point of the second article I posted. I'll have to read those later, I just don't have the time right now. The trend looks pretty obvious from the numbers though. Now we just need to see if it can last longer than 3 years.
Chef Jim Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 I'll have to read those later, I just don't have the time right now. The trend looks pretty obvious from the numbers though. Now we just need to see if it can last longer than 3 years. I think the recession is keeping more people put than some miraculous WNY turn around.
linksfiend Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 I think the recession is keeping more people put than some miraculous WNY turn around. Damn straight - it would be damn foolish for many to leave the welfare state now for areas with lower benefits.
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 It's bad...(per the Census Bureau) ________Est. Erie County____Est.City of Buffalo___Rest of County 2009________909,247_________270,240___________639,007 2008________909,858_________271,220 2007________911,784_________272,492 2006________916,292_________274,740 2005________923,820_________277,998 2004________932,002_________281,757 2003________936,931_________284,612 2002________940,645_________287,139 2001________945,165_________289,657 2000________950,265_________292,648___________657,617 2000-09 ___-41,018________-22,408_________-18,610 ______________-4.3%___________-7.7%____________-2.8% The one thing we can hold out hope for is the 2010 census may show the 2003-09 loss estimates were too high. This happened with the 1990 and 2000 census results, which are more accurate than the intercensal estimates. Buffalo-Niagara Falls is the 47th ranked metro area. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo-Niaga...tropolitan_area Less than a hour and half away, Rochester has the 51th ranked metro area. Nearly 3 million people between Buffalo and Rochester really isn't that shabby. It would rank about 18th in the country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_Unit...atistical_Areas
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