thebug Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 you said before that to do fresh cut fries right you would par cook them right? so what happen when you run out? speed prep, without the par cook the result, inconsistent food quality, its not as much about laziness as it is consistency. Don't run out!
Chef Jim Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 Better fries, for sure. I expected you of all people to be a stickler on freshness? I'd rather have a prep guy helping me with something other that cutting, blanching and storing french fries all day.
thebug Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 I'd rather have a prep guy helping me with something other that cutting, blanching and storing french fries all day. Can't you pay some kid $6.00/hr and make it his job? EDIT: and I am just asking as some guy who has never worked in a restaurant kitchen, not trying to be a smart ass.
CarolinaBill Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 Don't run out! easier said than done, too many prepped fries=wasted product=high food cost= km loses $$/bonus, for most high volume places, it's not practical frozen fries, which are one of the few frozen items that are permissable IMO, are most cost effective, and the customers very rarely know the difference
thebug Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 easier said than done, too many prepped fries=wasted product=high food cost= km loses $$/bonus, for most high volume places, it's not practical frozen fries, which are one of the few frozen items that are permissable IMO, are most cost effective, and the customers very rarely know the difference I can see your point for sure, but I think there is a reason people flock to these chip stands (at least where I am from) because the use fresh cut fries.
erynthered Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 FRIES? FRIES? Cant you retards argue about something better than !@#$ing FRIES!!!!!!!! Carry on
The Dean Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 you said before that to do fresh cut fries right you would par cook them right? so what happen when you run out? speed prep, without the par cook the result, inconsistent food quality, its not as much about laziness as it is consistency. You have a couple of choices. Over prepare. That's my preferred method. The par-fried potatoes can be finished the next day, or used for something else. Start re-preparing when you start to get low. If you run out, you are an idiot. It's like a bar running out of vodka. And any mook can cut and par-cook fries. You don't need anyone particularly skilled for the job. As I said, they do it at some fast food joints.
CarolinaBill Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 Can't you pay some kid $6.00/hr and make it his job? EDIT: and I am just asking as some guy who has never worked in a restaurant kitchen, not trying to be a smart ass. thats not something you typically want to waste labor cost on, if a restaurant is going thru the trouble of fresh cutting fries that probably means they do tons of other things, more important things, fresh every day
thebug Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 FRIES? FRIES? Cant you retards argue about something better than !@#$ing FRIES!!!!!!!! Carry on Don't with my fries man! (or my wings)
The Dean Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 thats not something you typically want to waste labor cost on, if a restaurant is going thru the trouble of fresh cutting fries that probably means they do tons of other things, more important things, fresh every day So, you aren't disputing the quality or the work. NOW it is about cost. I thought this was a conversation about quality. Carry on.
stuckincincy Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 It's been a while since we had a potatoe war here. I'm hoping that my spelling of potatoe starts a side skirmish, with the attendant VP Quayle attacks.
LeviF Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 It's been a while since we had a potatoe war here. I'm hoping that my spelling of potatoe starts a side skirmish, with the attendant VP Quale attacks. What is this???
CarolinaBill Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 You have a couple of choices. Over prepare. That's my preferred method. The par-fried potatoes can be finished the next day, or used for something else. Start re-preparing when you start to get low. If you run out, you are an idiot. It's like a bar running out of vodka. And any mook can cut and par-cook fries. You don't need anyone particularly skilled for the job. As I said, they do it at some fast food joints. its a matter of volume, a fast food joint is smaller, lower volume in bursts a large full service restaurant is a different animal, its trickier, can be done, but tricky i myself worked at such a place where we had fresh fries and fresh sweet potatoes chips, it sucked, and I wasnt even a kitchen worker.
CarolinaBill Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 So, you aren't disputing the quality or the work. NOW it is about cost. I thought this was a conversation about quality. Carry on. its all part of the game, quality, cost, profit, as a manager you have to keep track of all that stuff, and make the best decisions possible.
The Dean Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 Then what the hell were you doing talking about restaurants that make their own meatballs, raviolis and gnocchis having better food? Well, they have better meatballs, ravioli and gnocchi. And those are the restaurants that typically buy better veal, pound it properly, make all their sauces fresh, toss the pasta, etc. So, yes, the restaurants that go out of their way to make these things themselves tend to have better food. Why is that so hard to understand?
Assquatch Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 You are not getting my point - at all. To simply say that that it is a colloquialism does not mean that it is a correct way to deal with the public. I recall several of them..."A !@#$ in the woodpile" comes to mind. It is rude and presumptuous. "De nada" has a certain affection to it. "No problem" comes across as dismissive. That it's common usage today is sad. I feel like LeviF91's avatar here but here goes: I understand your point Cincy, I just disagree with it. You are upset a colloquial phrase has come to mean what it means, and you choose to take it out on some poor girl who is just trying to tell you she's going to do what you asked of her.
Chef Jim Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 Well, they have better meatballs, ravioli and gnocchi. And those are the restaurants that typically buy better veal, pound it properly, make all their sauces fresh, toss the pasta, etc. So, yes, the restaurants that go out of their way to make these things themselves tend to have better food. Why is that so hard to understand? Because by putting that in the same post as fresh fries are better than frozen your isinuating that restaurants that use fresh fries instead of frozen serve better food.
LeviF Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 I feel like LeviF91's avatar here but here goes: It's interesting how everyone identifies with it at the same time.
Chef Jim Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 You have a couple of choices. Over prepare. That's my preferred method. The par-fried potatoes can be finished the next day, or used for something else. Start re-preparing when you start to get low. If you run out, you are an idiot. It's like a bar running out of vodka. And any mook can cut and par-cook fries. You don't need anyone particularly skilled for the job. As I said, they do it at some fast food joints. So you're going to have a frier set aside to par cook the fries during the rush? Trust me man, it ain't worth it.
erynthered Posted May 5, 2010 Posted May 5, 2010 French Fry arguments.. Tim Graham would be proud. I salute you gentlemen!!
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