C.Biscuit97 Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5165967 I apologize if it was already posted but I didn't see it. But I find it strange that no one has mentioned this case. If it was an inner-city basketball player instead, do you think more people would care? Just curious.
thebug Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5165967 I apologize if it was already posted but I didn't see it. But I find it strange that no one has mentioned this case. If it was an inner-city basketball player instead, do you think more people would care? Just curious. Do you mean why isn't it being discussed?
Buftex Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 Do you mean why isn't it being discussed? Hmmm...interesting....
stuckincincy Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5165967 I apologize if it was already posted but I didn't see it. But I find it strange that no one has mentioned this case. If it was an inner-city basketball player instead, do you think more people would care? Just curious. No. Come to my town. People shoot each other over things like sunglasses, "dissing my woman", dissing me, the usual drug turf stuff etc. You could probably label 90%+ of the killers as "inner-city" basketball players, and be correct, as well as a substantial portion of the deceased. And sadly, many innocent, good souls have been murdered along the way - folks in the wrong place at the wrong time...
LeviF Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 I was watching CourtTV yesterday (TruTV now ) and they talked about this case for about half an hour in between segments about a murder in Georgia. Haven't seen it on any of the major "news" networks yet, though.
GG Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 If it was an inner-city basketball player instead, do you think more people would care? Just curious. Because this board doesn't have a KenyaBillzfan who's obsessed with white on white violence?
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 6, 2010 Author Posted May 6, 2010 No. Come to my town. People shoot each other over things like sunglasses, "dissing my woman", dissing me, the usual drug turf stuff etc. You could probably label 90%+ of the killers as "inner-city" basketball players, and be correct, as well as a substantial portion of the deceased. And sadly, many innocent, good souls have been murdered along the way - folks in the wrong place at the wrong time... There's a lot there and a lot of times, it is a whole different feeling about life and death in the inner-city. Not to make excuses but growing up in Compton is an entirely different lifestyle than growing up in Orange County. My main point is that a white kid with who seems to come from a good background, playing for a team that was ranked #1 in the country may have murdered his girlfriend, weeks before they graduated. Yet, it seems like he gets little notice. But if it was Pacman or Chris Henry, peopel would be talking about them as "thugs" and killing them. Why is there the double standard? Maybe because it hits closer to home for the majority of people? And Cincy, I'm not calling you out because I respect you as a poster, so I hope you realize that. Just trying to generate some conversation.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 6, 2010 Author Posted May 6, 2010 Because this board doesn't have a KenyaBillzfan who's obsessed with white on white violence?
stuckincincy Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 And Cincy, I'm not calling you out because I respect you as a poster, so I hope you realize that. Just trying to generate some conversation. No offense taken at all. Such conversations are good...the more the better. Our streets flow red, and it is so tragic. I struggle to try to understand it...
thebug Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 No offense taken at all. Such conversations are good...the more the better. Our streets flow red, and it is so tragic. I struggle to try to understand it... Man, I just can't fathom the **** that goes on in larger cities. I come from a small city in Ontario (close to 60,000 people) and there hasn't been a murder here since 1997 I believe. We are certainly not without crime, but not the crazy killing of each other.
shrader Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 Does anyone beyond ESPN usually cover this stuff anyway? The typical NFL stuff (which obviously has a much larger audience than lacrosse) doesn't seem to make it anywhere beyond ESPN either.
Hirly5 Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 Does anyone beyond ESPN usually cover this stuff anyway? The typical NFL stuff (which obviously has a much larger audience than lacrosse) doesn't seem to make it anywhere beyond ESPN either. I think the lack of coverage is that it is a lacrosse player. If it was the starting QB for a top 25 team in college football there would def be more coverage. I have heard more discussion on the culture of lacrosse players in general since this incident. There was a article on deadspin which painted lacrosse players in a very broad stroke. The authors argument was that your typical lacrosse player comes from a privelidged background and they attend all-boys private schools or upscale public schools that are lacrosse factories for the college level. The players have a "I am above the law" attitude. Are lacrosse players alittle more cocky than other athletes? Maybe but any athlete who is playing their sport at a high level is cocky. The star athlete always plays by different rules than the average athlete or person. Just the way things are.
CountDorkula Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 Does anyone beyond ESPN usually cover this stuff anyway? The typical NFL stuff (which obviously has a much larger audience than lacrosse) doesn't seem to make it anywhere beyond ESPN either. See Duke Lacrosse case, covered by every national media outlet there was...
Just Jack Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 Does anyone beyond ESPN usually cover this stuff anyway? The typical NFL stuff (which obviously has a much larger audience than lacrosse) doesn't seem to make it anywhere beyond ESPN either. ABC covered it this morning on Good Morning America, but they are also owned by Disney, who owns ESPN.
Hirly5 Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 See Duke Lacrosse case, covered by every national media outlet there was... The Duke lacrosse case had an element of race in it. Poor black stripper vs the elitist white Dukies. The DA helped to fuel that fire though. I never did hear any apologies from those same media outlets after they trashed the Duke players. I guess it was time to move onto the next stupid scandal.
KD in CA Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 I apologize if it was already posted but I didn't see it. But I find it strange that no one has mentioned this case. If it was an inner-city basketball player instead, do you think more people would care? Just curious. I've seen it discussed on two different national news programs in the last 24 hours. It's a horrible story, but maybe there's not much to say because it's all pretty obvious. Despite all the usual "this was so out of character for him" bullsh--, this guy is obviously a complete scumbag whose arrogance and lack of character resulted in him acting out violently instead of licking his frail ego when she ended the relationship. Let's hope he's on the receiving end of some prison justice. btw, it's stories like this that fuel the anti-sports crowd.
LongLiveRalph Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 There's a lot there and a lot of times, it is a whole different feeling about life and death in the inner-city. Not to make excuses but growing up in Compton is an entirely different lifestyle than growing up in Orange County. My main point is that a white kid with who seems to come from a good background, playing for a team that was ranked #1 in the country may have murdered his girlfriend, weeks before they graduated. Yet, it seems like he gets little notice. But if it was Pacman or Chris Henry, peopel would be talking about them as "thugs" and killing them. Why is there the double standard? Maybe because it hits closer to home for the majority of people? And Cincy, I'm not calling you out because I respect you as a poster, so I hope you realize that. Just trying to generate some conversation. I really don't agree with this topic at all. I think this case has been covered pretty thoroughly by all news outlets, sports and otherwise. I saw Brian Williams report on it the other night on the NBC Nightly News. Not the lead story, but about 7-8 minutes into the broadcast it was mentioned. It's on CNN and the other cable news networks, and all over the internet. What do you mean "Why isn't it getting noticed?" Just being truthful, I have seen it everywhere. I was at the gym on a treadmill yesterday and the story was being reported on three TV's at once, ESPN, Fox News, and CBS. I think that if it was a pro athlete, it might be a bigger story. If it was a more mainstream sport, it might be a bigger story. But I think you've got your double standards mixed up-- it's usually the other way around than what you're referring to. The media LOVES reporting the "pretty white girl" tragedy, whereas the black or Latino girl murdered doesn't get much play.
shrader Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 I've seen it discussed on two different national news programs in the last 24 hours. It's a horrible story, but maybe there's not much to say because it's all pretty obvious. Despite all the usual "this was so out of character for him" bullsh--, this guy is obviously a complete scumbag whose arrogance and lack of character resulted in him acting out violently instead of licking his frail ego when she ended the relationship. Let's hope he's on the receiving end of some prison justice. That about sums it up. The media wants controversial stories where people will pick sides. That's not going to happen here. btw, it's stories like this that fuel the anti-sports crowd. Another great example of how most people are dumb. This kind of thing happens every day. I don't see any people becoming anti-teacher or anti-accountant when they're the people involved.
CountDorkula Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 That about sums it up. The media wants controversial stories where people will pick sides. That's not going to happen here. Another great example of how most people are dumb. This kind of thing happens every day. I don't see any people becoming anti-teacher or anti-accountant when they're the people involved. This + 1,000 Just because he plays sports, that is what people will say brought out the brutality of all of this. Sports made his temper flare...
KD in CA Posted May 6, 2010 Posted May 6, 2010 Another great example of how most people are dumb. This kind of thing happens every day. I don't see any people becoming anti-teacher or anti-accountant when they're the people involved. I certainly agree, but the Count nailed it. The theory goes that people can't separate on-field behavior from off-field, hence: sports--->aggression--->violence. I recall hearing that same b.s. during the bogus Duke case.
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