millbank Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 New York Yankees star Jason Giambi told a federal grand jury that he had injected himself with human growth hormone during the 2003 baseball season and had started using steroids at least two years earlier, The Chronicle has learned. Giambi has publicly denied using performance-enhancing drugs, but his Dec. 11, 2003, testimony in the BALCO steroids case contradicts those statements, according to a transcript of the grand jury proceedings reviewed by The Chronicle. The onetime Oakland A's first baseman and 2000 American League Most Valuable Player testified that in 2003, when he hit 41 home runs for the Yankees, he had used several different steroids obtained from Greg Anderson, weight trainer for San Francisco Giants star Barry Bonds. In his testimony, Giambi described how he had used syringes to inject human growth hormone into his stomach and testosterone into his buttocks. Giambi also said he had taken "undetectable" steroids known as "the clear" and "the cream" -- one a liquid administered by placing a few drops under the tongue, the other a testosterone-based balm rubbed onto the body. Giambi Admits using Steroids
Talonz Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 As Gomer Pyle use to say: "Gollllllllieeeeeee" "Surprise Surprise Surprise"
millbank Posted December 2, 2004 Author Posted December 2, 2004 As Gomer Pyle use to say: "Gollllllllieeeeeee" "Surprise Surprise Surprise" 142294[/snapback] Authors of story are on the fan right now. Its one thing to suspect , its another to have it confirmed... This story becomes even more huge....
Draconator Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Aparantely, Victor Conte, founder and owner of BALCO, has agreed to co-operate with Federal Investigators. He also mentioned that he will be on 20/20, and is going to tell all, name names, etc.
millbank Posted December 2, 2004 Author Posted December 2, 2004 Aparantely, Victor Conte, founder and owner of BALCO, has agreed to co-operate with Federal Investigators. He also mentioned that he will be on 20/20, and is going to tell all, name names, etc. 142303[/snapback] Nedrow asked Jeremy Giambi why he trusted Anderson. "I don't know, I guess -- I mean, you're right," Jeremy Giambi testified. "I probably shouldn't have trusted the guy. But I just felt like, you know, what he had done for Barry and, you know, I didn't think the guy would send me something that was, you know, Drano or something, you know, I mean, I hope he wouldn't." Nedrow suggested Jeremy Giambi probably also trusted Anderson's drugs because his brother had taken them, too. Said Jeremy: "Yeah, and Jason didn't die." very scary......
Thailog80 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 This is going to be the biggest scandel in sports in a long long time.
Thailog80 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 If there is something in his contract that will allow Steinbrenner to dump Giambi because of this.....he will. They have been looking for a reason to void the remaining four years of JG 7yr 120 million dollar deal.
ICE Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 HgH or IGF1 is injected like insulin, into the fat or just under the skin, not intramuscular. That said it is also impossible to test for/detect. They are trying to get Bonds and his record busted.
USMCBillsFan Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 I know JG wasn't honest with the public but at least he told the truth to the grand jury. I'm curious to see who lied to the grand jury.... Bonds.....cough, cough.....
d_wag Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 i hope this keeps barry out of the HOF.......this is much worse then anything rose ever did.......
Corp000085 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Personally, i hope that this thing drags out long enough for BB to break the hr record, then have it come crashing down. This is going to be a long long issue and court battle. We're just getting to the beginning of the real juicy stuff. I guess for JG, he wins out in the long run because he came clean, and apparently he won't use them again. Maybe this will not hurt him, health wise, in the future as it did for others (lyle alzado sp?? for instance). I don't want to say that BB is guilty of taking steroids at this moment, but that's sorta like saying OJ didn't kill nicole or ron. All fingers point in the same direction now. I do want BB to break the record, just so there's more at stake when his time comes on the stand.
OnTheRocks Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 i am not a big fan of Barry Bonds but why would this effect Bonds? at the time he was allegedly taking "juice" (which i have no doubt he was) the stuff wasn't a banned substance by MLB was it?
Thailog80 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 How come Bonds trainer is hooking every one BUT Bonds up with juice?
ch19079 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 o, he told the truth and will "accept the consiquences" so lets not scold him or suspend him or do anything to hurt a "TEAM" BULL sh--!!!! he only said it cus that guy is "naming names" and it looks better if he "confesses" befor the guy names him on TV. IMO, any player taking illigal steroids during a season should be fined that seasons salary. and suspended for the following season. he can come back after that but must be tested on a VERY REGULAR BASIS. all stats he has over the "season in question" should be removed from the books. but baseball wont do this. they want to see home runs and fan favorate to do well. it will be like when SOSA had the "bat thing". he cheated, but they over looked it cus hes SOSA. using steroids is like faking being retarded to win the special olimpics!!!!!! (south park)
ch19079 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 whats worse?? taking steroids. (cheating in the game) or Gambling on baseball. (even though you dont bet on your teams games) i say if hes on the "juice" he souldnt get in the hall until after he dies just like the "unnamed baseball gambler"
BRH Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 whats worse?? taking steroids. (cheating in the game) or Gambling on baseball. (even though you dont bet on your teams games) i say if hes on the "juice" he souldnt get in the hall until after he dies just like the "unnamed baseball gambler" 142401[/snapback] Are you telling me you don't think Pete Rose bet on the Reds?
wwovince Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 I think taking steroids is worse Damn Cheaters
gmac17 Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 at the time he was allegedly taking "juice" (which i have no doubt he was) the stuff wasn't a banned substance by MLB was it? the "cream" and the "clear" were both illegal, though undetectable. Are you telling me you don't think Pete Rose bet on the Reds? of course not, that would be wrong.
Alaska Darin Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 i hope this keeps barry out of the HOF.......this is much worse then anything rose ever did....... 142353[/snapback] No it's not.
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