Celtic_soulja Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 Youre a !@#$ing weird dude, so seperated from reality, its scary. Goodbye. I seperated myself only from YOUR reality...I do not feel as though this (look around at what we are as a society) is something to be cherished...not when we can do so much better... I am happy that I am a ****ing wierd dude...if I was a status quo moron like most of the people posting, I'd shoot myself in the face I think...
Celtic_soulja Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 Pathetic that a immigrant that has been here for 20 years, speaks broken english has more on the ball and a better understanding than half the tards in this country that were born here. She gets it. The left is too twisted by media and our education/indoctrination system to have a clear, unpolluted perspective on things. Exactly I've been too busy to join the frey, but have tried to read all the postings. Tom, you are wasting your time. Debating with that guy is the equivalent of Albert Pujols taking batting practice pitches from my mother. See that's the thing about the truth...it's the truth whether you believe in it or not
3rdnlng Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 Exactly See that's the thing about the truth...it's the truth whether you believe in it or not I'll give you one chance for meaningfull dialogue. What are you trying to say? Be specific.
finknottle Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 I like to use...periods...think...it makes me...sound wise...like Shatner...don't go in...for fancy...WSJ punctuation...
DC Tom Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 I've been too busy to join the frey, but have tried to read all the postings. Tom, you are wasting your time. Debating with that guy is the equivalent of Albert Pujols taking batting practice pitches from my mother. I'm actually kind-of hoping he'll start paying attention, since his concept isn't without merit. But at this point he's going to completely !@#$ up the implementation of it. He can't even coherently explain how to value the houses he's buying. Celtic...stay away from foreclosures. Stick to tax sales. Your half-ass ill-defined cost structure will work better.
IDBillzFan Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 HMMMM...seems like weve had "gestapo like" laws on the books for some time... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/opinion/...rss&emc=rss These are the the moments which will follow Obama like a bad stink. It is unfair to demand that aliens carry their documents with them. It is true that the Arizona law makes it a misdemeanor for an alien to fail to carry certain documents. “Now, suddenly, if you don’t have your papers ... you’re going to be harassed,” the president said. “That’s not the right way to go.” But since 1940, it has been a federal crime for aliens to fail to keep such registration documents with them. The Arizona law simply adds a state penalty to what was already a federal crime. Moreover, as anyone who has traveled abroad knows, other nations have similar documentation requirements. How many times has this idiot opened his yap to criticize something without first understanding what it was he was criticizing? Could you possibly show your stupidity any further than being critical of a law that is actually a federal law already? Whether it's cops acting stupidly or children out for ice cream getting harrassed, he has simply convinced himself that he knows precisely what is happening simply because one of his chicks like Rahm or Axelrod whispered something in his ear. He absolutely lacks any common sense whatsoever. Mark my words; it's only a matter of time before there is another unscripted moment when he says something so profoundly stupid that the media simply will not be able to hide the embarrassment any longer. Mark it.
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 The law is already working. I saw that they interviewed some illegals who said they cant find work now in AZ and are moving to Utah.
Chef Jim Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 The law is already working. I saw that they interviewed some illegals who said they cant find work now in AZ and are moving to Utah. It's working? So the illegals pack up and go to another state. How the !@#$ can that be considered a success?
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 It's working? So the illegals pack up and go to another state. How the !@#$ can that be considered a success? If you're AZ it's a success.
DC Tom Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 If you're AZ it's a success. Who knew illegal immigrants ceased to be illegal immigrants in Utah? I never thought I'd see anyone stupider than conner. You are stupider than conner. Finding the person who's stupider than you scares the living hell out of me.
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 Who knew illegal immigrants ceased to be illegal immigrants in Utah? Then Utah will enact a measure like Arizona's. The best part of this legislation is that its forcing the hand of ALL states.
Chef Jim Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 Then Utah will enact a measure like Arizona's. The best part of this legislation is that its forcing the hand of ALL states. AZ is not trying to force the hand of all states, their trying to force the hand of the Feds. Immigration is under their juristiction.
VABills Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 It's working? So the illegals pack up and go to another state. How the !@#$ can that be considered a success? It works. Trust me. They'll eventually migrate to those wonderful liberal states and bring them further into the tax dumper.
Celtic_soulja Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 I'll give you one chance for meaningfull dialogue. What are you trying to say? Be specific. I will be specific when DC Tom and Magox and everyone else is specific about what they are investing in...I can't be too specific... But I will try to be more specific... I am forming a CDC that will be a one stop shopping for urban development...first I want to secure funding from the local government...I have the political clout to do so, regardless of what the fellas here are saying...maybe not to the tune I want, but funding none the less...I want to buy homes at low prices...via foreclosed homes that need work for between 15-50k http://www.foreclosuretogo.com/search/MI_125.html I am not using this site and I am not buying in Michigan...this just gives you an idea that there ARE homes that NEED work being sold for THOSE prices... I have assembled a group of around 15 volunteers and will hire some workers that are out of work to help rebuild or upgrade the properties... I do not plan to insure the properties but I am "overpaying" for hazmat remediation insurance for my working crew...why? because I am also cleaning up a neighborhood that was once a mill town...it also has a river that was dumped into for ages...remediation teams make about 2-5M per year at a similar size so the 120k for 500k of insurance of this kind is an investment... https://www.zurichnac.com/Environmental/?WT...004M2S017CR0952 not the company I am using, but sign up and get quotes if you would like.... http://www.midwestsoil.com/?gclid=CK6zpaCsr6ECFQEMDQod9B9O-Q not my team of course...but I am sure thier bids are around what any remediation crew charges...ask for pricing for verification... Also supplimenting the police force of this blighted city with armed security guards that are much cheaper than hiring more police...so the CDC will hire guards and have patrols around the city...11 dollars per hour is about average for a guard of this type and we will rent them out to the city among other private and public entities that need them...profit after overhead should be around .5m The "loan" for these first prongs of the CDC will be good faith payments from the local government to the tune of 1.7 m two consecutive years...50,000 from the state...and whatever I can get from the federal government...along with some private money from fund raising and myself Best case scenario I am purchasing 85 homes...and having my remediation team ready to go after rebuilding the homes...the security company will be up in the air until we figure out exactly how much we are taking in from the other two prongs... The income produced by the CDC should be 1.3 m roughly the first two years...then as high as 5-6m there after...taxes and paybacks will be around 30% of the "profit" after overhead...our overhead should not be more than 40%...and the rest goes to expansion... I am attacked on the board for things like...what if a guy falls off a roof...what if the property burns down...valid I guess...but honestly is it relevant?...I mean my guys will be insured WELL over what they need...and if the property burns down I'm out like 40k...the insurance...just like if you were buying from a bank, will fall on the shoulders of the buyer...it's not some ridiculous thing...if they insure the property, then they will pay off what they owed...if they are uninsured they will not be on the hook and I will take the loss with them... Another reason this is attacked because I'm marking up the housing to the tax assessed value of the house...well above the normal market value...which I reply that the market is whatever I can sell them for...I know I can sell them for that, and therefore I AM THE MARKET...so eloquently put by a few posters that responded... They also retort with these phantom loans that are not only unavailable for the property I am buying up, but also unavailable to the clients I am putting into these homes...becuase of poor credit ratings...they say they will all default...and I will be in the hole somehow if that happened...but since the payback is based on the performance...like buying stock and NOT like taking out a business loan...if it crashes it crashes...and we still have the property and can resell it...so I fail to see how I will in the hole...so again...phantom loans which are not viable solutions to compare my plan with, because they don't and never will exist for the property or clients I am targeting... Another poster says that when my clients find out that I sold them a property at above what I bought it for, they will revolt and chase me out of town with pitchforks...which, of course is unlikely because they are still getting a home for 500 bucks a month bottom line cheaper than renting in the city I'm targeting...and thier credit score will stop them from owning property...so I can only imagine they will feel both proud and happy to have something of value without being just another subprime borrower getting foreclosed on...all the remnants of what I am buying up Then there was a huge argument about market value...I say that I am putting cash bids on foreclosed homes for say 30k on a bunch of homes...this depresses the value, and I continue to buy until the money runs out...then I turn around and sell them for 120k say, and those sales...like my 30k purchases...set the new comps and therefore raise property value up again...they say Im wrong that it won't work like that...because of gas prices and inflation... Then they say I misspelled mispell and therefore I have not the attention to detail it will take to pull something like this off and my investors are imbeciles...then turn around and misspell Lao Tzu and say they are experts on the Tao Te Ching...attacking my concept by saying that I have no skill in finance or detail and that is why I will fail...as if I am going to run the construction crews myself without having construction crew leaders...or I'm going to be the armed guard patrolling the city...or the environmental driller hammering soil samples...or the bean counter counting beans...which I'm not...just in case you think I am...details, I say are overrated and meaningless without vision and concepts...and that obviously makes me mentally challenged... In the end...the more a bean counting wannabe elitist DOESN'T like what I have to say, the more confidence I have in WHAT I say because my project is not taking place on Wall Street...and I am not looking to enrich the pencil pushers and white knuckle traders...I am looking to enrich a city...and its citizens...and our citizens are the ones Wall Street gave up on years ago...so I feel my project fits the bill completely...even more so when certain people think it will utterly fail...what scares me is DC Tom thinks it's a good idea...but I think he found enough problems with it to still merit a smile from myself...
Chef Jim Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 How long are you planning on it taking to renovate 85 homes? Volunteers are the most reliable work force.
Celtic_soulja Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 It works. Trust me. They'll eventually migrate to those wonderful liberal states and bring them further into the tax dumper. I'll take them all...let them allllll come to my state...I unlike y'all know what a good worker can accomplish with the right opportunity...
Chef Jim Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 I'll take them all...let them allllll come to my state...I unlike y'all know what a good worker can accomplish with the right opportunity... And we all know good workers can only be found in the illegal alien community.
Celtic_soulja Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 How long are you planning on it taking to renovate 85 homes? Volunteers are the most reliable work force. It's not a completely volunteer workforce...again...I will hire people and experienced crew leaders for renovations...it helps I have family that run a roofing company and do cosmetic work on houses... It shouldn't take more than three months per cycle...of course that's VERY general because it will differ from house to house...and crew to crew...and if it friggen RAINS OR NOT lol...that's not a question ANYONE could answer accurately...I mean c'mon
Celtic_soulja Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 And we all know good workers can only be found in the illegal alien community. Oh, is THAT what I said...I was impatiently waiting for you to put words in my mouth...
Chef Jim Posted April 30, 2010 Posted April 30, 2010 It's not a completely volunteer workforce...again...I will hire people and experienced crew leaders for renovations...it helps I have family that run a roofing company and do cosmetic work on houses... It shouldn't take more than three months per cycle...of course that's VERY general because it will differ from house to house...and crew to crew...and if it friggen RAINS OR NOT lol...that's not a question ANYONE could answer accurately...I mean c'mon Someone with a plan could answer it. So three months per cycle what do you mean a cycle?
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