John Cocktosten Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 I would immagine the same as your throat with the **** you constantly spew. This coming from a guy who starts a thousand threads a day about nothing. Dude, you're the one making it seem like you're a UCF season ticket holder. So who is spewing sh*t now?
JPS Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Nolan Nawrocki has him rated the 92 best prospect. I would have taken the following DT before Troup Nolan who? What team does he work for?
buffalobill43 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 As an actual UCF season ticket holder, I have to say Troup is a solid pick, yeah, maybe a little high for what the analysts were saying but he fills a major need. UCF was much like the Bills last year, horrible offense especially QB play but the D kept them in most games and Troup was the key cog in the middle. He made Bruce Miller (UCF DE) look like Bruce Smith at times.
Lurker Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Nolan who? What team does he work for? Oh, just some guy who watches thousands more hours of tape and has more college contacts than anyone on TSW...
Dylanme8 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Oh, just some guy who watches thousands more hours of tape and has more college contacts than anyone on TSW... umm...... we need a nose tackle and they felt like he was the best one left..... lets see how he pans out
Kingfish Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 I know right?... He may not even be a RT let alone a LT.
Kingfish Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Oh, just some guy who watches thousands more hours of tape and has more college contacts than anyone on TSW... http://pfwweb.goisg.net/PFW/NFLDraft/Scout.../rock022507.htm The way we see it: Did not live up to expectations as a senior and underachieved on an underachieving defense. A love-or-hate type of talent whom some scouts see as strictly a pass-rush specialist. Evaluators who go back and watch Moses early in his career will be able to see beyond his average senior production. Similar to former Troy DE DeMarcus Ware, Florida State DE Kamerion Wimbley and North Carolina State DE Manny Lawson, all of whom fit into the first round but elicited widely divergent grades from scouts. Moses fits the bill as a rush linebacker or finesse speed rusher and is too smart, too athletic and has been too productive in a big-time conference over the span of his career not to develop into a solid pass rusher in the pros. Today Quentin Moses is already with his 3rd team and has 1.5 career sacks. These "expert" opinions/rankings need to be taken with a grain of salt.
iinii Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Funny I thought we were running a 3-4 this year? That requires a NT that doesn't move. He isn't a pass rusher, he takes up space so LB's can attack. Troup is the best in this draft, yes even over the over hyped cody, at doing just that. So this front office so far has taken the most explosive player in the draft and the NT for our needs in the draft. Must be a bust then.....
DUTE Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 So boxOlife thinks that the Bills failed on there 2nd round pick again? Well this immediately makes him an f'n retard for the bills 2nd rounders last year (Byrd and Levitre) are considered failed picks according to him. Is a probowler and a solid starting guard not good enough for you? Now your opinion on Troup is irrelevant because obviously you are mentally challenged
postplayer35 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Every year the Bills reach on players they could have had later in the draft. If they are going to reach, why don't they trade down for more picks. Troup could have been had in the third round and we could have gained another pick by trading down. The Bills rarely get good value out of their picks. Just watch, in the third round they will reach for a prospect they could have had in the fourth or fifth round. My honest opinion is if we don't trade Whitner or Lynch for an extra early round pick with good value that fills a legitimate need, this draft is a bust and will receive a poor grade. I mean even Detroit and Oakland are doing well in this years draft. This could be the defining draft that shows that the Bills front office really has no clue. The Bills really are the laughing stock of the league. Outside of Jacksonville's first round pick, the Troup pick is the biggest reach so far in the draft based on what was still available. you read to many draft magazines. give these players a chance
Lurker Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 http://pfwweb.goisg.net/PFW/NFLDraft/Scout.../rock022507.htm No one gets a 100% on this, amateur or pro alike. But a guy like Nawrocki who spends countless hours studying tape and talking to coaches is way more qualified to render an opinion than some jamoke on TSW who reads ESPN's website for an hour and thinks he's Bill Polian. FWIW, here's what he says about Troup: "The most pivotal piece of a 3-4 defense is the nose tackle, and with the Bills making the conversion to an odd front, they needed a bigger, more stout centerpiece than Kyle Williams. Troup has the sheer mass, power and press strength to hold the point and occupy space and should immediately be able to factor into the Bills' defense on first and second downs."
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