Gaither trade unlikely

[BeastMode54]

Q: Do you think the Buffalo Bills are gonna get the trade done for Jared Gaither? If not, are they gonna go after a Jammal Brown or even a Flozell Adams for a stopgap to teach some of our young prospects?

 

-- Frank (Staten Island, N.Y.)

 

 

A: Frank, talks for Gaither have cooled off dramatically. No longer is it feasible to expect that trade to get done. The sides talked but are too far apart in agreeing to terms. It doesn't mean it won't one day get done, but it's not close to getting done now, and there are serious reservations that it ever will. So, that leaves Buffalo looking elsewhere, and it's a tough spot. To a certain extent, Brown can help dictate where he will go because if he refuses to sign a long-term deal, a team will be hesitant to trade for him. Adams is on the market at this time of year for a reason. There are no surefire solutions other than the draft. And the Bills believed it was more important to go with running back C.J. Spiller, who should be a great NFL player.

[BillsGuyInMalta]

Hopefully this ends all of this Gaither nonsense.

 

Some people just refuse to accept the fact this trade is dead.

[Gugny]

Q: Do you think the Buffalo Bills are gonna get the trade done for Jared Gaither? If not, are they gonna go after a Jammal Brown or even a Flozell Adams for a stopgap to teach some of our young prospects?

 

-- Frank (Staten Island, N.Y.)

 

 

A: Frank, talks for Gaither have cooled off dramatically. No longer is it feasible to expect that trade to get done. The sides talked but are too far apart in agreeing to terms. It doesn't mean it won't one day get done, but it's not close to getting done now, and there are serious reservations that it ever will. So, that leaves Buffalo looking elsewhere, and it's a tough spot. To a certain extent, Brown can help dictate where he will go because if he refuses to sign a long-term deal, a team will be hesitant to trade for him. Adams is on the market at this time of year for a reason. There are no surefire solutions other than the draft. And the Bills believed it was more important to go with running back C.J. Spiller, who should be a great NFL player.

This stinks. How is the draft a surefire solution? I hope the Gaither deal isn't totally dead. Adams would be a waste of time/money. Worst case scenario .. young guys get a year playing together under their belts. All will not be lost, either way. Go Bills.

[John from Riverside]

Argueing with someone in the chat box yesterday on this but he may in fact be right.....

 

Maybe the Ravens simply wanted a 1st rounder and wouldnt come off it? I would not give up a 1st rounder which might be a very high pick for Gaither.....frankly If we are offering a 2nd and a player I think the Ravens are stupid not to make that trade with us....because it could be a very high 2nd....

 

Come on Jammal Brown!

[BillsVet]

Hopefully this ends all of this Gaither nonsense.

 

Some people just refuse to accept the fact this trade is dead.

 

It's dead and none of know why. I suspect Baltimore wanted more in trade than what Buffalo would offer, given that the Bills needed to re-sign the guy to a sizable contract. The Bills aren't handing out 40-50M contracts anymore.

 

Bills fans must resign themselves to seeing projects like Bell or Wang getting manhandled by opposing pass-rushers. After all, they're cheap and that's what counts.

[K-9]

Good. I don't think the Bills should give up anything more than a 3 for him, if anything at all.

 

The Ravens have done two things already to lessen his value: they've moved him to a less valuable position AND publicly called him out on his attitude (as was backed up by his college coach previously).

 

IMHO, the Ravens won't run the risk of keeping a player who's value has declined by keeping him and risk losing him to FA and not getting anything in return. This is his last season in B'more regardless as he seeks to be compensated like an elite LT. Well, he's currently an injured RT. The Ravens have overplayed their hand.

 

The idea that they'll just hold on to him until a team sustains an injury (some have posited that here) is a gamble at best. And even THEN I doubt a team would be willing to pay more than a 3rd.

 

GO BILLS!!!

[BuffaloBaumer]

Good. I don't think the Bills should give up anything more than a 3 for him, if anything at all.

 

The Ravens have done two things already to lessen his value: they've moved him to a less valuable position AND publicly called him out on his attitude (as was backed up by his college coach previously).

 

IMHO, the Ravens won't run the risk of keeping a player who's value has declined by keeping him and risk losing him to FA and not getting anything in return. This is his last season in B'more regardless as he seeks to be compensated like an elite LT. Well, he's currently an injured RT. The Ravens have overplayed their hand.

 

The idea that they'll just hold on to him until a team sustains an injury (some have posited that here) is a gamble at best. And even THEN I doubt a team would be willing to pay more than a 3rd.

 

GO BILLS!!!

 

Yes and yes....exactly

[Kelly the Dog]

From what I have been reading and hearing, the Ravens want a #2 and the Bills are offering a #3 and the Ravens aren't budging yet. So Schefter, who has really gone south IMO since going to ESPN, goes from saying the Bills want him BAD to the trade looks dead now with exactly nothing happening either way.

 

Newsome is very likely just waiting the Bills out. There is no reason for him to budge right now because he's in a pretty tough bind. It's similar to the Chargers situation with Michael Turner a couple years ago. They had to decide what was worth trading him away for, versus keeping him for one full year and then losing him for nothing. They decided to keep him. The Ravens may as well.

 

I do think the Bills may be able to get him for a #3 next year and a player, or a #3 that turns into a #2 if, say, he plays all 16 games and gets five pro bowl votes or the Bills offense finishes in the upper half of the conference, some incentive based thing that is feasible, and neither highly likely nor unlikely.

[BillnutinHouston]

From what I have been reading and hearing, the Ravens want a #2 and the Bills are offering a #3 and the Ravens aren't budging yet. So Schefter, who has really gone south IMO since going to ESPN, goes from saying the Bills want him BAD to the trade looks dead now with exactly nothing happening either way.

 

Newsome is very likely just waiting the Bills out. There is no reason for him to budge right now because he's in a pretty tough bind. It's similar to the Chargers situation with Michael Turner a couple years ago. They had to decide what was worth trading him away for, versus keeping him for one full year and then losing him for nothing. They decided to keep him. The Ravens may as well.

 

I do think the Bills may be able to get him for a #3 next year and a player, or a #3 that turns into a #2 if, say, he plays all 16 games and gets five pro bowl votes or the Bills offense finishes in the upper half of the conference, some incentive based thing that is feasible, and neither highly likely nor unlikely.

 

Exactly. It's a game of chicken at this point.

[Steely Dan]

I forget where I read this but there was something I read that made me believe that the cRavens are asking for Leodis McKelvin. I surmised it from what I read but it makes sense seeing as how the cRavens are CB starved.

 

I hope the Bills do not give up McKelvin in any deal.

[sllib olaffub]

I don't have any inside info, but when I look back before the draft at speculation about who the Bills would pick, it ended up that Gailey and Nix pretty much were honest before the draft about who they'd be looking at. It appears these guys aren't saying one thing only to do another. That being said, I recall Gailey responding to a question about LT after the draft: he said they wanted to look at how their guys performed in camp, with pads on, and if they thought they needed to upgrade - if it looked like the guys they had couldn't do what they wanted them to do - then they'd look for an upgrade via F.A.

That pretty much tells you they are in no hurry to sign a LT, unless it's a good deal for them. If our LT candidates dissappoint come training camp, then I think you'll see the Bills moving to trade for someone.

[Trader]

This stinks. How is the draft a surefire solution? I hope the Gaither deal isn't totally dead. Adams would be a waste of time/money. Worst case scenario .. young guys get a year playing together under their belts. All will not be lost, either way. Go Bills.

 

Why give up anything for Gaither? The Bills are not contending for a playoff spot this year, that should be very obvious to the objective fan if there is such a thing. Gaither will be a free agent next year his true market value will be known. There is not a need to give up a player or a draft pick for him. They are planning to start Edwards this year that should last a few games until he goes on IR. He will be followed by Fitzpatrick and Brohm. Perhaps Levi Brown will see a game or two at the end of the season.

[Lurker]

Hopefully this ends all of this Gaither nonsense.

 

Some people just refuse to accept the fact this trade is dead.

It's still posturing, IMO. Neither team has any motivation to 'blink' until training camp opens...

[Red]

I'm a little let down with this at this point, as I was hoping something would occur soon to fix perhaps our biggest hole on the roster- that of LT.

 

Oh well. It could still happen. I think as others have mentioned that Baltimore is probably holding to too high of a draft pick in return and/ or Gaither may be being a jerk about not wanting/ wanting a multi-year deal.

 

But it probably has more to do with what Baltimore wants and what the Bills are willing to spend than anything else.

[Gugny]

Why give up anything for Gaither? The Bills are not contending for a playoff spot this year, that should be very obvious to the objective fan if there is such a thing. Gaither will be a free agent next year his true market value will be known. There is not a need to give up a player or a draft pick for him. They are planning to start Edwards this year that should last a few games until he goes on IR. He will be followed by Fitzpatrick and Brohm. Perhaps Levi Brown will see a game or two at the end of the season.

Getting Gaither now would almost be equivalent to drafting him. He's that young. And he'd cost less than a 1st round pick would have, due to being a few years older. That's just my thinking, anyway. Had they gotten Gaither via trade during the draft, their so-called grade would've been an A, and not a C (grades are BS, anyway).

[birdog1960]

Exactly. It's a game of chicken at this point.

yeah, the bills hold all the cards. they have 2 lt's and we have none.

[MartyBall4Buffalo]

I forget where I read this but there was something I read that made me believe that the cRavens are asking for Leodis McKelvin. I surmised it from what I read but it makes sense seeing as how the cRavens are CB starved.

 

I hope the Bills do not give up McKelvin in any deal.

 

Seriously in a division with Randy Moss/Brandon Marshall/Braylon Edwards/Santonio Holmes the Bills really can't afford to be trading someone with the potential of McKelvin especially when you consider that McGee and Drayton Florence are getting up there in age, while guys like youboty/corner are likely nothing more than nickle/dime backs. Gaither is a nice player, but the Bills can afford not to be in a hurry on this one.

[bkc]

it is dead as long as the Bills are not offering Baltimore's asking price. Lets see what happens in camp. The Price being asked may not look that high when are young left tackles are being abused. Then agian maybe one of them steps up.

[shoretalk]

it is dead as long as the Bills are not offering Baltimore's asking price. Lets see what happens in camp. The Price being asked may not look that high when are young left tackles are being abused. Then agian maybe one of them steps up.

Gaither has an injured foot ... he's been moved to RT ... he has an attitude problem ... he will be a FA after this season ... he may have a weight issue too.

 

So, for the naysayers ... if our LT's fail us miserably and we don't win any games (your ultimate fantastic dream season) then we get to pick Mel Kiper's #1 QB and ... Gaither will be out on the FA market.

 

If we make the trade w/o him signing a long term contract then it is not even worth a #3 pick. If he signs and then his injury or weight or attitude keep him from playing then do we draft an LT next year after the ultimate dream guaranteed to succeed QB?

 

If we sign him and make the trade ... give up a #2 and maybe a player (Roscoe) and he doesn't pan out then who do we blame?

 

Bell had one good game at LT to start the season when we had an OL w/o injuries. Then everyone started getting hurt. Does he have potential? Maybe. Does every single rookie OL make more than their share of mistakes/penalties? Yes ... Did Bell do anything worse than any other first year LT? I don't think so.

 

So Bell might be ready ... Wang is certainly motivated ... or maybe Gaither but not at too steep a price.

 

And, is anyone surprised that Adam is contradicting himself one more time?

[Maddog69]

Hopefully this ends all of this Gaither nonsense.

 

Some people just refuse to accept the fact this trade is dead.

 

I must have missed the part where Schefter says that the trade is dead.