Obama to name Kagan for high court

[Wacka]

Why? He hasn't answered my question 5x. Thomas was a ****ty choice because for the land's highest judicial office, you should have the best legal minds. He wasn't one. But Thomas should still get the job because the president gets to pick, except if the pick is a total buttnugget.

 

The politicizing of federal court nominations is screwing up the federal courts. Forget the Supremes--you all know about them. It's damn near impossible to get judges through to the federal benches because each party blocks the presidential appointments except all but a few middle-of-the-road people. And that leaves the federal benches understaffed and worse, under-qualifiedly understaffed.

 

But asshats in Congress keep !@#$ing each other's nominees in a childish game while we as the citizens get weaker and weaker courts as a result.

 

You're a racist. The reason you don't like Thomas is that he is a conservative black man. Has to be an Uncle Tom, right?

[Wacka]

I don't ever vote for him but Arlen is a decent guy for a lifetime politician. He has the locker near mine at my gym and he's always upbeat and affable. He's got a guy who follows him around the gym with his phone--even in the lockerroom!

 

Arlen's workout regimen as I see it is lots of squash. Rendell also works out at my gym. He's lost a ton of lbs. and his regimen is mostly treadmill, though that big bastard looks like he could bench a house.

 

Specter is scum. He was a lawyer for Ira Eichorn in Philly. Eichorn was involved with a woman for 5 years. She broke up with him and moved to NYC. He lured her back to get her stuff and she disappeared. He killed her and kept her in a locker in the closest of his apartment for months. When the cops finally investigated the smell, and arrested him, he claimed it was a CIA plot to frame him.

 

Einhorn's bail was reduced to $40,000 at the request of his early-on attorney Arlen Specter; Einhorn was released from custody in advance of his trial by paying 10% of the bond's value, or $4,000. This bail was paid, not by Einhorn, but by Barbara Bronfman, a Montreal socialite and a member of the family that owns the Seagram liquor company.

 

In 1981, just days before his murder trial was to begin, Einhorn skipped bail and fled to Europe.

He lived there until tracked down and with the help of John Walsh of America's Most Wanted, got him back here where he is serving life.( Should have been executed).

[keepthefaith]

Specter is scum. He was a lawyer for Ira Eichorn in Philly. Eichorn was involved with a woman for 5 years. She broke up with him and moved to NYC. He lured her back to get her stuff and she disappeared. He killed her and kept her in a locker in the closest of his apartment for months. When the cops finally investigated the smell, and arrested him, he claimed it was a CIA plot to frame him.

 

Einhorn's bail was reduced to $40,000 at the request of his early-on attorney Arlen Specter; Einhorn was released from custody in advance of his trial by paying 10% of the bond's value, or $4,000. This bail was paid, not by Einhorn, but by Barbara Bronfman, a Montreal socialite and a member of the family that owns the Seagram liquor company.

 

In 1981, just days before his murder trial was to begin, Einhorn skipped bail and fled to Europe.

He lived there until tracked down and with the help of John Walsh of America's Most Wanted, got him back here where he is serving life.( Should have been executed).

 

I don't know if that makes Specter a scum. He did his job representing his client. Judge set the bail. I would say he's confused. I don't know how you could jump to the Democratic party in this political climate and support the wacky bills that have been passed after being a Republican for so long. The divide in the parties is as large as I can remember.

[Wacka]

I don't know if that makes Specter a scum. He did his job representing his client. Judge set the bail. I would say he's confused. I don't know how you could jump to the Democratic party in this political climate and support the wacky bills that have been passed after being a Republican for so long. The divide in the parties is as large as I can remember.

 

Easy when he was a RINO for years.

 

Specter is indeed scum. Didn't have to represent that murderer.

[John Adams]

You're a racist. The reason you don't like Thomas is that he is a conservative black man. Has to be an Uncle Tom, right?

 

The reason I don't like Thomas is that he was a poor choice because he lacked the intellect and experience that should be needed to be a SC Justice.

 

But note that once he was nominated, I thought the opposition (particularly the assinine Anita Hill stuff) was unfair and he should be approved. Even a president's bad choice, unless the nominee proves himself wholly unworthy of the nomination, should get approved. Thomas serves on the Court to the best of his ability. He's no Scalia or Roberts in intellect but he's fine. I just expect more than "fine" from a SC Justice.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Are you the same guy who said a few yrs ago that organized religion is for suckers?

 

Yes, I was. People can change, you know. In fact, if you're static in your belief, are you really going?

 

I'm not alone in changing in this position. Consider the case of Anthony Flew or this guy. God really does perform miracles. One book that helped me change my mind: The Reason for God. If you can read Tim Keller and remain unconvinced, it will take an act of God Himself to make you believe.

[GG]

Yes, I was. People can change, you know. In fact, if you're static in your belief, are you really going?

 

I'm not alone in changing in this position. Consider the case of Anthony Flew or this guy. God really does perform miracles. One book that helped me change my mind: The Reason for God. If you can read Tim Keller and remain unconvinced, it will take an act of God Himself to make you believe.

 

People absolutely change and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The concern, always is the change at the extremes. There usually is a broad strip between a dyed in the wool atheist and a reconstituted pious follower.

 

A healthy dose of scepticism served mankind very well through the ages, including those who question G-d from within and without, and more particularly questioning of men who establish institutions that are meant to honor His existence.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

People absolutely change and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The concern, always is the change at the extremes. There usually is a broad strip between a dyed in the wool atheist and a reconstituted pious follower.

 

A healthy dose of scepticism served mankind very well through the ages, including those who question G-d from within and without, and more particularly questioning of men who establish institutions that are meant to honor His existence.

 

Indeed, God asks us to come and reason with him. After all, he's the creator of the universe. He ought to be able to answer our questions. We may not like the answers, but he's faithful to hear our prayer if we ask.

[John Adams]

Yes, I was. People can change, you know. In fact, if you're static in your belief, are you really going?

 

I'm not alone in changing in this position. Consider the case of Anthony Flew or this guy. God really does perform miracles. One book that helped me change my mind: The Reason for God. If you can read Tim Keller and remain unconvinced, it will take an act of God Himself to make you believe.

 

So 9 months ago you wouldn't have thought I was going to hell and now you're quoting the Bible at me?

 

Let me know when you change back.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

So 9 months ago you wouldn't have thought I was going to hell and now you're quoting the Bible at me?

 

Let me know when you change back.

 

 

More like two years, it's only recently that I've been confident enough to express it.

 

And I'm not changing back. By the way, you won't go to hell for supporting gay marraige. There's only one reason people go to hell.

[IDBillzFan]

There's only one reason people go to hell.

Playing Farmville during work hours?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Playing Farmville during work hours?

 

 

 

If only.

[John Adams]

There's only one reason people go to hell.

 

I root for the Bills. It's a short fall.

[Booster4324]

I root for the Bills. It's a short fall.

 

It may take you a while to notice a difference.

[Peevo]

This is ridiculous. Everyone's such a constitutional law expert in this post yet hasn't cited one case, one dictum, nor one opinion to back up anything they actually "know" to be true.

 

If Kagan makes the Court, which she most likely will, its trading a staunch liberal in Stevens for a center-leftist. The court's dynamic really doesn't change very much.

 

Bush got Roberts and Alito in the court, both strong conservatives. Scalia and Thomas are arguably MUCH more conservative than even Stevens was liberal. My con law professor explained once that Thomas doesn't even want to hear ORAL ARGUMENTS in session. He's such an old timer that if a case makes the High Court, it's already been deliberated to a point where no arguments need be made further beyond amici brief.

 

Please people, do some research and not just regurgitate pundits on websites.

 

A great example, is the concept of "substantive due process." A staunchly CONSERVATIVE court found a "substantive" element to the 14th amendment due process clause, "the right to contract." Read Lochner v New York. It's as liberal a stretch as finding a constitutional right to abortion was in 1973. So yes, even conservative courts can stretch the constitution to whatever they find fit. "The law is, and nothing more pretentious, what judges say it is"-Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes 1897. http://www.constitution.org/lrev/owh/path_law.htm

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochner_v_New_York

 

No, I'm not a con law scholar, nor expert, but I've taken 4 con law classes. I've read the case law, its super dry, trust me.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I've read the case law, its super dry, trust me.

 

I trust you. I don't know how anyone can stand to be a lawyer. My grandfather was a lawyer, and he had stacks upon stacks of books and journals in his house. When he died, my folks had to go through it all, it took almost three days. I like reading as much as anyone, but man...don't think I could handle that.

[erynthered]

obama on SC nominee Harriet Myers. Do as I say not as I do, it seems.

[John Adams]

obama on SC nominee Harriet Myers. Do as I say not as I do, it seems.

 

His anti-Roberts stance is even less defensible. He opposed him not because of his qualifications, which he did not question, but because of his "overarching ideology."

 

Miers sabotaged herself. She was a mess in the nomination process. You have to at least jump through the hoops. If you do that and don't burn the place down, you usually get nominated.

[KD in CA]

Playing Farmville during work hours?

 

Come on, my pigs needed harvesting....

[Magox]

I guess she has a soft spot in her heart for socialists, unions and radicals.

 

 

Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan’s undergraduate thesis at Princeton University in 1981 was mostly a clinical analysis of the socialist movement in the United States, but in her conclusion she expressed disappointment that “labor radicalism” had failed to gain political prominence.

 

Kagan, in her 130-page thesis, titled “To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933,” sought to explain “why the growing and confident American socialist movement of the Progressive Era suddenly fell apart.”

 

Kagan’s thesis, in the end, was that infighting ultimately did in the movement.

 

“Through its own internal feuding, then, the [socialist Party] exhausted itself forever and further reduced labor radicalism in New York to the position of marginality and insignificance from which it has never recovered,” Kagan wrote. “The story is a sad but also a chastening one for those who, more than half a century after socialism’s decline, still wish to change America.”

 

“Radicals have often succumbed to the devastating bane of sectarianism; it is easier, after all, to fight one’s fellows than it is to battle an entrenched and powerful foe,” Kagan wrote. “Yet if the history of Local New York shows anything, it is that American radicals cannot afford to become their own worst enemies.”

 

“In unity lies their only hope.”

 

Though Kagan noted that it would be “absurd to overestimate” the Socialist Party in the U.S., she also said it had grown from 10,000 members in 1902 to 109,000 in 1919, and had built “a party press that included over 300 publications with an aggregate circulation of approximately 2 million.”