Deep2Moulds46 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Jamon Bushrod ( who?) Willie Colon ( solid) David Deihl ( converted guard, decent tackle) Charles Johnson Max Starks Matt Light Matt Light Nobody on this list is an elite left tackle. They're all solid contributors. The last ELITE left tackle to win the Super Bowl is Jonathan Ogden in 2000, with Orlando Pace winning in 1999. Why again are we so concerned about Blue chipping that position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Jamon Bushrod ( who?)Willie Colon ( solid) David Deihl ( converted guard, decent tackle) Charles Johnson Max Starks Matt Light Matt Light Nobody on this list is an elite left tackle. They're all solid contributors. The last ELITE left tackle to win the Super Bowl is Jonathan Ogden in 2000, with Orlando Pace winning in 1999. Why again are we so concerned about Blue chipping that position? taking it the other way.....of the four best OT's last year...NONE MADE THE PLAYOFFS. 2009 NFL All-Pro First Team T - Ryan Clady, Broncos T - Joe Thomas, Browns 2009 NFL All-Pro Second Team T - Michael Roos, Titans T - Jake Long, Dolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 bc people on this board are friggin idiots and think a starting LT is more important than QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep2Moulds46 Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 Look, obviously you don't want Kirk Chambers as your starting left tackle. But, just like anything else...you don't want Ryan Denney as your starting DE and you don't want Keith Ellison as your starting OLB. A bad player at any position will create a liability for a team. But this idea that somehow not having an ELITE left tackle is going to just cripple an offense is insane. There's only one position on the field that single handedly can bring up or down the play of everybody else around them and it's QB. The Bills need an upgrade at tackle, for sure. But, spending the 9th pick in the draft on a guy like Bulaga just seems like drafting a tackle just to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 bc people on this board are friggin idiots and think a starting LT is more important than QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 From the Department of Redundancy Department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 bc people on this board are friggin idiots and think a starting LT is more important than QB. Last decade SB QBs Warner: UDFA (3 appearances) Brady: 6th Round (4 appearances) McNair: 1st Dilfer: 1st Collins: 1st Brad Johnson: 9th (!) Gannon: 4th McNabb: 1st Rothelsberger: 1st (twice) Hasselback: 6th E Manning: 1st P Manning: 1st (twice) Grossman: 1st Brees: 2nd Just glancing at the 90s decade, it's got more #1s with Elway, Kelly, Aikman, Montana, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 bc people on this board are friggin idiots and think a starting LT is more important than QB. Or maybe these idiots just think that the quality of the tackles available in the top 10, relative to what we have, is far superior to the quality of QBs likely available at #9, relative to what we have. But forgive me, you're correct. Anyone who disagrees with your personal opinion is an idiot. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 bc people on this board are friggin idiots and think a starting LT is more important than QB. + One Billion!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Last decade SB QBs Warner: UDFA (3 appearances) Brady: 6th Round (4 appearances) McNair: 1st Dilfer: 1st Collins: 1st Brad Johnson: 9th (!) Gannon: 4th McNabb: 1st Rothelsberger: 1st (twice) Hasselback: 6th E Manning: 1st P Manning: 1st (twice) Grossman: 1st Brees: 2nd Just glancing at the 90s decade, it's got more #1s with Elway, Kelly, Aikman, Montana, etc. Does Grossman's Super Bowl appearance even count? Talk about the poor man's Trent Dilfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Jamon Bushrod ( who?)Willie Colon ( solid) David Deihl ( converted guard, decent tackle) Charles Johnson Max Starks Matt Light Matt Light Nobody on this list is an elite left tackle. They're all solid contributors. The last ELITE left tackle to win the Super Bowl is Jonathan Ogden in 2000, with Orlando Pace winning in 1999. Why again are we so concerned about Blue chipping that position? Tackles don't win Super Bowls. Teams do. These guys are the left tackles on Super Bowl winning teams. We're concerned about "blue chipping" that position because it protects the QB. If last year taught us anything, it should have taught us that. And the guy we get at #9 isn't likely to be elite (at just about any position, except by a bit of luck. The obviously elite guys go higher). You get elite LTs in the top 4 or 5, and maybe some years 6. Our guy at #9, assuming we go LT, is likely to be well above-average, which was probably the case for three of those players on your list (Light, Starks and Colon). Also, Willie Colon is a lot more than solid. He's an excellent player. Check profootballfocus.com for confirmation. http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...&numgames=1 Starks is also pretty good. He was underestimated, IMHO because the whole line was not very good (except for Colon) and people lumped him in with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Does Grossman's Super Bowl appearance even count? Talk about the poor man's Trent Dilfer. Grossman and Dilfer couldn't be more different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Grossman and Dilfer couldn't be more different. I was comparing their situations more than their playing styles or abilities. I called Rex the poor man's Dilfer because both players pretty much backed into the Super Bowl and rode the coattails of good defensive squads. Dilfer at least made smart if limited decisions, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 When will people learn football is a symbiotic game it requires all positions complementing each other in order for a team to work. The reason LT's are drafted so high is 2 fold. 1- They are hard to find. Finding a human being that fits the mold of an elite NFL LT. Big Wingspan, Quickness, strength, size, and strong lower body aren't qualities that many people on this planet have. 2- They are a key aspect to an O-line. Is LT more important then QB no of course not but a great LT is the most important part to insuring that your QB is protected and is a position that you can build your O-line around. The reason a lot here don't want a QB at pick 9 is because the top 2 most likely won't be there thus we should get the LT to protect what we have and grab the QB next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 soooo,,,,we're going to the superbowl this year with Clausen or Tebow? Come off it. We aren't going anywhere on offense until we fix our p-poor offensive line and we need a couple of tackles and maybe a center to get started on improving the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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