Coach55 Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. GS W L T W% W L W% Ferguson 163 77 86 47.2% 1 3 25.0% Kelly 160 101 59 63.1% 9 8 52.9% Kemp 77 43 31 3 57.8% 2 3 40.0% Bledsoe 48 23 25 47.9% Shaw 37 8 27 2 22.9% Losman 33 10 23 30.3% Flutie 30 21 9 70.0% 0 1 0.0% Edwards 30 14 16 46.7% Johnson 26 9 17 34.6% 0 1 0.0% Collins 17 7 10 41.2% Green 11 5 6 45.5% Van Pelt 11 3 8 27.3% Darragh 11 1 10 9.1% Rabb 10 6 3 1 66.7% Ferragamo 9 1 8 11.1% Fitzpatrick 8 4 4 50.0% Holcomb 8 4 4 50.0% Reich 8 4 4 50.0% 2 0 100.0% Mathison 7 1 6 14.3% Marangi 7 0 7 0.0% O'Connell 6 1 4 1 20.0% Dufek 5 1 4 20.0% Lamonica 4 4 0 100.0% Flores 4 1 2 1 37.5% Lucas 4 1 3 25.0% Dorow 4 0 4 0.0% Reynolds 3 2 1 66.7% Harris 3 0 3 0.0% Rutkowski 3 0 3 0.0% Stephenson3 0 3 0.0% McClure 1 1 0 100.0% Brodhead 1 1 0 100.0% Totten 1 0 1 0.0% Brohm 1 0 1 0.0% Manucci 1 0 1 0.0% Hart 1 0 1 0.0%
Coach55 Posted May 21, 2010 Author Posted May 21, 2010 Coach55 said: Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. GS W L T W% W L W% Ferguson 163 77 86 47.2% 1 3 25.0% Kelly 160 101 59 63.1% 9 8 52.9% Kemp 77 43 31 3 57.8% 2 3 40.0% Bledsoe 48 23 25 47.9% Shaw 37 8 27 2 22.9% Losman 33 10 23 30.3% Flutie 30 21 9 70.0% 0 1 0.0% Edwards 30 14 16 46.7% Johnson 26 9 17 34.6% 0 1 0.0% Collins 17 7 10 41.2% Green 11 5 6 45.5% Van Pelt 11 3 8 27.3% Darragh 11 1 10 9.1% Rabb 10 6 3 1 66.7% Ferragamo 9 1 8 11.1% Fitzpatrick 8 4 4 50.0% Holcomb 8 4 4 50.0% Reich 8 4 4 50.0% 2 0 100.0% Mathison 7 1 6 14.3% Marangi 7 0 7 0.0% O'Connell 6 1 4 1 20.0% Dufek 5 1 4 20.0% Lamonica 4 4 0 100.0% Flores 4 1 2 1 37.5% Lucas 4 1 3 25.0% Dorow 4 0 4 0.0% Reynolds 3 2 1 66.7% Harris 3 0 3 0.0% Rutkowski 3 0 3 0.0% Stephenson3 0 3 0.0% McClure 1 1 0 100.0% Brodhead 1 1 0 100.0% Totten 1 0 1 0.0% Brohm 1 0 1 0.0% Manucci 1 0 1 0.0% Hart 1 0 1 0.0% FYI - the second set of W-L-W% for some QB's is their playoff record. This didn't print in the chart as I laid it out.
Beerball Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Coach55 said: Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. I think it shows the futility of this organization in its entirety .
birdog1960 Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Beerball said: I think it shows the futility of this organization in its entirety . it shows the incompetence of the owner...even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut (and then he benches one of them for a playoff game)
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 birdog1960 said: it shows the incompetence of the owner...even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut (and then he benches one of them for a playoff game) At one time Flutie was the whip shizzle... for this you cannot deny.
BobbyC81 Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 Coach55 said: Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. GS W L T W% W L W% Ferguson 163 77 86 47.2% 1 3 25.0% Kelly 160 101 59 63.1% 9 8 52.9% Kemp 77 43 31 3 57.8% 2 3 40.0% Did the AFL just play the regular season East Champ vs West Champ? Seems to be the case with Kemp having a 2-3 playoff record, having won 2 AFL championships.
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted May 23, 2010 Posted May 23, 2010 AVP said: Did the AFL just play the regular season East Champ vs West Champ? Seems to be the case with Kemp having a 2-3 playoff record, having won 2 AFL championships. Yes, unless there was a divisional tie, as in 1963, when the Bills played and lost a playoff to the Pats.
Original Byrd Man Posted May 23, 2010 Posted May 23, 2010 Coach55 said: Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. GS W L T W% W L W% Ferguson 163 77 86 47.2% 1 3 25.0% Kelly 160 101 59 63.1% 9 8 52.9% Kemp 77 43 31 3 57.8% 2 3 40.0% Bledsoe 48 23 25 47.9% Shaw 37 8 27 2 22.9% Losman 33 10 23 30.3% Flutie 30 21 9 70.0% 0 1 0.0% Edwards 30 14 16 46.7% Johnson 26 9 17 34.6% 0 1 0.0% Collins 17 7 10 41.2% Green 11 5 6 45.5% Van Pelt 11 3 8 27.3% Darragh 11 1 10 9.1% Rabb 10 6 3 1 66.7% Ferragamo 9 1 8 11.1% Fitzpatrick 8 4 4 50.0% Holcomb 8 4 4 50.0% Reich 8 4 4 50.0% 2 0 100.0% Mathison 7 1 6 14.3% Marangi 7 0 7 0.0% O'Connell 6 1 4 1 20.0% Dufek 5 1 4 20.0% Lamonica 4 4 0 100.0% Flores 4 1 2 1 37.5% Lucas 4 1 3 25.0% Dorow 4 0 4 0.0% Reynolds 3 2 1 66.7% Harris 3 0 3 0.0% Rutkowski 3 0 3 0.0% Stephenson3 0 3 0.0% McClure 1 1 0 100.0% Brodhead 1 1 0 100.0% Totten 1 0 1 0.0% Brohm 1 0 1 0.0% Manucci 1 0 1 0.0% Hart 1 0 1 0.0% It's easy to look at won/losses to evaluate a QB but it's not always the real picture. Fergy was a pretty decent QB but played on several teams with horrible D's. I remember many games lost in shootouts 37-42 or 48-50. You can't lay that on the QB. I also remember Flutie being pretty bad the year he was benched for Johnson but had a good record thanks to the D and special teams.
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