Chef Jim Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 link? Incidentally, ice core samples give us temperature data up to 420,000 years ago. Ohhhh, now we're up to 420,000 years. A bigger but still very small slice in the history of the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Link So what exactly is he doing buying "oceanview" property....if the sea level is supposed to rise 5 feet in 5 years(or whatever doomsday prediction they have been selling)? My other question: wtf is he doing with that many fireplaces, bathrooms, etc. Certainly he isn't concerned about saving water, or his (BS)"carbon footprint"(BS). So, given this fact, it appears Al Gore figures this is the end of the scam, cashed in his $$$, and is now moving on. I wonder, what will it take for the dipschits here and elsewhere who have been religiously following this BS, to do the same? It's hardly surprising that this constitutes proof for you. Do you really think that proving Al Gore a hypocrite also proves Global Warming a "scam"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Ohhhh, now we're up to 420,000 years. A bigger but still very small slice in the history of the planet. I'd be happy to look at the temperature data you're basing your opinion on. We can only work with what we've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 I'd be happy to look at the temperature data you're basing your opinion on. We can only work with what we've got. So you're saying there is no historical proof that the planet warms and cools on it's own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 We've done like 20 page threads on this board about it back and forth. Not to mention a really, really impressive Bill Nye video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 26, 2010 Author Share Posted May 26, 2010 What is wrong with you? You don't expect me to have a serious conversation with you when you say insane things like "So the planet is only 130 years old", do you? I expect you to understand that taking 130 years of data and trying to tell me that "it's all man-made" is exactly as dopey as trying to tell me that he world is only 6000 years old. I expect you to stop treating this like a religion, and realize that there is a hell of a lot of significance when the pope of your religion goes out and blatantly blasphemes. I don't know, Al gore is as crazy as you. I don't know about crazy, because I can be pretty crazy at times , but he might be as smart. The difference is: I don't have to make money off of idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 So you're saying there is no historical proof that the planet warms and cools on it's own? I'm not saying anything like that - it's slightly complicated system after all. I don't think making a simple, general statement like "the planet goes through natural warming and cooling phases" even remotely does it justice. It's a cop-out which all too effectively devalues the real research, at least in the court of public opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 26, 2010 Author Share Posted May 26, 2010 It's hardly surprising that this constitutes proof for you. Do you really think that proving Al Gore a hypocrite also proves Global Warming a "scam"? As I said: I think its significant when the pope of your religion goes out and blasphemes. This would be like L.Ron Hubbard suddenly telling people that he was going to give away "the secrets" of Scientology for free. Funny, but every time I hear somebody talk about Global Warming it's almost exactly like hearing a Scientologist talk. "The STATS are up"! "The only reason Scientology didn't cure him was because that group of scientologists didn't have the TECH right". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Not to mention a really, really impressive Bill Nye video. Right again, because referencing Bill Nye is the actual period to the Global Warming "scam". How could so many people be so naive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 As I said: I think its significant when the pope of your religion goes out and blasphemes. This would be like L.Ron Hubbard suddenly telling people that he was going to give away "the secrets" of Scientology for free. Funny, but every time I hear somebody talk about Global Warming it's almost exactly like hearing a Scientologist talk. "The STATS are up"! "The only reason Scientology didn't cure him was because that group of scientologists didn't have the TECH right". Jackass, nothing Al Gore does, buys or thinks affects what is actually going on with the Earth's climate. Funny, but every time I hear somebody talk about how man-made Global Warming is definitely not real, it's almost exactly like hearing a 9/11 Truther talk. "The government, environmentalists and scientists are all in on a great big conspiracy to fool the world"! This whole thread is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Not to mention a really, really impressive Bill Nye video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Right again, because referencing Bill Nye is the actual period to the Global Warming "scam". How could so many people be so naive? Actually, referencing Bill Nye is the exclamation point to the Conner-knows-what-he's-talking-about scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 130 years. Whoa, that really is a big slice of the history of this planet isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Actually, referencing Bill Nye is the exclamation point to the Conner-knows-what-he's-talking-about scam. Oh, you were trying to be funny. I've got to remember that you do that sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 26, 2010 Author Share Posted May 26, 2010 Jackass, nothing Al Gore does, buys or thinks affects what is actually going on with the Earth's climate. Funny, but every time I hear somebody talk about how man-made Global Warming is definitely not real, it's almost exactly like hearing a 9/11 Truther talk. "The government, environmentalists and scientists are all in on a great big conspiracy to fool the world"! This whole thread is worthless. Oh really? Then why were all of you fools parading around with your dvd copies of "An Inconvenient Truth"? Why were you all telling us we were wrong because Al Gore won a Nobel Prize? Please. Come on dude, where do you think Al Gore gets his info from? The very same "infallible" scientists that we keep hearing about. You didn't think he was dumb, or smart, enough to make this up all by himself? These scientists have been caught lying and it's high time you acknowledge that. I didn't make them fudge their data, so don't try to make this about me. You can't separate ALGORE, inc. from these "infallible" scientists anymore than you can separate white from rice. Here's the thing: the burden of proof is on you, not on me. You have to convince us. You haven't. You have to convince us that this isn't merely a backhanded way to accomplish a goal that you can never get done at the ballot box = redistribution of wealth. I am not saying it's definitely not real. I am saying give me something more than fudged data, Al Gore's movie, newspaper articles, an undergrad thesis study, and a giant "because I say so", to prove it. If this is about survival of our way of life and keeping people from dying, then why is everything they do seem to be much more about imposing socialist economics, instead of the supposed main goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 I'm not saying anything like that - it's slightly complicated system after all. I don't think making a simple, general statement like "the planet goes through natural warming and cooling phases" even remotely does it justice. It's a cop-out which all too effectively devalues the real research, at least in the court of public opinion. Fair point. And I don't think there has been any dispute that the planet has warmed considerably over the past 130 or so years. I think the question is why. Were we going through an usually cold spell when records were being kept? Perhaps because of major volcanic eruptions like this one or this one. Are humans the cause? I don't know the answer, but spending trillions because well-maybe-we-caused-it doesn't seem like a prudent use of resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Do as we say. Not as we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Fair point. And I don't think there has been any dispute that the planet has warmed considerably over the past 130 or so years. I think the question is why. Were we going through an usually cold spell when records were being kept? Perhaps because of major volcanic eruptions like this one or this one. Are humans the cause? I don't know the answer, but spending trillions because well-maybe-we-caused-it doesn't seem like a prudent use of resources. The NSF's "conclusive" report on global warming established that the past 400 years are a period of "abnormal warming" compared to the previous 400 years - known as "The Little Ice Age". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 The NSF's "conclusive" report on global warming established that the past 400 years are a period of "abnormal warming" compared to the previous 400 years - known as "The Little Ice Age". Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 The NSF's "conclusive" report on global warming established that the past 400 years are a period of "abnormal warming" compared to the previous 400 years - known as "The Little Ice Age". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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