gjv001 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It has been reported that Baltimore would trade Gaither for a #2 pick in the 2011 draft. What do you think is the reason the Bills arn't willing to make that trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It has been reported that Baltimore would trade Gaither for a #2 pick in the 2011 draft. What do you think is the reason the Bills arn't willing to make that trade? Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It has been reported that Baltimore would trade Gaither for a #2 pick in the 2011 draft. What do you think is the reason the Bills arn't willing to make that trade? Because he's lazy, unmotivated, and likely to demand a mega contract at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Because he's lazy, unmotivated, and likely to demand a mega contract at the end of the year. A mega contract would likely have to be reached before the trade is made. Why would you trade a 2nd round pick for a guy signed through only next season? Then, do you want to spend that kind of money on a player who has had motivation questions throughout his college and pro career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Ill bet my bottom dollar this deal still gets done. Wait until mandatory mini camps start and training camp, once Gaither starts whining about being the RT. Thats when we scoop him up for a 3rd or a 4th and a player, or something along those lines. I just have a gut feeling this will still get done, just why rush it? See if his value falls a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It has been reported that Baltimore would trade Gaither for a #2 pick in the 2011 draft. What do you think is the reason the Bills arn't willing to make that trade? Assuming they really want Gaither, which has been reported but not confirmed. I can think of two reasons. One is that Gaither may be injured to the severity that he cannot pass the Bills physical at this time. The second reason is that the Bills would want to have an agreed upon framework of a contract with Gaither's agent in place before they trade for him. Of course they would need the Raven's permission to do this and I am sure it would be granted if a deal was in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Why give up a second round pick on a former 5th round pick with work ethic and attitude problems who needs a new contract when you just picked up a LT in the fifth that many had rated as a third round talent. See what you have first, and wait for the price to drop. There's a reason Baltimore is shopping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Why give up a second round pick on a former 5th round pick with work ethic and attitude problems who needs a new contract when you just picked up a LT in the fifth that many had rated as a third round talent. See what you have first, and wait for the price to drop. There's a reason Baltimore is shopping him. What he said ^ Be patient. In Buddy we trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It has been reported that Baltimore would trade Gaither for a #2 pick in the 2011 draft. What do you think is the reason the Bills arn't willing to make that trade? It was also reported that Marshawn would be traded before the draft. It was also reported that Cowher was strongly considering being the Bills head coach. I could go on and on and on. The people who reported that Gaither was available for a third were guessing or reporting rumors. How do you know that the Bills haven't already offered a second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 A mega contract would likely have to be reached before the trade is made. Why would you trade a 2nd round pick for a guy signed through only next season? Then, do you want to spend that kind of money on a player who has had motivation questions throughout his college and pro career? The motivation questions are based just as strongly on rumors and nothing else as the fact that Baltimore would take a second for Gaither. In college, he was never once accused of any football-related motivation questions. He was having major motivation problems in the classroom. If you don't take any players on your team who have had classroom issues, you'd have a hard time putting together a 45 man roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Why give up a second round pick on a former 5th round pick with work ethic and attitude problems who needs a new contract when you just picked up a LT in the fifth that many had rated as a third round talent. See what you have first, and wait for the price to drop. There's a reason Baltimore is shopping him. There's also a reason Baltimore would love to keep him on the roster this year and franchise him next year (assuming that some kind of labor agreement is in place) and either keep him or trade him then. Baltimore, unlike the Bills, has a very legitimate shot at a Super Bowl this year, and having Gaither (at about $3 mill for the year) makes them a great deal better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It has been reported that Baltimore would trade Gaither for a #2 pick in the 2011 draft. What do you think is the reason the Bills arn't willing to make that trade? Nix and Gailey have a plan , building the team through the draft , giving away high draft picks on a player that may have some issues as far as work ethic & other possible things $ , may be part of it . Here's one back at you why with Marshawn being a first round pick with two 1000 yd seasons under his belt at 24 years old wouldn't any one pony up a second for him ?? Think about it - uncapped year , no labor agreement , small market team rebuilding why hasn't say Jerry Jones jumped all over that something ain't quite right !! Either Ozzy is just asking to much for a tainted product or Nix & Gailey have other things in mind !! GO BILLS !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It has been reported that there was a shooter in the grassy knoll. It has been reported that Brett Favre is retired. It has been reported that Dewey defeated Truman. Back to Aaron Maybin........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyjustbcuz Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Because he's lazy, unmotivated, and likely to demand a mega contract at the end of the year. sounds like a cross between Mike Williams and Jason Peters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyjustbcuz Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Nix and Gailey have a plan , building the team through the draft , giving away high draft picks on a player that may have some issues as far as work ethic & other possible things $ , may be part of it . Here's one back at you why with Marshawn being a first round pick with two 1000 yd seasons under his belt at 24 years old wouldn't any one pony up a second for him ?? Think about it - uncapped year , no labor agreement , small market team rebuilding why hasn't say Jerry Jones jumped all over that something ain't quite right !! Either Ozzy is just asking to much for a tainted product or Nix & Gailey have other things in mind !! GO BILLS !!!!!! I'm thinking that maybe the Bills in the Buddy Nix regime are tougher negotiators as far as trades/draftpicks? Maybe, they are demanding a little more than teams want to pony up for Lynch, and Nix feels Lynch's potential is greater than what is on the table...and that he rather keep him than give him away at a degraded value. The same with Gaither, maybe Nix feels that Baltimore is placing too high of a value on a player that will not start at his true positon, as Baltimore will start Michael Oher at left tackle. Baltimore probably realized Gaither's flaws and that is why he is trade bait. Buddy Nix probably won't go beyond a 3rd pick for Gaither as he can't afford to over compensate teams for a flawed player. I think that last year that Buffalo could have gotten the higher of the two picks in the round as Philly owned two, but we settled on the lower pick. I think Nix may be more patient and will ensure that he doesn't get burned in trades. Making no trade is still better than making a bad trade, although I think it would be great to trade Lynch for whatever the justifiable compensation is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Because he's lazy, unmotivated, and likely to demand a mega contract at the end of the year. Amen, could be Jason Peters II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 just picked up a LT in the fifth that many had rated as a third round talent. Whoa, hold on there. Where was Wang rated that highly? If anything, he was rated lower, and the Bills had to reach to ensure they at least got a tackle at that point. For example, Kyle Calloway who was drafted in the 7th was rated much, much higher than Wang as a tackle. Ed Wang is a project. Anyone expecting any more from him his 1st year is likely to be very disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I'm thinking that maybe the Bills in the Buddy Nix regime are tougher negotiators as far as trades/draftpicks? Maybe, they are demanding a little more than teams want to pony up for Lynch, and Nix feels Lynch's potential is greater than what is on the table...and that he rather keep him than give him away at a degraded value. The same with Gaither, maybe Nixfeels that Baltimore is placing too high of a value on a player that will not start at his true positon, as Baltimore will start Michael Oher at left tackle. Baltimore probably realized Gaither's flaws and that is why he is trade bait. Buddy Nix probably won't go beyond a 3rd pick for Gaither as he can't afford to over compensate teams for a flawed player. I think that last year that Buffalo could have gotten the higher of the two picks in the round as Philly owned two, but we settled on the lower pick. I think Nix may be more patient and will ensure that he doesn't get burned in trades. Making no trade is still better than making a bad trade, although I think it would be great to trade Lynch for whatever the justifiable compensation is. I also think Nix wants to see how his line functions when there is a serviceable game plan in place. I'm sure the no huddle debacle last year didn't exactly allow for the linemen to shine. Throw in a ridiculous number of injuries and you have a guaranteed mess. There are some young players with potential, and one more year of experience. Maybe Nix thinks they won't look so bad if they are put in a position to succeed. If they fail, then he knows it's time to look elsewhere. Bear in mind that it's a really young line that has time to get better. Realistically, the interior is set. Green is likely a stopgap RT. That leaves three guys on the roster in Meredith, Bell, and Wang who could potentially play LT. As much as it sucks, this year is going to be a feeling out process with young players... a process that should have been mandated as soon as DJ got the axe instead of letting Fewell go through the charade of trying to win the job (not so much with the o-line given the lack of healthy players, but certainly with the rest of the team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Whoa, hold on there. Where was Wang rated that highly? If anything, he was rated lower, and the Bills had to reach to ensure they at least got a tackle at that point. For example, Kyle Calloway who was drafted in the 7th was rated much, much higher than Wang as a tackle. Ed Wang is a project. Anyone expecting any more from him his 1st year is likely to be very disappointed. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/4/28/...couting-reports http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/558727 Not by any means a comprehensive list. Fact of the matter is he was ranked all over the place, from the 2-3 round, on up to the 20th tackle off the board. I know I've seen other scouting reports that were similarly varied. He also put up good combine numbers and played left tackle for two years in a tough conference. Realistically any tackle outside of the first 3 or 4 off the board is likely a project that won't start his first year. As far as the Bills "reaching", I have a feeling they had most of the tackles except for the first 2-3 overall rated fairly evenly, in which case why not wait and use the higher picks on other players that they rated highly. The point of my post, however, was was Gaither was a fifth round pick as well, and may have other issues that make picking him up less attractive, especially if he comes with a pricetag of a second round pick. As for Calloway, if he was rated so highly as a tackle, why is he most likely being moved inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 As for Calloway, if he was rated so highly as a tackle, why is he most likely being moved inside? Our best scenario would be for Calloway to prove to be a good starting RG which would slide Wood to C and put Hangartner as the backup G/C. Not saying I'm expecting it, just saying it sure would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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