We're not going to be a good team in 2010

[John from Riverside]

Franchise QB's are found only on the top 3 picks in the draft? Tell that to Montana, Brady, or even 1st round picks like Kelly and Marino? Romo went undrafted....

 

Utter failure to address O-line? The tackles they liked were already gone so Spiller to them was the obvious choice. Take a very talented guy, or pass on him for a "need" pick that you're not really sold on? Nix spoke about this after the draft.

 

Again, Nix wasn't splashy enough for you it. Fine, we got it. I like what Nix said shortly after being hired as GM and that was that he drafted "football players", not workout warriors or the biggest "names". He watches tape. He and his scouts watch kids play.

 

Personally, I would have gone Clausen in Rd2, but Nix and Gailey clearly were not sold on him. We'll see how it plays out though as it appears that we did get help for the DL, which we SORELY needed., so my initial disappointed as subsided a bit.

 

Maybe they will be able to pull out a silk purse from the sows we believe we have at QB now.

 

To me you dont need any further evidence of what Nix is doing is when he kept passing on Bruce Campbell....he was there for our pick several times but we didn't take him

 

- Extremely athletic

- such a huge need for us

 

cant play worth a damn

 

 

To me you dont have to look for any further evidence of this is when Buffalo kept passing on Bruce Campbell

 

- Extremely athletic

- LT was such a huge need for us

- Cant play worth a damn

[CosmicBills]

where did you get that he isnt going to be an every down player in the NFL?

From Gailey's lips.

[CosmicBills]

i agree with adam, i believe they wanted an elite talent that can change the face of the game at 9, not just a role-player

Inserting Mcnabb this year would have been a rerun of what happened when we got Bledsoe. You just cant fast-forward through a rebuilding process.

 

JMHO

And yet ... this is exactly what Nix and Gailey tried to do. They tried to trade for McNabb.

 

The question is whether they know how to build a team. Based on the off season so far, the answer is cloudy at best, no at worst.

[CosmicBills]

Franchise QB's are found only on the top 3 picks in the draft? Tell that to Montana, Brady, or even 1st round picks like Kelly and Marino? Romo went undrafted....

 

Utter failure to address O-line? The tackles they liked were already gone so Spiller to them was the obvious choice. Take a very talented guy, or pass on him for a "need" pick that you're not really sold on? Nix spoke about this after the draft.

 

Again, Nix wasn't splashy enough for you it. Fine, we got it. I like what Nix said shortly after being hired as GM and that was that he drafted "football players", not workout warriors or the biggest "names". He watches tape. He and his scouts watch kids play.

 

Personally, I would have gone Clausen in Rd2, but Nix and Gailey clearly were not sold on him. We'll see how it plays out though as it appears that we did get help for the DL, which we SORELY needed., so my initial disappointed as subsided a bit.

 

Maybe they will be able to pull out a silk purse from the sows we believe we have at QB now.

Try reading my post, I never once said this draft wasn't "splashy enough" for me. The Spiller pick was ALL splash. This front office once again went with flash over substance. Just like they did with Willis, just like they did with JP and Travis Henry before them.

 

I'm sorry, but when your team is as bad as Buffalo is and you have so many holes to fill, you cannot waste a pick on the one position where you already have two 1000 yard rushers. Not one. Two.

 

If Nix cared about building the team, he would have traded back, picked up more picks, addressed the OLine in the later stages of round 1, kept the rest of the draft the same (with 1 or 2 extra players from the trade back) and the team would be in far better shape.

 

But instead, he went flashy, just like Donahoe did, just like Levy did. The Spiller pick was a bad pick no matter how "fast" he is.

[thewildrabbit]

Try reading my post. The Spiller pick was ALL splash.

 

I'm sorry, but when your team is as bad as Buffalo is and you have so many holes to fill, you cannot waste a pick on the one position where you already have two 1000 yard rushers. Not one. Two.

 

If Nix cared about building the team, he would have traded back, picked up more picks, addressed the OLine in the later stages of round 1, kept the rest of the draft the same (with 1 or 2 extra players from the trade back) and the team would be in far better shape.

 

But instead, he went flashy, just like Donahoe did, just like Levy did. The Spiller pick was a bad pick no matter how "fast" he is.

Like Chan Gailey stated, what team doesn't need a guy like Spiller...

 

Three teams come to mind that have a player as talented as Spiller, Cowboys with Felix Jones, Saints with Reggie Bush, Titans with Chris Johnson.

 

The Bills drafted the most explosive player in the draft, no question, a play maker who can help the team move the flags and score. He can be used as a WR on the outside, in the slot, and RB. Yea I know they already have 2 good RB's in Jackson and Lynch, all 3 are different in their own way. Lynch is the power back, Jackson is elusive and Spiller has the speed.

 

Obviously this coaching staff must feel they have enough young talent on the O line and they just need to keep them healthy with the proper conditioning, and give them better training while letting them get more experience.

 

Think I'll wait and see how this new coaching staff sets up an offense and then runs it before I condemn what they have done so far.

[Celtic_soulja]

First I disagree completely with the Bills being a poor team next season...we already had an effective running game last season...I know people will trash it all day long, but the fact of the matter is that we failed to run the ball enough....we averaged 4.4 ypc last season and that is GOOD...we just didn't run the ball thanks to an inexperienced OC and a VERY experienced TO...Gailey runs the ball often and with the likes of Lynch, Jackson, and Spiller???? c'mon...we could EASILY be a top five rushing offense...our ST looks like we'll have the best return game in the NFL...our Kicking game is strong...and day three in the draft we added kids that can cover those deep punts...very solid...

 

Defense...3-4's are generally more effective schemes than 4-3's against the run...we had a very good pass defense last season...our secondary is another very good strength on this team...we were second only to NO if I'm not mistaken in interceptions...our front seven got a WHOLE lot bigger after this draft...we have a beefy 3-4 downlinemen set up....Edwards, Troup, Stroud....our LB's got depth from this draft and while I am skeptical about our edge pass rushers...I believe they will be at least mediocre...our interior with Poz/Davis/Mitchell is very strong...we will DEFINITELY be stronger against the run this season...and just because of the blitz packages we will have a better pass rush....

 

So how is this looking bad so far...great running game, above average defense, great special teams......OHHHHHHHHHHH...you're one of those QB guys...

 

IMHO Edwards is good enough to run this offense...and Levi Brown...down the road will impress Buffalo...I like Levi Brown ALOT...

[Hynze]

Try reading my post, I never once said this draft wasn't "splashy enough" for me. The Spiller pick was ALL splash. This front office once again went with flash over substance. Just like they did with Willis, just like they did with JP and Travis Henry before them.

 

I'm sorry, but when your team is as bad as Buffalo is and you have so many holes to fill, you cannot waste a pick on the one position where you already have two 1000 yard rushers. Not one. Two.

 

If Nix cared about building the team, he would have traded back, picked up more picks, addressed the OLine in the later stages of round 1, kept the rest of the draft the same (with 1 or 2 extra players from the trade back) and the team would be in far better shape.

 

But instead, he went flashy, just like Donahoe did, just like Levy did. The Spiller pick was a bad pick no matter how "fast" he is.

They needed to sell hope just like last year with TO. The Bills are marketing geniuses

[Ronin]

If this team is built up in 2 years, Spiller will still be here. So, drafting for your primary need in 2010 made very little sense when 2010 is most likely a throw away year . You can't overcome a decade of mediocrity in one off-season. Hopefully RW is patient enough with Nix, and hopefully Gailey turns out to be the right coach for this team.

 

What do you mean primary need?

 

Fred Jackson is a better RB but not as good a returner. Otherwise Spiller fills the same exact "need" as Jackson, who was a diamond in the rough.

[iinii]

But let's not forget that even with the Levy/DJ teams, each of the last three years, they were 5-10 bad coaching plays and 5-10 injuries away from winning 3-4 more games per season... even with the confusion offense & Tampon-2. Anything can happen. I think this team can be competitive.

 

Agreed, we won't set the woods on fire but as long as we are competitive and moving in the right direction I can be content, for now.

[bananathumb]

Who knows if they'll be any good in 2010? Nobody.

 

They might not win a game or they might win 10.

 

Nobody knows what a brand-new bunch of coaches are going to do with all the new players (let alone some of the talented old ones), how the 3-4 will stop the run better, how Edwards will perform this year, how Spiller's speed will translate to TDs and wins.

 

All i know is it just feels different and that is something to look forward to. No Levy, no Jauron, no Turk, no Doughboy, no Perry.

 

I am not usually a kool-aid drinkers, but hey, if you can't be excited in April, then when? I don't understand those who have already given up.

[iinii]

What do you mean primary need?

 

Fred Jackson is a better RB but not as good a returner. Otherwise Spiller fills the same exact "need" as Jackson, who was a diamond in the rough.

That's like saying a N.Y. Strip and Lobster fill the same need. They do, but...... I love everything about Jackson but think Spiller will be a great change of pace so put me down for the surf and turf.

[Bufcomments]

To the OP...good post and I think alot of people agree with you on OBD.

 

The Bills have yet to bottom out. Meaning a 3-13 or a 4 -12 year. Nobody wants to see that kind of year but it could happen this year. They are retooling the roster and I think we may have a whole new D-line this year. I think the following players are in danger of not being on the roster opening day...

Schobel...retired

Ellison.....too small

Stroud...past his prime

McCargo...sucks

Kelsey.... a shame but he is NOT a LB

Edwards...sucks

Parrish....needs a new team

 

If these guys are gone we finally in true rebuilding mode. It's long overdue and I for one think Buddy can make them a bigger and stronger team. And it is gonna take time. Buddy said so himself. My starting D looks like this...

LDE...Edwards

RDE..Carrington

NT Williams or Troup

LOLB Maybin

LILB Poz

RILB Davis

ROLB Mitchel

SS Wilson

FS Bryd

LCB McGee

RCB McKelvin

 

This should make us better against the run. We have a great secondary but they have to learn how to stop teams from running the ball down our throats. That the key to the season right? Im sure Buddy saw us being pushed around on D last year. The draft saw us get bigger except for Spiller. I will give Buddy the benefit of doubt for not just this year but the next draft as well.

[gobillsinytown]

Wow, i couldnt have said it better myself....except i do live in western NY.

I love the "odd curiosity" term....This team was a great passion of mine for many years, now i feel like i only watch and follow them due to some obligation because i live here. They have ripped out of me all the love i had for the team. Sad

 

I love drama queen posts like this. It's entertainment. Follow the team because you enjoy it. If you don't enjoy following the team, there's no reason to watch them. I've been following this team through the glory years and the bad years, spent a lot of money on it, and all of it has been fun. Granted, nobody likes to see their favorite team lose, but I sure don't feel like something has been "ripped out of me" when it happens.

[TheBillsOrDie]

We haven't been a good team for 15 years...what else is new? The Buffalo Bills are a joke. I now follow this team as an odd curiosity, but I'm not the fan I once was (for most of my life). Thasnk God I don't live in Buffalo.

 

Oh well...

Get OUT and NEVER COME BACK....

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

What do you mean primary need?

 

Fred Jackson is a better RB but not as good a returner. Otherwise Spiller fills the same exact "need" as Jackson, who was a diamond in the rough.

No disrespect..... and to preface, I wanted Oher last year and Bulaga this year, but Spiller is a touchdown maker and Jackson is the first down maker. Pujols vs. Bobby Abreu

[papazoid]

i hate to place to much emphasis on one game....but our home opener against the Dolphins pretty much will define the season......if we lose, the season is all but over, if we can't beat them at home, we are not winning a single division game. i doubt we win wk#2 at Packers, wk#3 at Pats, wk#4 Jets. our next best chance to win is wk#5 Jax. other possible wins are KC, Det & Cle. we might only be favored to win in 4 of our games.

 

i love what Nix is doing, but i will say two things.....

 

#1- the hole Nix has to dig us out of is enormous.

#2- every other AFC East foe improved MORE than we did (draft, trades and free agent signings).

[Sisyphean Bills]

ANd the sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll probably be willing to give Buddy Nix the benefit of the doubt on this draft.

 

Jauron and Levy left this team void of talent. Our 2006 first round draft pick has been rumored to be on the trade block, our other one can't get on the field. Our 2007 first round draft pick is now 3rd string, and rumored to be on the trade block.

 

McKelvin looks promising when healthy, and Maybin too early to tell.

 

But the point remains, Levy and Jauron tried to base this team around smaller speedy guys, and now Nix and Gailey are forced to retool this entire roster with adequate sized players.

 

I think Nix and Gailey understand this team is probably not going to be in the mix this year, and they need to fix whats wrong under the hood before they worry about the paint job. They had a top 10 pick, and instead of doing what Levy did EVERYTIME, picking a player who fit the number 1 need, Nix took the absolute best player available. How can you fault him for that?

 

If this team is built up in 2 years, Spiller will still be here. So, drafting for your primary need in 2010 made very little sense when 2010 is most likely a throw away year . You can't overcome a decade of mediocrity in one off-season. Hopefully RW is patient enough with Nix, and hopefully Gailey turns out to be the right coach for this team.

i hate to place to much emphasis on one game....but our home opener against the Dolphins pretty much will define the season......if we lose, the season is all but over, if we can't beat them at home, we are not winning a single division game. i doubt we win wk#2 at Packers, wk#3 at Pats, wk#4 Jets. our next best chance to win is wk#5 Jax. other possible wins are KC, Det & Cle. we might only be favored to win in 4 of our games.

 

i love what Nix is doing, but i will say two things.....

 

#1- the hole Nix has to dig us out of is enormous.

#2- every other AFC East foe improved MORE than we did (draft, trades and free agent signings).

Hilarious mixed metaphor. Hope he isn't really still digging. We need leadership that's looking to climb out of the pit we're in.

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

ANd the sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll probably be willing to give Buddy Nix the benefit of the doubt on this draft.

 

Jauron and Levy left this team void of talent. Our 2006 first round draft pick has been rumored to be on the trade block, our other one can't get on the field. Our 2007 first round draft pick is now 3rd string, and rumored to be on the trade block.

 

McKelvin looks promising when healthy, and Maybin too early to tell.

 

But the point remains, Levy and Jauron tried to base this team around smaller speedy guys, and now Nix and Gailey are forced to retool this entire roster with adequate sized players.

 

I think Nix and Gailey understand this team is probably not going to be in the mix this year, and they need to fix whats wrong under the hood before they worry about the paint job. They had a top 10 pick, and instead of doing what Levy did EVERYTIME, picking a player who fit the number 1 need, Nix took the absolute best player available. How can you fault him for that?

 

If this team is built up in 2 years, Spiller will still be here. So, drafting for your primary need in 2010 made very little sense when 2010 is most likely a throw away year . You can't overcome a decade of mediocrity in one off-season. Hopefully RW is patient enough with Nix, and hopefully Gailey turns out to be the right coach for this team.

Yep. Fixing 20 leaks with 9 stop leaks is impossible. Especially when a few of the 9 stop leaks aren't guaranteed to hold. But it's a start.

And it looks like a pretty good one

[ntjacks79]

ANd the sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll probably be willing to give Buddy Nix the benefit of the doubt on this draft.

 

Jauron and Levy left this team void of talent. Our 2006 first round draft pick has been rumored to be on the trade block, our other one can't get on the field. Our 2007 first round draft pick is now 3rd string, and rumored to be on the trade block.

 

McKelvin looks promising when healthy, and Maybin too early to tell.

 

But the point remains, Levy and Jauron tried to base this team around smaller speedy guys, and now Nix and Gailey are forced to retool this entire roster with adequate sized players.

 

I think Nix and Gailey understand this team is probably not going to be in the mix this year, and they need to fix whats wrong under the hood before they worry about the paint job. They had a top 10 pick, and instead of doing what Levy did EVERYTIME, picking a player who fit the number 1 need, Nix took the absolute best player available. How can you fault him for that?

 

If this team is built up in 2 years, Spiller will still be here. So, drafting for your primary need in 2010 made very little sense when 2010 is most likely a throw away year . You can't overcome a decade of mediocrity in one off-season. Hopefully RW is patient enough with Nix, and hopefully Gailey turns out to be the right coach for this team.

I think all your points are very valid. On the other hand, the 2009 team somehow finished 6-10 and the 2010 schedule looks a lot easier to me than 2009... so it's possible that the Bills could struggle with what you suggest above and still be able to improve record-wise.

[toddgurley]

Most likely we will be drafting a qb next year, with our top 5 draft pick that we will have. But maybe the year after that the Bills can end the playoff drought