BillsVet Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Schein Organization rankings Really surprised no one has ripped Schein for his take here. I mean, doesn't he trust Nix and Gailey to get this team over the hump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 hard to argue but i will say this, chan definitely appears to know what hes doing. that might not make him the next great coach but hes the classic consummate professional. the team should be fundamentally solid under his rule, which is more than i can say for any of coaches after wade was canned im afraid the defense is going to be the weak link. gailey doesnt appear to have the background to make the defense strong and frankly i dont have much confidence in edwards, who i predict will be fired no later than after the '11 season. by then hopefully the labor dispute will be settled and we can get a real dc in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Adam Schein usually is an optimist regarding the Bills....he's usually wrong too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Hard to argue too much with our rating--we're probably somewhere between 20 and 30--but from reading most sportswriters you'd think we finished 3-13 3 years in a row rather than 7-9, followed by a 6-10. We've been a mediocre franchise, not a horrible one, at least record-wise. Groupthink lives nowhere better than in sportswriters, who seem to regurgitate each others' nonsense year in and year out. Look who Schein has as number 1, the Cheats*. Not the Colts or the Steelers, but the Cheats*, a team that really hasn't done jack squat or lived up to expectations over the last five years or so and whose prior "accomplishments" we all now know were tarnished by cheating. The Steelers have two Lombardi's in that time and the Colts have one, plus a SB appearance, for ex., while the Pats* didn't even make the playoffs two years ago and got blown out in Rd 1 last year. Another example of groupthink, that what happened in the past will somehow project itself into the future ad infinitum. Critical thinking is not a strong point among that group..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Guys like Schein are masters of the rear-view window. All these ratings are based on where we were. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Hard to argue too much with our rating--we're probably somewhere between 20 and 30--but from reading most sportswriters you'd think we finished 3-13 3 years in a row rather than 7-9, followed by a 6-10. We've been a mediocre franchise, not a horrible one, at least record-wise. Groupthink lives nowhere better than in sportswriters, who seem to regurgitate each others' nonsense year in and year out. Look who Schein has as number 1, the Cheats*. Not the Colts or the Steelers, but the Cheats*, a team that really hasn't done jack squat or lived up to expectations over the last five years or so and whose prior "accomplishments" we all now know were tarnished by cheating. The Steelers have two Lombardi's in that time and the Colts have one, plus a SB appearance, for ex., while the Pats* didn't even make the playoffs two years ago and got blown out in Rd 1 last year. Another example of groupthink, that what happened in the past will somehow project itself into the future ad infinitum. Critical thinking is not a strong point among that group..... Good post...as Promo says, it's all rear view mirror in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Adam Schein usually is an optimist regarding the Bills....he's usually wrong too LOL -- so friggin' true. When I used to listen to Sirius NFL Radio, Schein was invariably optimistic about the Bills, whether with Mularkey or Jauron at the helm. Maybe he's sick of being burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 hard to argue but i will say this, chan definitely appears to know what hes doing. that might not make him the next great coach but hes the classic consummate professional. the team should be fundamentally solid under his rule, which is more than i can say for any of coaches after wade was canned im afraid the defense is going to be the weak link. gailey doesnt appear to have the background to make the defense strong and frankly i dont have much confidence in edwards, who i predict will be fired no later than after the '11 season. by then hopefully the labor dispute will be settled and we can get a real dc in here Defense will not be the weak link, not by a long shot. There are far more question marks on offense even with having an offensive minded head coach. There's no way you can support that argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Schein Organization rankings Really surprised no one has ripped Schein for his take here. I mean, doesn't he trust Nix and Gailey to get this team over the hump? Who's Adam Schein? What make him the expert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Defense will not be the weak link, not by a long shot. There are far more question marks on offense even with having an offensive minded head coach. There's no way you can support that argument. had they kept the defence the same as last year, I would have agreed with you, for the last few years, the offence has been this teams weakest links, unlike the belief of some around here. There were many games they could have won last year had the Bills offence actually showed up to play or was half way competent. But now with the Bills having a seamingly competent offensive minded coach, I think the offence will improve, but with installing a completly different defence now that requires a completly different type of players, i see the defence having to take a few steps back to move forward. Theres one bright spot though, I don't think it is possible for the offence to take anymore steps back so the only way it can go is forward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Hard to argue too much with our rating--we're probably somewhere between 20 and 30--but from reading most sportswriters you'd think we finished 3-13 3 years in a row rather than 7-9, followed by a 6-10. We've been a mediocre franchise, not a horrible one, at least record-wise. Groupthink lives nowhere better than in sportswriters, who seem to regurgitate each others' nonsense year in and year out. Look who Schein has as number 1, the Cheats*. Not the Colts or the Steelers, but the Cheats*, a team that really hasn't done jack squat or lived up to expectations over the last five years or so and whose prior "accomplishments" we all now know were tarnished by cheating. The Steelers have two Lombardi's in that time and the Colts have one, plus a SB appearance, for ex., while the Pats* didn't even make the playoffs two years ago and got blown out in Rd 1 last year. Another example of groupthink, that what happened in the past will somehow project itself into the future ad infinitum. Critical thinking is not a strong point among that group..... It's nice that you learned a new buzzword to help you deny the truth, but the Bills haven't made the playoffs in 10 years. That is a large sampling of organizational futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 It's nice that you learned a new buzzword to help you deny the truth, That the Pats are living on past glories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Schein Organization rankings Really surprised no one has ripped Schein for his take here. I mean, doesn't he trust Nix and Gailey to get this team over the hump? Funny, you don't post all the times in the past years when Schein has basically blown the Bills. In fact, he used to call Jauron the most underrated coach in the NFL. But that's won't fit your agenda I guess. Dude, it's beautiful out and it's May. Enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Schein is a jacka$$...i could care less about his opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 LOL -- so friggin' true. When I used to listen to Sirius NFL Radio, Schein was invariably optimistic about the Bills, whether with Mularkey or Jauron at the helm. Maybe he's sick of being burned. IIRC, he went to the Newman School at Syracuse, so he's sorta familiar with the product like Criqui, Boomer and Tim G. are. However, I distinctly remember him ripping The Bills leading into the Draft 2007 when SF signed Clements away. "I am not a fan of the way the Buffalo Bills are building their team. I am a fan of the way the SF 49ers are building their team." I think SF overpaid for Clements, and the differences in the two clubs I feel is mostly due to the fact that they have an NFL caliber HC and we've been rudderless in that regard for the last decade. I don't think SF "built" their team particularly any better than The Bills have - especially regarding Clements - and that's what Schein's comment was directed at. It's easy to spend other people's money, when you're a voice on the radio, or an Internet poster for that matter. That said, I think he should have us rated at 32 out of the 32 teams in the league regarding the "organization". Nix and Gailey should improve that - but the onus is on them. I'm quietly confident that they'll manage the affairs a lot more professionally than things have been managed in the last decade. But you don't turn an aircraft carrier around on a dime. You don't reverse a decade of fail overnight either. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 No one ripped his rating because like all ratings from 'analysts', they are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Schein is a jacka$$...i could care less about his opinion I'm guessing you couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Question for the blind on this board. HAS THERE BEEN ONE, JUST ONE PERSON IN THE MEDIA WHO'S SUPPORTED THE BILLS OFFESEASON/NIX/GAILEY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 It's nice that you learned a new buzzword to help you deny the truth, but the Bills haven't made the playoffs in 10 years. That is a large sampling of organizational futility. To put that in perspective, more organizations have won Super Bowls than gone without a playoff appearance in that time. But, yeah, the Bills went 7-9! Yippee !@#$ing ki yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 The one organization I think is way overrated (20th) in Schein's little thingy is Seattle. I was underwhelmed with their draft, they seemingly overpaid for QB Charlie Whitehurst and still have questions at that position, the trade for LenDale White has blown up in their faces, and the whole Taylor Mays/Pete Carroll incident has cast an ugly shadow on Carroll…made even more interesting by the fact that Mays landed with San Francisco, in the same division. I think that Carroll (like before) simply can't handle NFL men and has problems being honest and strong around NFL players. He was a phony back during his first tenure and the early indications to me, is that he hasn't changed much if at all. Many feel like he fled USC because the empire was crumbling and that he didn't have the character to stay and fix things. Never had Carroll in a high regard and still don't. And I'd rather be a Bills fan than a Seahawks fan right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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