JPS Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Brian Orakpo played LINEBACKER last year on a team devoid of linebackers. Aaron Maybin's bosses put him at DEFENSIVE END on a team with veteran defensive ends. Orakpo probably would have had similar production on the Bills as the coach was trying to save his job. Another interesting Orakpo stat: He had 8 or so of his 11 sacks against the likes of Oakland, Tampa, KC and Detroit with NO sacks and about 8 total tackles in 6 games against the NFC EAST. To compare Maybin's '09 season to Orakpo is like comparing Malcolm Jenkins to Jairus Byrd.
DarthICE Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Brian Orakpo played LINEBACKER last year on a team devoid of linebackers. Aaron Maybin's bosses put him at DEFENSIVE END on a team with veteran defensive ends. Orakpo probably would have had similar production on the Bills as the coach was trying to save his job. Another interesting Orakpo stat: He had 8 or so of his 11 sacks against the likes of Oakland, Tampa, KC and Detroit with NO sacks and about 8 total tackles in 6 games against the NFC EAST. To compare Maybin's '09 season to Orakpo is like comparing Malcolm Jenkins to Jairus Byrd. Denial isn't just a river in egypt I see.
qwksilver Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Brian Orakpo played LINEBACKER last year on a team devoid of linebackers. Aaron Maybin's bosses put him at DEFENSIVE END on a team with veteran defensive ends. Orakpo probably would have had similar production on the Bills as the coach was trying to save his job. Another interesting Orakpo stat: He had 8 or so of his 11 sacks against the likes of Oakland, Tampa, KC and Detroit with NO sacks and about 8 total tackles in 6 games against the NFC EAST. To compare Maybin's '09 season to Orakpo is like comparing Malcolm Jenkins to Jairus Byrd. Another interesting stat: Maybin had ZERO sacks against the entire schedule last year.
Dr. Fong Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 If you still can't come to terms with it being a mistake to pick Maybin over Orakpo then I got nothing for you.
JohnC Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Brian Orakpo played LINEBACKER last year on a team devoid of linebackers. Aaron Maybin's bosses put him at DEFENSIVE END on a team with veteran defensive ends. Orakpo probably would have had similar production on the Bills as the coach was trying to save his job. Another interesting Orakpo stat: He had 8 or so of his 11 sacks against the likes of Oakland, Tampa, KC and Detroit with NO sacks and about 8 total tackles in 6 games against the NFC EAST. To compare Maybin's '09 season to Orakpo is like comparing Malcolm Jenkins to Jairus Byrd. You need to be ignored or mocked. Some things are so obvious that they should be dismissed out of hand. Your topic falls in that ignominious category.
JohnC Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Another interesting stat: Maybin had ZERO sacks against the entire schedule last year. If Maybin had zero sacks then why was he always hooting and hollering and dancing around after he came up late to the play when it was over? Maybe he is a clown and likes to entertain the massess. He certainly isn't make plays!
Zulu Cthulhu Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 It seems a lot of the criticism leveled at Maybin related not only to his performance, but also his lack of size. Maybe it is a bit unfair to compare the two based on performance since they played different positions last year. But no Maybin supporter can deny that Orakpo just looks the part, moreso than Maybin. Some posters (not me) even think Maybin's too light to play 3-4 OLB. Regardless, this season we will be able to compare the two, and I think Orakpo will still outperform him. Plus, for a guy drafted as high as Maybin was, I don't care where he played on the defense, his TOTAL lack of production last year was unacceptable. High first round picks should be able to contribute at least a little right away.
Beerball Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Another interesting Orakpo stat: He had 8 or so of his 11 sacks against the likes of Oakland, Tampa, KC and Detroit with NO sacks and about 8 total tackles in 6 games against the NFC EAST. Wow, that sounds eerily similar to a certain PSU DE who padded his stats against the likes of Coastal Carolina and Syracuse. Great point JPS. And yet that same coach who was fighting for his job chose him. Stupid, huh?
ACor58 Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Brian Orakpo played LINEBACKER last year on a team devoid of linebackers. Aaron Maybin's bosses put him at DEFENSIVE END on a team with veteran defensive ends. Orakpo probably would have had similar production on the Bills as the coach was trying to save his job. Another interesting Orakpo stat: He had 8 or so of his 11 sacks against the likes of Oakland, Tampa, KC and Detroit with NO sacks and about 8 total tackles in 6 games against the NFC EAST. To compare Maybin's '09 season to Orakpo is like comparing Malcolm Jenkins to Jairus Byrd. Are you Mr. Maybin or LaVar Arrington?
grelit Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Brian Orakpo played LINEBACKER last year on a team devoid of linebackers. Aaron Maybin's bosses put him at DEFENSIVE END on a team with veteran defensive ends. Orakpo probably would have had similar production on the Bills as the coach was trying to save his job. Another interesting Orakpo stat: He had 8 or so of his 11 sacks against the likes of Oakland, Tampa, KC and Detroit with NO sacks and about 8 total tackles in 6 games against the NFC EAST. To compare Maybin's '09 season to Orakpo is like comparing Malcolm Jenkins to Jairus Byrd. Orakpo played for a coach trying to save his job as well in Jim Zorn.....we need to stop making excuses for bad players....(Trent Edwards Aaron Maybin etc)
Red Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Orakpo has a better haircut. Maybin's frohawk was just stupid.
JPS Posted May 19, 2010 Author Posted May 19, 2010 I am not defending Aaron Maybin, although I think he has to be better at LB. I am saying that it's ignorant to compare a LBs stat against a DE. Like you know Orakpo would have had 10 plus sacks on the Bills as a DE. I truly apologize for pointing out your ignorance. Go on about your whining and bitching.
Endless Ike Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 I don't ccare about Maybin's size, to a certain extent I don't even care that he didn't have flashy numbers, he's young, the team sucks, there's time for all that. What i do care about is the number of times he got absolutely manhandled. Not only hasn't he made an impact, he doesn't look like he even belongs on the field.
Endless Ike Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 I am not defending Aaron Maybin, although I think he has to be better at LB. I am saying that it's ignorant to compare a LBs stat against a DE. Like you know Orakpo would have had 10 plus sacks on the Bills as a DE. I truly apologize for pointing out your ignorance. Go on about your whining and bitching. He doesn't need to have 10 sacks asa Bills DE, only one
Beerball Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 I am not defending Aaron Maybin, although I think he has to be better at LB. I am saying that it's ignorant to compare a LBs stat against a DE. Like you know Orakpo would have had 10 plus sacks on the Bills as a DE. I truly apologize for pointing out your ignorance. Go on about your whining and bitching. You're the one doing the whining and bitching. Maybin was pathetic last year. Orakpo was not pathetic. Maybin had zero sacks and barely saw the field in 09. You can't defend that so I'm glad you're not trying.
Green Lightning Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 If you still can't come to terms with it being a mistake to pick Maybin over Orakpo then I got nothing for you. I'm having a very difficult time finding any holes in the above argument. Maybe A. Maybin becomes the next C. Bennett, but, um....I think I"m with Dr. Fong on this.
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 I am not defending Aaron Maybin, although I think he has to be better at LB. I am saying that it's ignorant to compare a LBs stat against a DE. Like you know Orakpo would have had 10 plus sacks on the Bills as a DE. I truly apologize for pointing out your ignorance. Go on about your whining and bitching. So what you're saying is that we should stop the Orakpo comparison's to Maybin, because after comparing them, you've found that there's no comparison? And if anyone disagrees with your comparison they're ignorant? I think you picked the wrong avenue to make statements you don't want anyone to respond to. You might even say, that's ignorant of you.
1B4IDie Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 It seems a lot of the criticism leveled at Maybin related not only to his performance, but also his lack of size. Maybe it is a bit unfair to compare the two based on performance since they played different positions last year. But no Maybin supporter can deny that Orakpo just looks the part, moreso than Maybin. Some posters (not me) even think Maybin's too light to play 3-4 OLB. Regardless, this season we will be able to compare the two, and I think Orakpo will still outperform him. Plus, for a guy drafted as high as Maybin was, I don't care where he played on the defense, his TOTAL lack of production last year was unacceptable. High first round picks should be able to contribute at least a little right away. +1 The hold out is really what started the loathing. Not only was he clearly not the best 'Tweener on the board at #11, he held out to get paid like he was picked #10 then looked horrible on the field the few times the coaches could let him get on the field. I've said in the past if you put Orakpo and Mapbi in cage together and only 1 could leave; Its pretty clear who would win. (playing DE has alot to do with hand to hand combat.) It was just a plainly obvious h.orrible pick and the comparisons to Orakpo will always happen with Maybi throught his career. Maybe Maybi can use that as motivation. Most likely he'll just stare at himself in the mirror while tweeting Don't forget that Orakpo actually DID PLAY DE! He wasn't converted to LB until week 5 or 6. If Maybi was any good, and gave the Bills a chance to win, a coach that is trying to save his job would put him on the field. Maybi has alot of growing up to do. I'm hoping atleast 15 pounds to be exact.
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