buckeyemike Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 As all of you know, I'm a former (and I'm beginning to stress that term now) Cleveland Browns fan. One week from Sunday, the Browns make their first trip to Orchard Park since 1986. I really wish this were a stronger rivalry. To Browns fans, Buffalo is simply a place most of them have never been to, four hours northeast on I-90. Look at all the things that have happened in the world since the Browns last played the Bills at Rich/RWS: *four Super Bowl appearances for the Bills. *Browns move, then are reborn (and almost appear to be dying again). *two Presidents Bush. *I graduated from high school, college, law school, started my own law practice, and got married. *Infants turned into college students. *two wars in Iraq. *somebody actually won $2.5 million on "Jeopardy". and I could go on and on... GO BILLS!! SQUISH THE FISH!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 So, what led you to jump from the Browns to the Bills? 141733[/snapback] The move in '95. I've always liked the Bills, stretching back to the late '70s. I actually bought a t-shirt right before Super Bowl XXV years ago. Today, I have a London Fletcher jersey (I actually drove up to Orchard Park about six weeks ago), a Bills sweatshirt, bumper sticker, and other memorabilia. Buffalo is very similar to Cleveland and I am surprised there is not more a rivalry between the two cities. Cleveland spends most of its hate on Pittsburgh and what little is left is aimed at Cincinnati. The fans of the Bills are like no other. It is truly a family and I feel very fortunate to have been welcomed into, to steal a term, "Bills Nation". Where else but TSW can I waste many of my days and have nearly 2000 posts? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 mike, i'm going to that game too. it will be my first bills game in 2 years, so i'm pretty pumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Buffalo is very similar to Cleveland and I am surprised there is not more a rivalry between the two cities. Cleveland spends most of its hate on Pittsburgh and what little is left is aimed at Cincinnati.141744[/snapback] I still say when the division were redone, the NFL should have put Buffalo with Pitt/Cleve/Cincy. It would have made for some good games, plus full stadiums at each city, with them all being within a resonable driving distance for the opposing fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I still say when the division were redone, the NFL should have put Buffalo with Pitt/Cleve/Cincy. It would have made for some good games, plus full stadiums at each city, with them all being within a resonable driving distance for the opposing fans. 141759[/snapback] ...and we might have actually won the division at some point, seeing how Cleveland and Cin have been playing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 I still say when the division were redone, the NFL should have put Buffalo with Pitt/Cleve/Cincy. It would have made for some good games, plus full stadiums at each city, with them all being within a resonable driving distance for the opposing fans. 141759[/snapback] It's what I wanted. Unfortunately, the NFL thought they could exploit the Browns/Ravens situation, so they stuck Baltimore in the North. And, in retrospect, what would happen to the storied Bills/Dolphins rivalry if the league did that? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I hope the Bills don't get complacent thoughts. Last week's 58 - 48 game was certainly an oddity but I see a ton of Brownie games, and they are a feisty bunch. Prior to that game, the b'gals D gave up 3, 10, and 19 points in 2 wins and 1 loss -with only 10 points given up by the D in the Pgh loss... 9 came from a safety and an int runback, and they sacked Ben R 7 times. And Cle lit 'em up for 48...and prior to the 58 pts by Cincy, the Browns D had good stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I hope the Bills don't get complacent thoughts. Last week's 58 - 48 game was certainly an oddity but I see a ton of Brownie games, and they are a feisty bunch. Prior to that game, the b'gals D gave up 3, 10, and 19 points in 2 wins and 1 loss -with only 10 points given up by the D in the Pgh loss... 9 came from a safety and an int runback, and they sacked Ben R 7 times. And Cle lit 'em up for 48...and prior to the 58 pts by Cincy, the Browns D had good stats. 141782[/snapback] But much like we used to be , the Browns are two different teams: great at home, but garbage on the road. This Browns team almost beat Philly at home--in fact, they outplayed Philly at home and should have won that game. But then they hit the road and get blown out by the likes of the Giants and Cowboys. It also doesn't look to be getting much better for them: Holcomb is out and Luke McCown might start against New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 But much like we used to be , the Browns are two different teams: great at home, but garbage on the road. This Browns team almost beat Philly at home--in fact, they outplayed Philly at home and should have won that game. But then they hit the road and get blown out by the likes of the Giants and Cowboys. It also doesn't look to be getting much better for them: Holcomb is out and Luke McCown might start against New England. 141793[/snapback] Yep. BTW, here are the Browns' last five games: 12/5 New England 12/12 @Buffalo (of course) 12/19 San Diego 12/26 @Miami (Sunday night, ESPN) 1/2 @Houston How many of these do the Browns win? No more than 2. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 It's what I wanted. Unfortunately, the NFL thought they could exploit the Browns/Ravens situation, so they stuck Baltimore in the North. And, in retrospect, what would happen to the storied Bills/Dolphins rivalry if the league did that? Mike 141772[/snapback] I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember Ralph being VERY vocal about staying with the fish. Buffalo, Pitt, Cleveland and Cincy just makes too much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I still say when the division were redone, the NFL should have put Buffalo with Pitt/Cleve/Cincy. It would have made for some good games, plus full stadiums at each city, with them all being within a resonable driving distance for the opposing fans. ------ your absolutely right......I never thought about it before but it would make a heck of a lot more sense. And honestly, I could care less about playing Miami or NE if we were in that division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I'm coming up to Buffalo for this game too. See you at lot one, pole 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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