Deep2Moulds46 Posted June 3, 2010 Author Posted June 3, 2010 OK, let's clarify something. If I'm an hourly employee, and I'm asked to come to work, without pay, I don't come to work. In my case, and Marshawn's, we are salaried. I'm paid the same amount each year, whether I work 14 hours a day, or 8 hours. If I choose to come in on a Saturday every now and than, my pay stays the same. Marshawn gets paid the same whether he shows up or not. Don't make this a pay issue, it's not. It's about being commited, or not being commited to his profession. That's fine. He is a salary employee. He is also a unionized employee. Per the collective bargaining agreement, he is afforded the luxury to not come to voluntary workouts. He is exercising his right to not show up. It's not that big of a deal. As a salary employee, if your boss says "You can come in on Saturday or Not, it's not mandatory, then you're going to tell me you're showing up on Saturday?"
Ball'n Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Lynch scored more TDs because he has had far more "and goal" carries then Fred Jackson has. Over his career Marshawn has had 46 "and goal" carries and has converted 10 (21.7%) of them while Freddy has 18 "and goal" carries and converted on 3 attempts (16.7%). He's better than Freddy around the goal line but not by that much. I love how everyone who was yelling TD's shut up after this post.
Mr. WEO Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 I love how everyone who was yelling TD's shut up after this post. Pdaddy is just resting up for another blast of same. He's done it before. Stay tuned.
JohnC Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 While it would have been nice if he'd shown-up to OTA's, missing them won't be what makes or breaks his season. And word is he reported in great shape. If he stays out of trouble and has a good season, this will all be a big "who give a frig?" Exactly. Be very careful hysteria lurks around every corner. Getting a credible LT is more of an issue than whether ML shows up for an activity that he is not obligated to show up for.
Cookiemonster Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Good for him. Guess he didn't want to have to get a job at Applebee's. And I was looking forward to him being in full Applebeast Mode!
JohnC Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 By not coming to voluntary workouts? Whether he comes in for OTAs or not is his choice. He is only hurting his own standing with the team and coaching staff. Lynch is smart enough to understand that with him/his agent making it known that he wanted to be traded combined with not showing up for some of the OTAs that it would stimulate a strong negative response. I would have preferred that he come in for all of the OTAs. He chose not to. That is his prerogative. The over-sized outraged response to his non-appearance is very disproportionate to his decision not to appear. The judicious and smart thing for him to do was to demonstrate to this new regime that he was committed to be an important player for the Bills. He decided to work out on his own. When he starts practicing he will be judged by his performance. I'm not going to invest any emotion on him as others are doing. He is not worth the bother.
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 My view on this must be so wrong..... - A first round pick - Making a boatload of money - Probably one strike away from being out of the league for a year I want my first round picks to be charactor guys (see CJ Spiller) when you have a large chunk of money going to someone that needs to be the guy out in front showing the others what it means to work....paying the price for success...... Now yu could argue that the bills chose to make him that pick and that the camps are not manditory.......but a real leader would be there. And we need leaders on this team.....
Ball'n Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/06/03/lynch-not-on-hand/
Doc Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Exactly. Be very careful hysteria lurks around every corner. Getting a credible LT is more of an issue than whether ML shows up for an activity that he is not obligated to show up for. Baby steps, JC. I'd settle for having a LT who got the starting reps all throughout training camp and who wasn't promoted to starter just days before the season began.
JohnC Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 My view on this must be so wrong..... - A first round pick - Making a boatload of money - Probably one strike away from being out of the league for a year I want my first round picks to be charactor guys (see CJ Spiller) when you have a large chunk of money going to someone that needs to be the guy out in front showing the others what it means to work....paying the price for success...... Now yu could argue that the bills chose to make him that pick and that the camps are not manditory.......but a real leader would be there. And we need leaders on this team..... Marshawn Lynch is not a leader. He never was and never will be. The Bills selected him and they got who they got. Why do you think their record over the last decade has been so miserable? It certainly wasn't due to making an abundance of smart picks. ML has talent. That is not the issue. The issue with him is does he have the maturity to do what he has to do to develop into a prime time player? Right now his behavior speaks for itself.
JohnC Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Baby steps, JC. I'd settle for having a LT who got the starting reps all throughout training camp and who wasn't promoted to starter just days before the season began. You can have a LT getting most of the reps in training camp and the preseason and still have him be inadequate and not prepared for the real season. I will take a stop gap veteran LT who can do the job at an acceptable level rather than a player who is going to get his qb killed sooner rather than later. There is no need to compare this year to last year's follies. If you are not willing to compete then what is the point?
K Gun Special Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Whether he comes in for OTAs or not is his choice. He is only hurting his own standing with the team and coaching staff. Lynch is smart enough to understand that with him/his agent making it known that he wanted to be traded combined with not showing up for some of the OTAs that it would stimulate a strong negative response. I would have preferred that he come in for all of the OTAs. He chose not to. That is his prerogative. The over-sized outraged response to his non-appearance is very disproportionate to his decision not to appear. The judicious and smart thing for him to do was to demonstrate to this new regime that he was committed to be an important player for the Bills. He decided to work out on his own. When he starts practicing he will be judged by his performance. I'm not going to invest any emotion on him as others are doing. He is not worth the bother. Hey i agree. But bottom line is if he comes in and rocks camp, he'll be fine. Freddy is 29 years old, it doesnt matter that he's had less carries, anyone who is 29 or older and played sports knows you dont feel the same at that age as compared to 24. you are also more injury prone.
NoSaint Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 That's fine. He is a salary employee. He is also a unionized employee. Per the collective bargaining agreement, he is afforded the luxury to not come to voluntary workouts. He is exercising his right to not show up. It's not that big of a deal. As a salary employee, if your boss says "You can come in on Saturday or Not, it's not mandatory, then you're going to tell me you're showing up on Saturday?" yes, i probably would show up -- at the very least it would not be a situation where i said id be in a little late, and then not show.
Doc Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 You can have a LT getting most of the reps in training camp and the preseason and still have him be inadequate and not prepared for the real season. I will take a stop gap veteran LT who can do the job at an acceptable level rather than a player who is going to get his qb killed sooner rather than later. There is no need to compare this year to last year's follies. If you are not willing to compete then what is the point? It's more than merely willingness to compete JC. You need talent, and the jury is still out on whether Bell has that or not. You get better by playing, and especially playing against good/better players. Bell didn't get ANY playing time as a rookie, didn't get the starting reps in training camp and missed 2 weeks of training camp with an injury. So yes, I think identifying the starting LT early in training camp and having him get the reps and NOT cutting him before the season starts, will help the team out a lot period, as well as compared to last year. And that doesn't take into account the offensive scheme being geared towards the no-huddle and then getting scrapped, the offensive scheme being crap all along, the injuries to O-line and Bell himself, etc.
Kingfish Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/06/03/lynch-not-on-hand/ Unbelievable
billsfreak Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 As sad as it is for some of you to believe it, Lynch is only a year short of getting a degree from one of the best universities in the country. I doubt Applebee's is in his future. But thank god, he finally showed up to VOLUNTARY offseason drills. From what I have read he has showed up to Buffalo but not any of the off season activities. Sounds like he is still pushing for a trade, and he will get it, it is today's NFL. Remember Jason Peters? Just about all players that hold out and whine for a trade get what they want nowadays.
billsfreak Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Once we start training camp, will anyone even care about missing a week of voluntary practice? I think not but at least Lynch gives us something to talk about in the offseason. In most cases no they wouldn't care, but with his already shakey situation and with a new coaching staff, if he really wanted to play here and try to win his job back, not coming in isn't the way to do it. He is already getting on the bad side of this new staff.
Mr. WEO Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 While it would have been nice if he'd shown-up to OTA's, missing them won't be what makes or breaks his season. And word is he reported in great shape. If he stays out of trouble and has a good season, this will all be a big "who give a frig?" Reported to whom? Where? Isn't this what we heard about Peters when he held out?
HurlyBurly51 Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 From what I have read he has showed up to Buffalo but not any of the off season activities. Sounds like he is still pushing for a trade, and he will get it, it is today's NFL. Remember Jason Peters? Just about all players that hold out and whine for a trade get what they want nowadays. Guess you haven't heard of a little thing called leverage. And Marshawn has none, whereas JP had plenty. We've already got 2 players on the roster who can step in and fill the void, and ML has 3 years left on his contract. He ain't going nowhere. Funny thing is, if he wants to be moved, his best bet would be to show up and help the team. But, no one ever accused ML of being smart.
Mr. T Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 That's fine. He is a salary employee. He is also a unionized employee. Per the collective bargaining agreement, he is afforded the luxury to not come to voluntary workouts. He is exercising his right to not show up. It's not that big of a deal. As a salary employee, if your boss says "You can come in on Saturday or Not, it's not mandatory, then you're going to tell me you're showing up on Saturday?" Before I say anything, let me say I love Buffalo. I grew up there and most of my family still lives there. I love to come home and spend time with them and visit places I used to hang out. But it's the attitude that this guy (the poster) seems to have that I'm glad I'm not around anymore. Do the least amount of work that I need to do to get by. Don't ask, or expect me to do more. Take evry sick day that is coming to me, whether I'm sick or not. Quitin time is 4:30, don't expect me to be around at 4:31. Matter of fact I'll start shuttin down at 3:30 to me sure I'm out the door at 4:30. It's an attitude, or lazyness, that gets you nowhere. I guess that's why he has no problem with Lynch. To answer the question, again, yeah, I would most likely show up on Saturday if asked. Doesn't get me anymore money, but most of the people I work with would also do it, and not complain.
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