Buddy stated that he wanted a scatback...

[John from Riverside]

I actually have no problem with these types of posts and honestly thought it was well thought out....

 

This is my response.....you just dont know what other teams are going to do in the draft.....yeah the bills could have traded down (if they had a partner) and took Best.....but what if someone already picked him....what if both Spiller AND Best were off the board.....

 

The bills just made the draft really really simple...they simply took the player that may well be the best overall player in the 1st round......and they left it at that.

[Thoner7]

WHY DOESN'T ANYONE UNDERSTAND, THE FRONT OFFICE GOT EXACTLY WHO THEY WANTED!

 

The reason why they didn't wait on Spiller and try to pick up a Scat Back later in the draft is because THEY WANTED SPILLER and not someone else. They felt from their interviews and evaluations that they wanted Spiller

 

Theres nothing you can do about it but whine and cry, and apply for the GM job when it becomes available

 

That is exactly what scares me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

""Dolphins coach Tony Sparano raved about RG Richie Incognito's "fast-twitch" power.""

The Dolphins' offensive line is known for its power, a trait that Incognito also possesses. "He's knocking people down with his hands," said Sparano. Miami will have one of the top offensive lines in the league once again this season. Incognito will be an asset if he avoids boneheaded penalties.

 

Word. I was a tad upset when the braintrust let this guy go. But hey, what's another year or two with a porous OL?

[DanInUticaTampa]

Here's another question.

 

Would you rather spend a top-10 on Spiller, or trade your fifth round pick for a proven scat-back in Leon Washington?

 

Depends if you want an RB for 1 year or 6-8 years.

[Ozymandius]

That was a very good post, SJ Bills Fan. Don't let the haters bring you down (not that you have).

 

Look, I like the Spiller back but I realize the potential for it to look bad in a few years if he's no more productive than Best and McCluster. We'll see what happens.

[Sig1Hunter]

I don't really have an opinion on the topic, but any post by SJ Bills Fan is always a great read. This one is no different.

 

And, saying that Leonidas is mercurial is like calling the sky blue!

[Wilson from Gamehendge]

I don't understand how a guy who is 5-11, 195lbs...is a "scatback"?

 

 

I would think a scatback is someone more in the mold of a McCluster...5-8, 170lbs...

[Gabe Northern]

Great post. Nice work.

 

I think Bulaga was the pick...10 picks later after a trade down.

[Gabe Northern]

Great post. Nice work.

 

I think Bulaga was the pick...10 picks later after a trade down.

[Steely Dan]

Best also had the fastest 40-time of all running backs at the NFL Combine.

 

Snipped by me

 

According to PFW 2010 Draft Preview Spiller ran 4.31 and Best ran 4.36

 

Lindy's Sports Pro Football Draft 2010 has Spiller running a 4.37 and Best running a 4.42

 

Fanball.com Pro Football Draft 2010 has Spiller running a 4.37 and Best running a 4.35

 

PFW's Draft Guide 2010 has Spiller running a 4.35 and Best running a 4.40.

 

Only one of the guides has him running a faster 40 time than Spiller.

 

Here's the breakdown on both players by TSN;

 

Here's TSN on Jahvid Best, They have him running a 4.35 and rank him as the 4th best RB in the draft.

 

Jahvid Best

RB, California

 

War Room analysis

 

Best is an explosive playmaker, but he is a major injury concern. Not only did he suffer two concussions in 2009, but he has also struggled to stay on the field with back and elbow injuries. This appears to be more of a need pick for Detroit, and is certainly a risk -- especially considering they traded within their division.

PRE-DRAFT ANALYSIS

Inside running: Shows good patience, allowing the play to open up and then shows the explosiveness to blow through the hole. Must add bulk to become a better short-yardage back when holes don't develop. Shows the skill and speed to bounce runs outside. Grade: 8.5

Outside running: Is effective on speed alone, but his cutback ability keeps defenders honest. Once he sees daylight, it is off to the races. Must improve open-field moves; too often loses balance when making moves and thus is easy to tackle. Grade: 7.5

 

Blocking: Hasn't been asked to block often, but seems willing. Stays in front of his assignment and works hard. Must learn to gain better leverage to block NFL blitzers. Upon contact, must learn to keep feet moving. Grade:8.5

Hands/routes: Looks natural catching passes, and is exciting once he has the ball. Gets upfield in a hurry. Must learn to run sharper routes. Lacks urgency until after catching the ball. Is a matchup nightmare based solely on speed. Grade:8.0

Durability: Has taken on every challenge. Rarely takes a big hit, which allows him to stay healthy. Must add bulk, which shouldn't be a problem, to be an every-down back. Has concerns because of a concussion that ended his senior season. Grade: 7.0

 

Bottom line: Best is a big-play weapon with the natural ability as a runner and receiver and make game-changing plays. The big concern is how easy he is to tackle. He almost never runs through arm tackles and is easily tripped up. There is little doubt about hisphysical ability, but his lack of size and concerns about his concussion will knock down his value. Best could go in the second or third round and become a third-down back, slot receiver and return man.

 

Vinnie Iyer analysis

Detroit must have really liked Best's all-around playmaking skills -- as a rusher, receiver and return man -- to make this move up into the late first round. There are questions about his durability as a smaller athlete, so the Lions need to put Best in the right part-time role for him to remain explosive.

 

Correspondent Analysis

 

How he fits: The Lions were desperate for a running back because they needed some speed and explosion in the backfield to complement their passing attack. The team has made moves this offseason -- signing free-agent receiver Nate Burleson and trading for tight end Tony Scheffler -- with the goal of pulling coverage away from star receiver Calvin Johnson. Also, the Lions want to surround young quarterback Matthew Stafford with as many weapons as possible. Best has great speed and will force opposing safeties to respect play-action fakes.

When he'll play: Immediately. The Lions were going to target a running back even before Kevin Smith suffered a serious knee injury last December. Best will get the bulk of the carries, but he'll share some of the workload with Maurice Morris early in the season. The Lions will have to keep an aye on the 200-pound Best's carries because they need him to be as fresh as possible throughout the season. -- Tom Kowalski

 

TSN on CJ Spiller, they have him running a 4.36 forty and rank him as the best RB in the draft.

 

C.J. Spiller

RB, Clemson

 

War Room analysis

 

Spiller is another surprise pick considering Buffalo's current backfield situation and need at tackle, but he is a game-changing explosive athlete. He needs to prove he can withstand the constant pounding he will receive in the NFL, but his speed and athleticism are on par with that of the Titans' Chris Johnson.

 

PRE-DRAFT ANALYSIS

Inside running: Can be a dangerous, but is inconsistent. Is quick to identify a crease and explode into it. Shows the balance, agility and strength to run through arm tackles, but doesn't break many tackles. Is a bit of an upright runner, leaving body susceptible to hard hits. Doesn't lower shoulders to deliver blows to defenders. Is a dangerous cutback runner, showing a sharp "jump cut" to explode through holes. Can freeze defenders in the hole and explode past them. Grade: 7.5

 

Outside running: Is a threat to score on every touch because of rare athleticism, speed, balance and strength. Is patient waiting for blockers to open a hole or seal the edge. Is an explosive cutback runner. Keeps legs churning, and fights for every yard. Grade: 8.5

 

Blocking: Lacks experience. Wasn't asked to lead block on any running plays in the games we evaluated. In pass protection, gives a solid effort and shows enough strength to be effective. Must be more aggressive and use better technique. Grade: 5.5

 

Hands/routes: Is not polished, but has all the tools. Is quick and explosive down the sideline and when aligned in the slot. Shows the quickness, explosiveness and speed to consistently separate from defenders. Shows good hands, and catches the ball well; twists body nicely to adjust to off-target passes. Grade: 6.5

Durability: Is the issue that could keep him from becoming an elite NFL back. Is strong and well built, but had trouble staying healthy in college. Shared the workload until senior season. Grade: 5.5

 

Bottom line: Spiller surprised us by returning to Clemson for his senior season because players with his rare big-play ability usually jump at the chance to enter the draft. He would've been a first-round pick in '09 but improved his stock as a senior, showing improved inside running and receiving skills. Spiller gets personnel men excited because he has all the tools to be an NFL star, someone who makes big plays from a variety of alignments.

Vinnie Iyer analysis

This pick signals the end of the Marshawn Lynch era. Buffalo had some bigger needs, notably offensive tackle, but instead went with a dynamic playmaker who can spark it in both the running and return games. The Bills needed someone to bring excitement to their offense.

Correspondent Analysis

 

How he fits: Spiller gives the Bills an explosive playmaker with game-breaking speed and the ability to score from anywhere on the field and in a variety of roles. His size and all-purpose ability as a rusher, receiver and return specialist have drawn comparisons to those of Reggie Bush. That also suggests Spiller is not built to carry a heavy-duty load. But he has shown the toughness to run inside like a back of similar stature, Tennessee's Chris Johnson. Spiller needs to work on blitz pickup, but it's doubtful he'll be asked to remain in the backfield on passing downs.

When he'll play: Adding Spiller creates a logjam in the backfield. He joins Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch, who could be on the trade block. But neither Jackson nor Lynch offers the threat of the home run every time he touches the ball. The Bills didn't take Spiller in the top 10 to be a part-time player. He will see a lot of action immediately on offense and special teams. -- Allen Wilson

[Bill from NYC]

No offense, but I don't believe you. Not for a second. Your opinion on the matter has turned into dogma. As far as I can tell, your point of view is that there are only 8-9 football players from both teams on the field at any one time - the rest are irrelevant show ponies. I also think you hope Spiller is a miserable failure, because that would support your argument. Heck, I'm not even sure you've said a single decent thing about the guy, while taking every chance you can to marginalize him. That doesn't sound like anyone who wishes success for someone. But that's just me...

 

Scott.....I made my first trek to RWS in 1994 and have been up every year since. We do it nice too. I have devoted quite a bit of time and a ton of money to the Bills, and my daughters are sincere Bills fans. It's a shame we haven't met yet, but if we had I am thinking that you would clearly see that the Bills winning football games is one of my greatest desires in life.

 

We talked about me. I would like to talk about you. I for one always wished you would post more. Throughout the years you have posted some great stuff. Here are my top 3:

1) You posted that you are "more of a fan on Bills Fans than a fan of the Bills," and explained this in detail.

2) You defended the selection of Trent Edwards. You did it in such an articulate way thet you changed my mind about it and I agree with you still.

3) You blasted JP when he missed an open receiver against Denver on the last play of a game.

 

Great stuff!!!!

 

Because of you and this site, I have made many close friends, some are now actually long term. I will always thank you for this. I hope that you will post more football stuff, and that we can share our views as to what will work to make the Bills a better team, and how it will or can happen.

 

To end this post (which sadly is probably starting to sound like a sob story), I give you this....

You are far more educated than me but I am back in school. My psych prof always speaks of the value of testing. Imo, the Bills method of drafting first round "skill players," while neglecting the lines, is a proven system of failure. I would enjoy the chance to talk with you and other posters as to what should make us think that the Spiller selection will work, where other similar selections failed so miserably in terms of winning football games.

 

Thanks again for everything, and GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Depends if you want an RB for 1 year or 6-8 years.

 

I would say the comparison is more like 2 years (Washington) versus maybe 5 years (Spiller--rookie contract).

 

Unless Spiller turns into Chris Johnson, I don't see how you break the bank on a guy like that once his rookie deal expires.

[eball]

I would say the comparison is more like 2 years (Washington) versus maybe 5 years (Spiller--rookie contract).

 

Unless Spiller turns into Chris Johnson, I don't see how you break the bank on a guy like that once his rookie deal expires.

I REALLY hope we have to deal with this "problem."

[C.Biscuit97]

Scott.....I made my first trek to RWS in 1994 and have been up every year since. We do it nice too. I have devoted quite a bit of time and a ton of money to the Bills, and my daughters are sincere Bills fans. It's a shame we haven't met yet, but if we had I am thinking that you would clearly see that the Bills winning football games is one of my greatest desires in life.

 

We talked about me. I would like to talk about you. I for one always wished you would post more. Throughout the years you have posted some great stuff. Here are my top 3:

1) You posted that you are "more of a fan on Bills Fans than a fan of the Bills," and explained this in detail.

2) You defended the selection of Trent Edwards. You did it in such an articulate way thet you changed my mind about it and I agree with you still.

3) You blasted JP when he missed an open receiver against Denver on the last play of a game.

 

Great stuff!!!!

 

Because of you and this site, I have made many close friends, some are now actually long term. I will always thank you for this. I hope that you will post more football stuff, and that we can share our views as to what will work to make the Bills a better team, and how it will or can happen.

 

To end this post (which sadly is probably starting to sound like a sob story), I give you this....

You are far more educated than me but I am back in school. My psych prof always speaks of the value of testing. Imo, the Bills method of drafting first round "skill players," while neglecting the lines, is a proven system of failure. I would enjoy the chance to talk with you and other posters as to what should make us think that the Spiller selection will work, where other similar selections failed so miserably in terms of winning football games.

 

Thanks again for everything, and GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

I wanted Bulaga and was completely against a rb. However, the Bills didn't feel Bulaga was a surefire LT and neither di a lot of other times. In the top top 10 of the draft, you need homeruns. Spiller was the player most likely to be a homerun. Spiller was a dominant college player.

 

As for Best, the Pac 10 is a garbage defensive conference and Best is a walking injury. McCluster is a ball palyer for sure but would you really feel great about drafting a slow, undersized scatback that high? I wouldn't.

 

For some reason Bill, you believe oline are only found in the first round. Of the top of my head, I don't beleive the Chargers, Colts, or Steelers have any 1st round olinemen. Now the obvious concern is how bad our scouting department has been. However if Nix lives up to his rep, you can find starters later in the draft.

 

Personally, I would relax and let the season play out. But I'm sure once you see Spiller play, your thoughts will change. He is a potential touchdown on every play. When's the last time we could say that about a Bill?

[MRW]

Personally, I would relax and let the season play out. But I'm sure once you see Spiller play, your thoughts will change. He is a potential touchdown on every play. When's the last time we could say that about a Bill?

Depends, do you mean a touchdown for the Bills or just a touchdown being scored by someone?