NFL Execs expect Gathier trade

[PromoTheRobot]

especially when that link claims the bills and ravens have agreed in "principal."

 

also, all that i see on shefter's twitter is that the deal is not done per the terms speculated.

 

and then there's this: http://twitter.com/PatrickMoranBSD/status/13623947268

Pat Moran = dingleberry on Schefter's butt hair.

 

PTR

[BillsGuyInMalta]

especially when that link claims the bills and ravens have agreed in "principal."

 

also, all that i see on shefter's twitter is that the deal is not done per the terms speculated.

 

and then there's this: http://twitter.com/PatrickMoranBSD/status/13623947268

While I agree that the Gaither trade is more than likely a pipe dream, Patrick Moran is not that much better than the original website that claims a deal is done. Moran has been called out countless times for simply making up stories and sources. My best guess is that he never emailed Schefter in the first place but is simply using his latest tweet as the basis for his own speculation.

 

I just dont see why the Ravens would rush to get this done. Why not wait it out a few months until training camp and then wait for injuries to pile up? I seriously doubt we'll see Gaither in a Bills uniform any time soon.

[uncle flap]

Pat Moran = dingleberry on Schefter's butt hair.

 

PTR

 

 

While I agree that the Gaither trade is more than likely a pipe dream, Patrick Moran is not that much better than the original website that claims a deal is done. Moran has been called out countless times for simply making up stories and sources. My best guess is that he never emailed Schefter in the first place but is simply using his latest tweet as the basis for his own speculation.

 

I just dont see why the Ravens would rush to get this done. Why not wait it out a few months until training camp and then wait for injuries to pile up? I seriously doubt we'll see Gaither in a Bills uniform any time soon.

 

Yes Moran is a wannabe of sorts and certainly isn't going to "break" any stories. I think the only reason I follow him on twitter is for "re-reporting" of things I might've otherwise missed.

 

I just posted that FWIW...guess i shld've included a disclaimer... or not since you two illuminated everyone anyway

 

I'm also skeptical of him actually emailing schefter, since typically when you mention someone on twitter, you refer to them by their twitter screenname, ie "Spoke to @adam_schefter via email about..." Of course, when you do that, that person is automatically alerted that their name has been mentioned. I doubt schefter or any of his associates are searching for tweets mentioning "adam schefter" or "schefter." What I'm getting at is Moran probably did not use schefter's screenname so as not to call attention to his lie, if he is indeed lying.

 

however unlikely it may be that we get gaither today or soon, i'm really pulling for it. I know that gaither not being at practice fuels the speculation, but so does the off-season in general where nfl writers and bloggers are going to manipulate any of the little info they can to keep their names in your mouth and stories on your screen.

[PromoTheRobot]

And now the weathervane changes direction!

Schefter now says Gaither held out of practice because of trade, not injury.

 

Didn't Adam just report that it was an injury and no trade was imminent? Talk about covering your a$$.

 

PTR

[Don]

Per Shefter today

 

Adam_Schefter

 

RT @rmsmylie: Some blogs reporting Gaither to the Bills for a 2nd is done pending a contract extension. Can you confirm? ... Not true.

[transient]

While I agree that the Gaither trade is more than likely a pipe dream, Patrick Moran is not that much better than the original website that claims a deal is done. Moran has been called out countless times for simply making up stories and sources. My best guess is that he never emailed Schefter in the first place but is simply using his latest tweet as the basis for his own speculation.

 

I just dont see why the Ravens would rush to get this done. Why not wait it out a few months until training camp and then wait for injuries to pile up? I seriously doubt we'll see Gaither in a Bills uniform any time soon.

 

I agree in theory that it makes sense to wait. However, the other side is, if the dance partner is there, the deal is there, and the possibility of going after NO's Brown instead is there, AND you're certain you want to trade Gaither, then why not do it before it becomes a headache.

[ax4782]

Per Shefter today

 

Adam_Schefter

 

RT @rmsmylie: Some blogs reporting Gaither to the Bills for a 2nd is done pending a contract extension. Can you confirm? ... Not true.

 

Link please, fwiw.

[Ball'n]

While I agree that the Gaither trade is more than likely a pipe dream, Patrick Moran is not that much better than the original website that claims a deal is done. Moran has been called out countless times for simply making up stories and sources. My best guess is that he never emailed Schefter in the first place but is simply using his latest tweet as the basis for his own speculation.

 

I just dont see why the Ravens would rush to get this done. Why not wait it out a few months until training camp and then wait for injuries to pile up? I seriously doubt we'll see Gaither in a Bills uniform any time soon.

Moran's 1 credible contact is Schefter, and it is the only time he gets things right imo. I drew this conclusion from following Billzone some, but he def. does talk to him at times.

[BillsGuyInMalta]

One more interesting piece of news, apparently Gaither wasn't made available to the media after the Ravens practice. Read into it as you will.

 

http://twitter.com/RavensInsider

[RalphW]

While I agree that the Gaither trade is more than likely a pipe dream, Patrick Moran is not that much better than the original website that claims a deal is done. Moran has been called out countless times for simply making up stories and sources. My best guess is that he never emailed Schefter in the first place but is simply using his latest tweet as the basis for his own speculation.

 

I just dont see why the Ravens would rush to get this done. Why not wait it out a few months until training camp and then wait for injuries to pile up? I seriously doubt we'll see Gaither in a Bills uniform any time soon.

Jesus crist man how many times do I have to read a post about why the ravens are gonna sit and wait because it's in their best interest. Has it ever occured to you that a potential trade partner would want their new franchise lt in camp asap to learn playbook, gel with new line mates, etc. By the way if the ravens wait to long maybe potential trade partners will find a lt elsewhere....like on their own roster ( Ed Wang). Just sayin....

[TheMadKat]

Has anyone checked the tower chief's log at Balt and Buf airports?

[box0life]

Let me say one thing:

 

I hope we get Gaither, but riddle me this:

 

1. Gaither will cost a lot of money to extend his contract and will probably cost a second round pick and more (Yabouty)

2. Gaither is another Peters in that he has motivational problems just like Peters.

3. Peters was a pro bowl player, Gaither is not.

4. Why didn't we sign Peters if Gaither is the same kind of players with similar issues, but not as good as Peters?

 

Sounds like we traded one headache (Peters) for another potential headache in Gaither.

 

Don't get me wrong I hope we make the trade because we having a gaping hole at LT, but I must say I am not convinced this guy won't be a head case like Peters with less ability.

 

I'm concerned that the Bills won't be able to negotiate a contract extension and this trade dies.

[Green Lightning]

Let me say one thing:

 

I hope we get Gaither, but riddle me this:

 

1. Gaither will cost a lot of money to extend his contract and will probably cost a second round pick and more (Yabouty)

2. Gaither is another Peters in that he has motivational problems just like Peters.

3. Peters was a pro bowl player, Gaither is not.

4. Why didn't we sign Peters if Gaither is the same kind of players with similar issues, but not as good as Peters?

 

Sounds like we traded one headache (Peters) for another potential headache in Gaither.

 

Don't get me wrong I hope we make the trade because we having a gaping hole at LT, but I must say I am not convinced this guy won't be a head case like Peters with less ability.

 

I'm concerned that the Bills won't be able to negotiate a contract extension and this trade dies.

 

 

Because Peters was fat, out of shape and played like it. Plus he didn't want to be here and would have been a pain in the *ss in the locker room.

[Nanker]

Let me say one thing:

 

I hope we get Gaither, but riddle me this:

 

Don't get me wrong I hope we make the trade because we having a gaping hole at LT, but I must say I am not convinced this guy won't be a head case like Peters with less ability.

 

I'm concerned that the Bills won't be able to negotiate a contract extension and this trade dies.

 

Well, in case you haven't noticed it, there's a different man in charge of making deals and pulling the trigger.

I don't want to revisit the Jason Peters Nightmare, but ask yourself this - do you think that tawdry affair would have gone down in the same way if Nix were in charge back then?

[Don]

Link please, fwiw.

 

 

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

[ax4782]

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

 

Thank You.

[DarthICE]

I am ready for this **** to get over with. Just make the !@#$ing trade or kill the rumors

[ax4782]

Let me say one thing:

 

I hope we get Gaither, but riddle me this:

 

1. Gaither will cost a lot of money to extend his contract and will probably cost a second round pick and more (Yabouty)

2. Gaither is another Peters in that he has motivational problems just like Peters.

3. Peters was a pro bowl player, Gaither is not.

4. Why didn't we sign Peters if Gaither is the same kind of players with similar issues, but not as good as Peters?

 

Sounds like we traded one headache (Peters) for another potential headache in Gaither.

 

Don't get me wrong I hope we make the trade because we having a gaping hole at LT, but I must say I am not convinced this guy won't be a head case like Peters with less ability.

 

I'm concerned that the Bills won't be able to negotiate a contract extension and this trade dies.

 

Gaither's motivational problems were partly a result of the Ravens drafting an LT in the first round the year after they got him and he had the starting job.

 

A starting LT who is of All-Pro Caliber is going to cost money. It is the second or third most important position on the football field. That's not news. Peters didn't get paid because he didn't deserve to get paid for the reasons that are not going to follow.

 

Peters was in the Pro Bowl, but he was not really a Pro Bowler. Looking at the guy's play he was a sieve. His play in Philly is heavily criticized and some think they overpaid to get him. Compare Gaither's and Peter's stats. They are available on any sports news site, and, of course, on NFL.com. They are far from the same player. And Gaither doesn't want to be in Baltimore because they are treating him like ****. I'd want out too. The fact is, he is a top-5 tackle and blows away anything we have on this team. If he gets a deal like what Peters wanted, fine. He's a better player and wants to be here. Peters was a whiny ***** who was overweight, slow, and not worth that kind of investment.

 

Say what you want, but Gaither would be a much better bang for the buck than Peters. Even if he gets 10 mil a season. Don't think it will be that much. Closer to eight or nine with a bunch of it guaranteed and front loaded. That seems more likely, but to say that Gaither isn't as good as Peters shows a lack of broad football knowledge and observation of the LT position in the NFL.

[RayFinkle]

I just dont see why the Ravens would rush to get this done. Why not wait it out a few months until training camp and then wait for injuries to pile up? I seriously doubt we'll see Gaither in a Bills uniform any time soon.

No team will give up a 2nd rounder for a one year stop gap if their starting LT goes down. You'll get top dollar for Gaither from a team like the bills who have no long term solution at the position.

[agardin]

Gaither's motivational problems were partly a result of the Ravens drafting an LT in the first round the year after they got him and he had the starting job.

 

A starting LT who is of All-Pro Caliber is going to cost money. It is the second or third most important position on the football field. That's not news. Peters didn't get paid because he didn't deserve to get paid for the reasons that are not going to follow.

 

Peters was in the Pro Bowl, but he was not really a Pro Bowler. Looking at the guy's play he was a sieve. His play in Philly is heavily criticized and some think they overpaid to get him. Compare Gaither's and Peter's stats. They are available on any sports news site, and, of course, on NFL.com. They are far from the same player. And Gaither doesn't want to be in Baltimore because they are treating him like ****. I'd want out too. The fact is, he is a top-5 tackle and blows away anything we have on this team. If he gets a deal like what Peters wanted, fine. He's a better player and wants to be here. Peters was a whiny ***** who was overweight, slow, and not worth that kind of investment.

 

Say what you want, but Gaither would be a much better bang for the buck than Peters. Even if he gets 10 mil a season. Don't think it will be that much. Closer to eight or nine with a bunch of it guaranteed and front loaded. That seems more likely, but to say that Gaither isn't as good as Peters shows a lack of broad football knowledge and observation of the LT position in the NFL.

 

Correct me if I am wrong but Peters was a UDFA, was given a contract. That rookie contract was re-negotiated and extended when Peters played RT, once he moved to LT he wanted LT money. He then sat out of training camps when the bills said come to camp and we will talk, he didn't, eventually turning up in week 2 ( i believe) of the season. In a way I understand the FO moves, they signed him off the heap, trained him to be an OL and then tore up his rookie deal and gave him a raise. re-negotiating a second a contract while technically you were stil on your first is a bit much. Then again, he pouted, got traded and got paid so I guess it worked out for him.

 

When Peters came back from his holdout, he stunk. I had no problem trading him to Philly