Simon Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 Tell me your memory is so short that you've forgotten the OTHER #11. Why whatever are you talking about, Joe? What does a river in Egypt have to do with any of this?
UConn James Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 From various sources: POSITIVES: ... Senses pressure, gets outside tackle and easily eludes the rush, making the throw on the move. NEGATIVES: ... Holds the ball too long in the pocket and takes unnecessary sacks. 140677[/snapback] Not highlighting the hypocracy to rag on you, Nick. These short write-ups are about the worst possible things to make a reading of someone. Ohp! He got sacked a few times (b/c his line was stevestojanny) so obviously he holds the ball too long. Ohp! He had a few pressure rollout plays and connected on the run. So obviously he's a great eluder of the rush. Watch the games and see what he brings to his team when he's out there. Wins. From everything I've seen, J.P. is a gamer, pure and simple. If I'm a captain at recess, a guy like him is my first pick.
ICE Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 Well we certainly saw a very live arm and some sweet feet in the preseason. But we still don't know the most important thing about him.Can the boy think while people are trying to rip his head off? 140705[/snapback] LOL hell all they did was rip it off at Tulane Seriously the kid took a hell of a beating but kept on winning.
Toledo Bill Posted December 1, 2004 Author Posted December 1, 2004 Thank you for all the input. This board can really be helpful when someone is looking for information.
BuffaloWings Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 My only comment is...was Rothlesburger ready? No more so than Manning, JP or Rivers. Look where Rothlesburger is now. We have a team now that can protect JP just like Roth is protected in Pitt. 140763[/snapback] Well, JP's injury took away a lot of his time in camp and regular practice time. Rivers held out for too long, so that hurt his "readiness". Manning and Roethlisberger were probably as ready as rookie, first-round QBs could be. Ben did his job by preparing to go (at least he didn't say he probably wasn't prepared). I just think there's no sense in putting in JP right now while the team is winning with Drew. It would be just like when Wade started Johnson over Flutie in the Tennessee playoff game. The rest of the team will immediately take that as a sign he's given up on the season...not exactly the message that a rookie coach wants to send to a bunch of veterans.
nick in* england Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 JP looks super raw when he is out on that field. That outing against NE was horrible - no doubt about it. I know the circumstances mitigate his performace considerably, but he reverted to the happy feet, run at the first sign of danger, sling it anywhere QB that I feared we had drafted. I am sure that he's better than that - the pass last week was a nice throw for sure. But all of his downsides sound all too familiar (can you say Drew too?). That boy has so much to learn right now - and while I oppose starting him this season, I am open to him pushing Drew for the #1 spot in the off season. As long as Wyche can settle them damn feet.
Simon Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 hell all they did was rip it off at Tulane..... Seriously the kid took a hell of a beating but kept on winning. I agree he's got the "It" but the guys who are going to be trying to rip his head off on Sundays are not hungover college kids who were in the French Quarter 10 hours earlier. These evil bastards are paid assassins and JP is going to have real fear to deal with now.
PIZ Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 For those questioning JP's size, Brett Farve is listed at 6'2" and 225 lbs.
Guest Guest_Joe Fergy_* Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 Well, JP's injury took away a lot of his time in camp and regular practice time. Rivers held out for too long, so that hurt his "readiness". Manning and Roethlisberger were probably as ready as rookie, first-round QBs could be. Ben did his job by preparing to go (at least he didn't say he probably wasn't prepared). I just think there's no sense in putting in JP right now while the team is winning with Drew. It would be just like when Wade started Johnson over Flutie in the Tennessee playoff game. The rest of the team will immediately take that as a sign he's given up on the season...not exactly the message that a rookie coach wants to send to a bunch of veterans. 140824[/snapback] No! RJ was the better QB and one that game except for that last play. The year before Flutie had his chance and couldn't even put up a TD end of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bobblehead Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 Interesting stuff. But if this kid is 6-3, 220 , I'm Yao Ming. 140695[/snapback] Congrats, sweet pea. You got someone to look at you, now go stomp your foot.
ICE Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 I think JP is actually going too fast. Other than his backpedal from center (friggin sweet) I think he is trying to do things too fast. Reads too fast, ready to dump the ball off or run too fast. With his ability to get out from under center so fast and his ability with his legs, he needs to relax a little and wait for a play to develop. Only though playing will he do this.
Oneida Lake Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 Congrats, sweet pea. You got someone to look at you, now go stomp your foot. 141482[/snapback] excuse me?
bobblehead Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 excuse me? 141491[/snapback] Go away, attention whore.
mead107 Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 What's the matter mead? The truth hurt? I look at this kid and sometimes I see another #11 on his back. 140743[/snapback] so you like drew? YOU WANT THE TRUTH " YOU CANN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" you better stop drinking come up for air OPEN YOUR F####ING EYES
Alaska Darin Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 In style, he's the Anti-Bledsoe. Quick thinking,decisive,mobile,spots secondary receivers... Losman has an upside. Bledsoe has none. 140672[/snapback] I'm not sure I'd use "quick thinking" and JP Losman in the same sentence. That and his footwork were the biggest scouting criticisms of him before the draft.
bobblehead Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 so you like drew? YOU WANT THE TRUTH " YOU CANN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" you better stop drinking come up for air OPEN YOUR F####ING EYES 141506[/snapback] It may be unfair, but comparing JP to RJ is all people have right now, until JP has some games under his belt. If the kid really is a gamer, the comparisons will go away fast.
Oneida Lake Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 Go away, attention whore. 141499[/snapback] You average 4 posts a day, I average less than 1 and I'm the attention whore? F- off.
bobblehead Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 and I'm the attention whore? Yes, you are. Thanks.
Oneida Lake Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 and I'm the attention whore? 141513[/snapback] [/quote Yes, you are. Thanks. 141515[/snapback] Well, I'm a little confused, but sometimes there's just no accounting for certain weird azzholes you meet in life. I guess you're one of those. Rock on, Mr Important Guy.
bobblehead Posted December 1, 2004 Posted December 1, 2004 Well, I'm a little confused, but sometimes there's just noaccounting for certain weird azzholes you meet in life. I guess you're one of those. Rock on, Mr Important Guy. 141532[/snapback] Whatever you say, i'm hurt by your wittiness.
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