Gugny Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 Tell that to Doc. Doc was better before he got into the nose candy. Same with Strawberry. Without drugs, they'd both be in Cooperstown right now (no, not as patrons!).
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 I haven't read this whole thread yet, but has anyone suggested the idea that it might be in Cushing's best interest from a fan standpoint...to just plain give the award back?
Gugny Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 I haven't read this whole thread yet, but has anyone suggested the idea that it might be in Cushing's best interest from a fan standpoint...to just plain give the award back? Good point, but judging from how he responded, I think it's unlikely ... "I was just glad to hear the news, that people stuck by me. Very honored," Cushing said. "I'm very happy to have the award once again, and I'm just happy with how everything turned out."
Delete This Account Posted May 12, 2010 Author Posted May 12, 2010 Looks like we're gearing up to run John out of here like we did with Tim Graham. Be mad over the fact that Cushing the Cheater won the DROY, but don't blame the AP. Blame the 18 ostriches who stuck their heads in the sand and voted for him a second time. thanks. jw
LongLiveRalph Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 Quick...Who was last season's defensive rookie of the year? I'm willing to bet most of you can't name him without looking it up. (I honestly had no clue. And he was in the AFC East.) So who really cares??? Cushing won an award from sportswriters for on-field performance. The sportswriters and the AP are NOT the NFL. It is not their job to decide what is wrong and what is right and who should've been playing and who shouldn't have been playing. Their job is to vote on who performed the best, on the field. If the NFL says Cushing was allowed to play, then he is eligible for all awards. How are people more outraged about a worthless award and less outraged about the ridiculous 8-month process that spiraled from this failed September test??? What if Cushing had 14 tackles, two INT, two sacks, and a fumble recovery against the Bills, in a game he possibly should've been suspended for, and the Bills missed the playoffs by one game??? I can't believe this isn't the true issue here. Additionally, the NFL informed Cushing and the NFLPA, but not the Texans. That's just ridiculous. Anyways, Cushing failed his test in September, but subsequently passed five other tests throughout the season. And he's still going to miss four games and forfeit several hundred thousand dollars. It's the NFL's process, not the voters, who should feel this wrath.
GOBILLS78 Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 Doc was better before he got into the nose candy. Same with Strawberry. Without drugs, they'd both be in Cooperstown right now (no, not as patrons!). OK. Let's split the difference and say Dock, as in Dock Ellis, then.
Billsfan=pain Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 i'm extremely disapointed (sic) with your spelling as well as your comprehension abilities. however, your instinct for kneejerk reactions seems to be working well. jw Hey John, say whatever you want I am not the one that condones cheating. Sorry you lost all credibilty today! Obviously you have no other defense than to critique my grammar! Why don't you go write an article for that "mickey mouse" organization!
Delete This Account Posted May 12, 2010 Author Posted May 12, 2010 Hey John, say whatever you want I am not the one that condones cheating. Sorry you lost all credibilty today! Obviously you have no other defense than to critique my grammar! Why don't you go write an article for that "mickey mouse" organization! again, you're comprehension skills are lacking. i didn't just critique your grammar. jw
gordong Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 why: for re-opening the vote to a panel of 50 non-AP journalists, to determine whether Cushing should keep an award after testing positive for a banned substance. and the fact that 18 of those non-AP journalists voted in favor of Cushing somehow casts an ill light on the AP? YES an bunch of spineless jellyfish, that have NO regards for the rules.....The guy is a CHEATER...END OF STORY... unless your one of the 18 AP writers that doesn't care about winning at ANY COST. I only hope the name of these slugs come out. AP voting is a joke.....and they are a joke after giving a CHEATER an AWARD for CHEATING...period. Anyone trying to defend this is WRONG pure and simple....
Gugny Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 Hey John, say whatever you want I am not the one that condones cheating. Sorry you lost all credibilty today! Obviously you have no other defense than to critique my grammar! Why don't you go write an article for that "mickey mouse" organization! Speak for yourself, Billsfan=pain. Attack the individual "yes" voters; not the entire AP. And you should've capitalized Mickey Mouse.
Captain Caveman Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 Hey John, say whatever you want I am not the one that condones cheating. Sorry you lost all credibilty today! Obviously you have no other defense than to critique my grammar! Why don't you go write an article for that "mickey mouse" organization! Did you read any of the other posts? Did jw have a vote? - no Was the vote limited to AP writers? - no So you should probably stop attacking him. Also, it's spelled "credibility", and if you'd like to keep any you should think before you post.
Stevie Ray Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 Hey John, say whatever you want I am not the one that condones cheating. Sorry you lost all credibilty today! Obviously you have no other defense than to critique my grammar! Why don't you go write an article for that "mickey mouse" organization! Do you honestly not understand what is being said here? Seriously?
Gugny Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 OK. Let's split the difference and say Dock, as in Dock Ellis, then. I must admit ... I had to look that up. No hitter on LSD?!?! Learn something new every day!!
Captain Caveman Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 YES an bunch of spineless jellyfish, that have NO regards for the rules.....The guy is a CHEATER...END OF STORY... unless your one of the 18 AP writers that doesn't care about winning at ANY COST. I only hope the name of these slugs come out. AP voting is a joke.....and they are a joke after giving a CHEATER an AWARD for CHEATING...period. Anyone trying to defend this is WRONG pure and simple.... Seriously, did you even read the post? This was not voted on by AP writers. The AP organizes the vote, and the AP decided that a revote was in order. I'm really tired of people constantly bitching and moaning without taking the time to understand the issue.
Delete This Account Posted May 12, 2010 Author Posted May 12, 2010 YES an bunch of spineless jellyfish, that have NO regards for the rules.....The guy is a CHEATER...END OF STORY... unless your one of the 18 AP writers that doesn't care about winning at ANY COST. I only hope the name of these slugs come out. AP voting is a joke.....and they are a joke after giving a CHEATER an AWARD for CHEATING...period. Anyone trying to defend this is WRONG pure and simple.... to you and to billsfan=pain, read the list of voters and who they voted for for yourselves, and explain to me where the Associated Press "voted" for Cushing. AP NFL Defensive Rookie Voter Breakdown jw
Billsfan=pain Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 Did you read any of the other posts? Did jw have a vote? - no Was the vote limited to AP writers? - no So you should probably stop attacking him. Also, it's spelled "credibility", and if you'd like to keep any you should think before you post. I am not going to agrue with someone that calls himself Captain caveman! LOL!
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 to you and to billsfan=pain, read the list of voters and who they voted for for yourselves, and explain to me where the Associated Press "voted" for Cushing. AP NFL Defensive Rookie Voter Breakdown jw Berman is dead to me. BTW, like I how I lit the fuse on this thread and ran? tee hee
Billsfan=pain Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 to you and to billsfan=pain, read the list of voters and who they voted for for yourselves, and explain to me where the Associated Press "voted" for Cushing. AP NFL Defensive Rookie Voter Breakdown jw Hey Johnny Boy you wrote for twice! Not good grammar for someone from the AP! It wad the AP's decision to allow Cushing on the ballot! Why did they allow that John?
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 to you and to billsfan=pain, read the list of voters and who they voted for for yourselves, and explain to me where the Associated Press "voted" for Cushing. AP NFL Defensive Rookie Voter Breakdown jw This douchebag really changed his vote from Jairus Byrd TO Cushing! How do you possibly justify this move? CHANGED FROM JAIRUS BYRD (2) Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Brian Cushing)
Green Lightning Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 Hey John, say whatever you want I am not the one that condones cheating. Sorry you lost all credibilty today! Obviously you have no other defense than to critique my grammar! Why don't you go write an article for that "mickey mouse" organization! Look, JW didn't vote and didn't condone cheating! He merely said the AP was within its right to re-poll the NON-AP writers for a recount. Those writers were wrong, but the AP wasn't and JW shouldn't be beat up by people like you that won't read the damn facts! People like you ran off Tim Graham from our board, so back the Hell off and think before you write.
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