Illegal immigrants living in AZ

[Magox]

It's ignorant to compare working class to gangsters as if they are the same thing KD...very ignorant

 

I guess Pac was right

Just drop the Das Kapital book and come back to the western world.

[Jim in Anchorage]

Yeah and all Arab immigrants are Al Qaeda to aren't they? MS-13 are the same damn thing terrorists...not just some regular undocumented worker...there is a difference...

 

If the law said, we will deport those that break the law...whole different story...and BELIEVE me MS-13 are not all that COVERT...

 

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I thought being a illegal immigrant was breaking the law? Or do I not understand the illegal part of illegal immigrant?

[KD in CA]

It's ignorant to compare working class to gangsters as if they are the same thing KD...very ignorant

 

I guess Pac was right

 

It's also very ignorant to be so defensive and wound up that you miss an obvious joke.

 

 

And who's "Pac"?

[VABills]

Celtic, do you understand the difference between a symbiotic and a parasitic relationship? When the US sends work overseas/south of the border, even for lower rates it is a symbiotic relationship as they would not have work, a means to live otherwise. they get jobs, money, means to live and the US and other coutries have a means to get things done cheaper.

 

Parasites at first do little harm and could potentially have some benefits, early on. but as the parasites take over more and more and grow, they strangle and damage the host. While at one time the illegals coming across the border may have had some mutal and symbotic relationshipp, over the last 20 years or more it has become extremely parasitic with the increase in crime, overwhelming state and local economies where they migrate to, with little or no payback into those areas.

[DC Tom]

Celtic, do you understand the difference between a symbiotic and a parasitic relationship?

 

Have you seen his business concept?

 

 

I'm guessing he doesn't.

[Bishop Hedd]

Most (all?) baseball players are also legal immigrants.

 

Youre an immature !@#$.

How can you be so positive? Using the law's criteria I'm sure some baseball players, somewhere down the line, are going to have some problems. Entertainers, politicians, average lifelong American citizens...you name it. I have no doubt in my mind that Major League baseball will and should pull the game if things don't change in AZ. Didn't that real progressive corporation the NFL pull their big game from Arizona over something a helluva lot smaller than this unconstitutional law?

[Bishop Hedd]

Why shouldn't they? Most of the baseball allstars are hispanic...so they will be harassed while they are there...walking around acting alllll illegal and what not becasue of thier caramel skin

[Chef Jim]

Why shouldn't they? Most of the baseball allstars are hispanic...so they will be harassed while they are there...walking around acting alllll illegal and what not becasue of thier caramel skin

 

Wow, look at all those Hispanics (and I only highlighted the ones I thought had hispanic names).

 

RF Ichiro Suzuki, SEA L/R

 

SS Derek Jeter, NYY R/R

 

C Joe Mauer, MIN L/R

 

1B Mark Teixeira, NYY S/R

 

LF Jason Bay, BOS R/R

 

CF Josh Hamilton, TEX L/L

 

3B Michael Young, TEX R/R

 

2B Aaron Hill, TOR R/R

 

P Roy Halladay, TOR R/R

 

Pitchers

Pos Player B/T

 

P Andrew Bailey, OAK R/R

 

P Josh Beckett, BOS R/R

 

P Mark Buehrle, CWS L/L

 

P Brian Fuentes, LAA L/L

 

P Zack Greinke, KC R/R

 

P Felix Hernandez, SEA R/R

 

P Edwin Jackson, DET R/R

 

P Joe Nathan, MIN R/R

 

P Jonathan Papelbon, BOS R/R

 

P Mariano Rivera, NYY R/R

 

P Justin Verlander, DET R/R

 

P Tim Wakefield, BOS R/R

 

Reserves

Pos Player B/T

 

C Victor Martinez, CLE S/R

 

1B Justin Morneau, MIN L/R

 

1B Carlos Pena, TB+ L/L

 

1B Kevin Youkilis, BOS R/R

 

2B Dustin Pedroia, BOS³ R/R

 

SS Jason Bartlett, TB R/R

 

3B Chone Figgins, ANA+ S/R

 

3B Brandon Inge, DET¹ R/R

 

3B Evan Longoria, TB² R/R

 

OF Carl Crawford, TB L/L

 

OF Nelson Cruz, TEX+ R/R

 

OF Curtis Granderson, DET L/R

 

OF Torii Hunter, LAA² R/R

 

OF Adam Jones, BAL R/R

 

OF Ben Zobrist, TB

[Bishop Hedd]

Wow, look at all those Hispanics (and I only highlighted the ones I thought had hispanic names).

 

RF Ichiro Suzuki, SEA L/R

 

SS Derek Jeter, NYY R/R

 

C Joe Mauer, MIN L/R

 

1B Mark Teixeira, NYY S/R

 

LF Jason Bay, BOS R/R

 

CF Josh Hamilton, TEX L/L

 

3B Michael Young, TEX R/R

 

2B Aaron Hill, TOR R/R

 

P Roy Halladay, TOR R/R

 

Pitchers

Pos Player B/T

 

P Andrew Bailey, OAK R/R

 

P Josh Beckett, BOS R/R

 

P Mark Buehrle, CWS L/L

 

P Brian Fuentes, LAA L/L

 

P Zack Greinke, KC R/R

 

P Felix Hernandez, SEA R/R

 

P Edwin Jackson, DET R/R

 

P Joe Nathan, MIN R/R

 

P Jonathan Papelbon, BOS R/R

 

P Mariano Rivera, NYY R/R

 

P Justin Verlander, DET R/R

 

P Tim Wakefield, BOS R/R

 

Reserves

Pos Player B/T

 

C Victor Martinez, CLE S/R

 

1B Justin Morneau, MIN L/R

 

1B Carlos Pena, TB+ L/L

 

1B Kevin Youkilis, BOS R/R

 

2B Dustin Pedroia, BOS³ R/R

 

SS Jason Bartlett, TB R/R

 

3B Chone Figgins, ANA+ S/R

 

3B Brandon Inge, DET¹ R/R

 

3B Evan Longoria, TB² R/R

 

OF Carl Crawford, TB L/L

 

OF Nelson Cruz, TEX+ R/R

 

OF Curtis Granderson, DET L/R

 

OF Torii Hunter, LAA² R/R

 

OF Adam Jones, BAL R/R

 

OF Ben Zobrist, TB

Where the hell is Rodriguez...aside from Pujols and...christ a ton you missed. Did you just pull this list outta yer ass?!? Nevermind...I know the answer to that.

[Celtic_soulja]

Tis not that I do not know the difference between parasitic and symbiotic...I very much know the difference my friends...

 

I am sorry that I cannot see a mexican or honduran or el salvadorian or any human as a parasite...that is how nazi's view human life, not me...I feel sorry for your ignorance...

 

Pac as in Tupac...Tupac as in "they don't give a **** about us" old hip hop power to the people type of song...okay KD...sometimes I miss the sarcasm and/or humor in posts...I am sorry for getting all huffy and puffy...

 

You can only say that either all humans or no humans are parasitic...I believe none are parasitic and it is our great systematic design is the problem not the people...but to change the system you must change the people...

 

Also, my business plan has nothing to do with this...however, it is less a business plan than teaching the working class to ignore those that mistreat them to do it themselves....

 

 

"She trusts people that are trustworthy...She also trusts people who aren't trustworthy...This is true trust" Lao Tzu

 

"When rich speculators prosper, while the farmers lose thier land; When government officials spend money on weapons instead of cures; When the upper class is extravagant and irresponsible, while the poor have nowhere to turn--all this is robbery and chaos." Lao Tzu

 

"I have just three things to teach: simplicity, patience, compassion. These three are your greatest treasures. Simple in actions and in thoughts, you return to the source of being. Patient with both friends and enemies, you accord with the way things are. Compassionate toward yourself, you reconcile all being in the world." Lao Tzu

 

I am not a communist or socialist...I am compassionate...so I see how I can be confused...I am far too against big government to be anything but conservative

[VABills]

How can you be so positive? Using the law's criteria I'm sure some baseball players, somewhere down the line, are going to have some problems. Entertainers, politicians, average lifelong American citizens...you name it. I have no doubt in my mind that Major League baseball will and should pull the game if things don't change in AZ. Didn't that real progressive corporation the NFL pull their big game from Arizona over something a helluva lot smaller than this unconstitutional law?

This is a lot more constitutional (states rights) than the liberals demanding that everyone buy a product every year, unless you're union , poor, illegal, then they give it to you for free.

[Celtic_soulja]

Just drop the Das Kapital book and come back to the western world.

 

I am not a marxist...you're crazy...lol...I read some marx and it was a horrible read...he wasn't even a good writer in my opinion...never mind his ridiculous vision of a good society...the compassion wasn't even there...and what is good socialism without compassion?...completely worthless...IE communism

[RkFast]

Tis not that I do not know the difference between parasitic and symbiotic...I very much know the difference my friends...

 

I am sorry that I cannot see a mexican or honduran or el salvadorian or any human as a parasite...that is how nazi's view human life, not me...I feel sorry for your ignorance...

 

Pac as in Tupac...Tupac as in "they don't give a **** about us" old hip hop power to the people type of song...okay KD...sometimes I miss the sarcasm and/or humor in posts...I am sorry for getting all huffy and puffy...

 

You can only say that either all humans or no humans are parasitic...I believe none are parasitic and it is our great systematic design is the problem not the people...but to change the system you must change the people...

 

Also, my business plan has nothing to do with this...however, it is less a business plan than teaching the working class to ignore those that mistreat them to do it themselves....

 

 

"She trusts people that are trustworthy...She also trusts people who aren't trustworthy...This is true trust" Lao Tzu

 

"When rich speculators prosper, while the farmers lose thier land; When government officials spend money on weapons instead of cures; When the upper class is extravagant and irresponsible, while the poor have nowhere to turn--all this is robbery and chaos." Lao Tzu

 

"I have just three things to teach: simplicity, patience, compassion. These three are your greatest treasures. Simple in actions and in thoughts, you return to the source of being. Patient with both friends and enemies, you accord with the way things are. Compassionate toward yourself, you reconcile all being in the world." Lao Tzu

 

I am not a communist or socialist...I am compassionate...so I see how I can be confused...I am far too against big government to be anything but conservative

 

COmpassion is fine and good. But people are being murdered. Kidnappings, rapes, rampant crime. Then there is the whole quality of life violation thing going on. I cant go to a !@#$ing hardware store without being leered at by 25 "carmel colored" people and God forbid I go in with my wife and get to hear the cat-calls in Spanish right to my face. or how about the 50 people living in a dwelling made for 6 three houses down?

 

Yeah...comapssion is real good...until that thing liberals often forget....REALITY.....starts creeping in. Then those pesky "laws" have to be made.

 

And so funny...liberals want laws for EVERYTHING. I cant eat a cheeseburger now without fifty laws attached to it (post calories, no transfats, no salt). Yet when it comes to immigration they want a total free for all.

[IDBillzFan]

have no doubt in my mind that Major League baseball will and should pull the game if things don't change in AZ.

Why? What does this have to do with MLB?

[Celtic_soulja]

This is a lot more constitutional (states rights) than the liberals demanding that everyone buy a product every year, unless you're union , poor, illegal, then they give it to you for free.

 

I'm all for state rights...I think they should make whatever laws they want...I also want them to reap what they sow...I think all immigrants both documented and undocumented boycott the state...that's 30% of documented citizens in AZ and another 300,000 undocumented workers in AZ...I think they should all strike from employment...and stop paying taxes...and purchase NOTHING that was made in AZ....if 3% of the population can boycott and get civil liberty (million man march) imagine what over 30% of a population could accomplish...and not even federally, but pressuring just a state government...please...if they do not respect you as a human being...do not empower them with your business or labor...they would change thier mind very quickly...

 

Not to mention, I believe the MLB and other star leagues should put as much pressure as they can on the state as well...

[Celtic_soulja]

COmpassion is fine and good. But people are being murdered. Kidnappings, rapes, rampant crime. Then there is the whole quality of life violation thing going on. I cant go to a !@#$ing hardware store without being leered at by 25 "carmel colored" people and God forbid I go in with my wife and get to hear the cat-calls in Spanish right to my face. or how about the 50 people living in a dwelling made for 6 three houses down?

 

Yeah...comapssion is real good...until that thing liberals often forget....REALITY.....starts creeping in. Then those pesky "laws" have to be made.

 

And so funny...liberals want laws for EVERYTHING. I cant eat a cheeseburger now without fifty laws attached to it (post calories, no transfats, no salt). Yet when it comes to immigration they want a total free for all.

 

Is that a fact...so because people "cat call" your wife...it's time to kick them out...how bout you sach up and stop whining about you feeling like less of a man because you are jealous of those "caramel skin" guys?...it's not a problem that people think my wife is hot...I laugh...oh, because I know she ain't goin nowhere...certainly not with someone as tactless as whistling at her...please guy...grow a pair and lets not compare society's problems with your wife being whistled at

 

Ignorant...completely ignorant that you feel hispanic immigrants are more apt to kidnap rape or murder than anyone else...why don't you read a study once in a while and learn something about racial profiling and the ridiculous myths you seem to hold so dear to your heart....here you can start with this http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~c...8782&db=all

 

And I feel the same way about liberals...I think thier extra coca cola tax is friggen ridiculous as well...I'm a small government open borders wierdo...when I talk about immigration or the working class...everyone thinks I'm Karl Marx or Barrack Obama...when I talk about welfare, gun control, and government policy...everyone thinks I'm an anarchist or a right wing christian evangelicist...you'd figure a moderate like myself would have more friends on both sides...instead both sides hate me hehehehe...but I would be lying if I said I didn't find that amusing

[Joe Miner]

And I feel the same way about liberals...I think thier extra coca cola tax is friggen ridiculous as well...I'm a small government open borders wierdo...when I talk about immigration or the working class...everyone thinks I'm Karl Marx or Barrack Obama...when I talk about welfare, gun control, and government policy...everyone thinks I'm an anarchist or a right wing christian evangelicist...you'd figure a moderate like myself would have more friends on both sides...instead both sides hate me hehehehe...but I would be lying if I said I didn't find that amusing

 

I bet there's a common opinion from both sides about you when they hear you talk about any subject.

 

I wonder what it is...

[Celtic_soulja]

I bet there's a common opinion from both sides about you when they hear you talk about any subject.

 

I wonder what it is...

 

I just said what it was...good job cracking that code...

[Joe Miner]

I just said what it was...good job cracking that code...

 

No you didn't... good job proving their opinions correct...

[Celtic_soulja]

No you didn't... good job proving their opinions correct...

 

Did I not state that I get no love from either side because I'm too socialist for the right and too right for the left?...dude...ahhh nevermind