CardinalScotts Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Honestly, I think the way Kyle Orton plays now is probably what Trent Edwards looks like when he is not playing off his back. Essentially, put Edwards in Denver last season and he puts up identical numbers. They're the same QB except Orton seems a lot more durable than Trent does. Bullseye- they are very much alike other than Orton is much more durable and much more of a leader. Off the board - Edwards would not put up identical numbers to Orton part of playing QB is being there every week
CardinalScotts Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Honestly, I think the way Kyle Orton plays now is probably what Trent Edwards looks like when he is not playing off his back. Essentially, put Edwards in Denver last season and he puts up identical numbers. They're the same QB except Orton seems a lot more durable than Trent does. Bullseye- they are very much alike other than Orton is much more durable and much more of a leader. Off the board - Edwards would not put up identical numbers to Orton part of playing QB is being there every week
thebandit27 Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 I think some of you need to pay attention to the facts before you claim that Orton is no better than the current crop of QBs on the roster. - The guy threw for 3,800 yards, 21 TDs, and 12 INTs in 2009. - He also had a YPA of 7.0, better than that of guys like Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan, and Matt Hasselbeck. - His completion percentage was 62.7, better than that of Donovan McNabb and Matt Ryan. - He ranked 14th in the NFL in QB rating. - He ranked 13th in the NFL in passes completed for 1st downs (want the list of guys that ranked ahead of him? P. Manning, Schaub, Brady, Favre, Brees, Rivers, Romo, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Warner, Campbell, Flacco) And he accomplished all of it while benefitting from a running game that was only slightly worse than Buffalo's: Buffalo: 424 car, 1,867 yds, 4.4 ypc, 116.7 ypg, 6 TDs Denver: 440 car, 1,836 yds, 4.2 ypc, 114.8 ypg, 9 TDs Refresh my memory as to why this guy "sucks" again?
mob16151 Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 I think some of you need to pay attention to the facts before you claim that Orton is no better than the current crop of QBs on the roster. - The guy threw for 3,800 yards, 21 TDs, and 12 INTs in 2009. - He also had a YPA of 7.0, better than that of guys like Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan, and Matt Hasselbeck. - His completion percentage was 62.7, better than that of Donovan McNabb and Matt Ryan. - He ranked 14th in the NFL in QB rating. - He ranked 13th in the NFL in passes completed for 1st downs (want the list of guys that ranked ahead of him? P. Manning, Schaub, Brady, Favre, Brees, Rivers, Romo, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Warner, Campbell, Flacco) And he accomplished all of it while benefitting from a running game that was only slightly worse than Buffalo's: Buffalo: 424 car, 1,867 yds, 4.4 ypc, 116.7 ypg, 6 TDs Denver: 440 car, 1,836 yds, 4.2 ypc, 114.8 ypg, 9 TDs Refresh my memory as to why this guy "sucks" again? Quit making sense.......
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 I think some of you need to pay attention to the facts before you claim that Orton is no better than the current crop of QBs on the roster. - The guy threw for 3,800 yards, 21 TDs, and 12 INTs in 2009. - He also had a YPA of 7.0, better than that of guys like Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan, and Matt Hasselbeck. - His completion percentage was 62.7, better than that of Donovan McNabb and Matt Ryan. - He ranked 14th in the NFL in QB rating. - He ranked 13th in the NFL in passes completed for 1st downs (want the list of guys that ranked ahead of him? P. Manning, Schaub, Brady, Favre, Brees, Rivers, Romo, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Warner, Campbell, Flacco) And he accomplished all of it while benefitting from a running game that was only slightly worse than Buffalo's: Buffalo: 424 car, 1,867 yds, 4.4 ypc, 116.7 ypg, 6 TDs Denver: 440 car, 1,836 yds, 4.2 ypc, 114.8 ypg, 9 TDs Refresh my memory as to why this guy "sucks" again? He also won more games than the "stud" QB he was trading for. But Cutler has a rocket arm. Orton is a solid NFL QB. However, I do think the Edwards' comparison are somewhat valid. Orton is more durable and probably goes downfield more but they have similar traits. At this point, I'd rather see what Brohm or Brown have if Edwards doesn't win the job.
apuszczalowski Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 If I had the choice, I wouldlet them keep Orton and go for Quinn. Atleast Quinn has more upside With Orton, you get what you've seen
davefan66 Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 If I had the choice, I wouldlet them keep Orton and go for Quinn. Atleast Quinn has more upside With Orton, you get what you've seen Yep, just wins. Orton isn't the best QB in the league, but would be an upgrade over all our guys but Brohm. I say give Brohm a real shot and see what he does before we trade for another QB (unless it's one of the Mannings). Not saying Brohm is going to be a great, or even serviceable, NFL QB but I'd like to see what he can do. As for Orton, always liked the guy. Just seems to win.
tomc702 Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Honestly, I think the way Kyle Orton plays now is probably what Trent Edwards looks like when he is not playing off his back. Essentially, put Edwards in Denver last season and he puts up identical numbers. They're the same QB except Orton seems a lot more durable than Trent does. exactly.....well put......we've got what we've got and we're going to camp with it. this group has no idea what they possess yet, so paying anything else for kyle orton would be a waste, no matter how small. this is like that show about hording.....we don't need any more mediocre QB's......no matter what the cost.....FREE is different, ala jamarcus russell - not that i want that - but it's free........don't part with any draft choices for more backups
grelit Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 I think some of you need to pay attention to the facts before you claim that Orton is no better than the current crop of QBs on the roster. - The guy threw for 3,800 yards, 21 TDs, and 12 INTs in 2009. - He also had a YPA of 7.0, better than that of guys like Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan, and Matt Hasselbeck. - His completion percentage was 62.7, better than that of Donovan McNabb and Matt Ryan. - He ranked 14th in the NFL in QB rating. - He ranked 13th in the NFL in passes completed for 1st downs (want the list of guys that ranked ahead of him? P. Manning, Schaub, Brady, Favre, Brees, Rivers, Romo, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Warner, Campbell, Flacco) And he accomplished all of it while benefitting from a running game that was only slightly worse than Buffalo's: Buffalo: 424 car, 1,867 yds, 4.4 ypc, 116.7 ypg, 6 TDs Denver: 440 car, 1,836 yds, 4.2 ypc, 114.8 ypg, 9 TDs Refresh my memory as to why this guy "sucks" again? +1
please stop the pain Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Regardless of how much in love with Tebow and Quinn they are, isn't it pretty friggin unlikely that they would cut their starting QB before training camp??
Mark Vader Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Glad to join the forum. This is my first response. I am a long time Bills fan living in San Diego. I have to agree Orton would be an upgrade to our pathetic QB roster. It could give us a win or two more this year... That is just not enough for me to want him. We still wouldn't make the playoffs and we still would need a franchise QB. Just my two sense... Welcome to TBD. I assume that you are with the San Diego Bills Backers? I've been down there the last couple of times the Bills have played and the SDBB'ers always throw a great party.
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