billsfreak Posted April 20, 2010 Author Posted April 20, 2010 Irrelevant. That's all forgiven the second he signs with the Jets. That's right, money talks. Plus with all these signings, the Jets have to be one of the few favorites from the AFC to get to the Superbowl and I am sure he wants to win one before his near retirement and move to Hollywood.
Arkady Renko Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Yeah! Its not like we've played against Jason Taylor for the last decade or anything. However will we get used to him?
dpberr Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Two old players past their primes. I'll pass. Wouldn't be shocked to see Holt get released before the season. I'm convinced that PFT has created a hysteria by way of their webpage layout. It's in big black bold letters, so it must be important.
billsfreak Posted April 20, 2010 Author Posted April 20, 2010 Seems like the Jets better win the Super Bowl this year or the whole thing could implode...as we've seen so often in all sports from NYC area teams. This could go very badly for them...expectations are sky high. As another poster pointed out yesterday, the Bills development curve could mean that our three division rivals are rebuilding in two years (Patriots and Jets in particular have older rosters) just as the Bills are putting the finishing touches on their rebuilding project. Like Buddy Nix, I really couldn't care less what the neighbors are doing to their house. I'm only concerned about the house that the Bills are building. I know we compete against those teams, but having short-term, knee-jerk reactions to their roster moves only makes our organization weaker. The Bills have to stick with their plan. If it's a good one and it's executed well, we'll be fine. No such thing in the NFL as rebuilding a team anymore. It is a "Win Now" league, because the rookies you got last year (Byrd, Wood, etc.) will be leaving as free agents by the time the rookies from this year and next develop. If you don't work to "Win Now" you never win in today's NFL. Period.
billsfreak Posted April 20, 2010 Author Posted April 20, 2010 It doesnt matter how many times you say this, they still won't get it. We get it, it is just plain old B.S. Besides, isn't the 11th year in a row people have said that?
LynchMob23 Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 No such thing in the NFL as rebuilding a team anymore. It is a "Win Now" league, because the rookies you got last year (Byrd, Wood, etc.) will be leaving as free agents by the time the rookies from this year and next develop. If you don't work to "Win Now" you never win in today's NFL. Period. Is there going to be a point at which the horse you're beating can be buried, or will you be slapping its carcass around in 2020 as well?
billsfreak Posted April 20, 2010 Author Posted April 20, 2010 Is there going to be a point at which the horse you're beating can be buried, or will you be slapping its carcass around in 2020 as well? It is a fact, and if you can't see that, your blind or stupid. You must be another one of those Bill's fans who are more than satisfied with the past decade at OBD. Not me, and too many other Bills fans that live in the real world and spend real money supporting this mess.
first_and_ten Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Jason Taylor has signed for two years with the New York Jets. Another good signing for the division rival Jets. Coupled with the Pats signing Torry Holt today, the Bills just keep falling farther and farther out of any dream for competing in the division. Seems like every other day, someone from the AFC East, besides Buffalo makes a good signing improving themselves. Gonna be a long year for the Buffalo faithful. It's going to be a long 2 to 3 years. And if the rebuilding through the draft doesn't pan out, it's going to be another long decade.
EastRochBillsfan Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Jason Taylor has signed for two years with the New York Jets. Another good signing for the division rival Jets. Coupled with the Pats signing Torry Holt today, the Bills just keep falling farther and farther out of any dream for competing in the division. Seems like every other day, someone from the AFC East, besides Buffalo makes a good signing improving themselves. Gonna be a long year for the Buffalo faithful. Whoa is me. our poor bills are gonna suck.its gonna be a looooong year. everyone is getting better than us. we are not doing anything. our front office sucks .our head coach sucks. our scouts suck. our gm sucks.our owner sucks and is cheap and makes the wrong picks in the draft. the team is going to move. we play games in toronto. it snows and is cold in western ny. waawaaawaaa. you know what, the team we put on the field is going to be far more competitive than the team last year and far more fun to watch. so I, for one, am looking forward to this season. I don't buy your guys doom and gloom and will have no part of it. this team will bring their lunch pails on sunday and go to work. and at the end of the day, that will count for something.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Anyone care to address how the Joey Galloway signing worked out for the Patsies last year? The Patsies keep adding aging players and their drafts continue to get worse. The only cause for pessimism as a Bills fan is that the Patriots "have our number." Other than that, I see a "dynasty" falling into severe disrepair. The difference between winning and losing is such a fine line...they haven't done richard since they stopped cheating.
billsfreak Posted April 20, 2010 Author Posted April 20, 2010 Whoa is me. our poor bills are gonna suck.its gonna be a looooong year. everyone is getting better than us. we are not doing anything. our front office sucks .our head coach sucks. our scouts suck. our gm sucks.our owner sucks and is cheap and makes the wrong picks in the draft. the team is going to move. we play games in toronto. it snows and is cold in western ny. waawaaawaaa. you know what, the team we put on the field is going to be far more competitive than the team last year and far more fun to watch. so I, for one, am looking forward to this season. I don't buy your guys doom and gloom and will have no part of it. this team will bring their lunch pails on sunday and go to work. and at the end of the day, that will count for something. OK I'll play, what do you base that feeling on when it is basically the same team, minus T.O. Josh Reed, etc, and added a couple role players? I like your optmism (not your sarcasm though-the first paragraph of your post is kinda childish), but not sure what it is based on.
thebandit27 Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 It is a fact, and if you can't see that, your blind or stupid. You must be another one of those Bill's fans who are more than satisfied with the past decade at OBD. Not me, and too many other Bills fans that live in the real world and spend real money supporting this mess. I fail to see how Buffalo--a team that is nowhere near a playoff contender in 2010--standing idle, while the Jets--a team that came within one game of reaching the Superbowl--sign such a player constitutes "falling further behind the pack". I, along with plenty of others (apparently), don't believe that signing a mid-30's pass rusher who's best seasons are several years removed will be the key to putting the Bills over the hump. Can you honestly say you believe that? If you ask me, the blind and the stupid are those folks that don't understand that a perennial contender isn't built through free agent signings and trading for veteran has-beens. Ask yourself honestly, who are the perennial contenders in this league? The Colts, Steelers, Patriots, Titans, Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Packers, Saints; what do they all have in common? They draft well. Look at their big-name QBs, OTs, DEs, RBs, LBs, all draft picks. The only notable exceptions: Philadelphia's Jason Peters (acquired in a trade) and New Orleans' Drew Brees (hit free agency after SD drafted Philip Rivers and Brees had a major shoulder injury). I guess you can also throw Tony Romo in there, since he was an UDFA, but I'm still giving them the credit for identifying the young talent. Now do me a favor and name one team that's gotten good and stayed good employing the strategy that the Jets are using this off-season...go ahead...I'm waiting... Well, until then, perhaps you should re-evaluate your stance on this matter.
bills in va Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Everyone needs to relax...2010 isnt, nor was it ever inteded to be, a return to glory. Its a year for a new staff to come in and put their stamp on this team and build a foundation with the young players we have and the ones we are about to draft. Its the year to start the development of guys like Nelson, Maybin, Brohm, Hardy, Johnson, our rookies from this draft, etc... I am not concerned about Taylor who will be done in a year or two, just about the same time our guys will be hitting their stride in development. Let these other guys sign these aging Vets like Taylor, Holt, LT, etc for a run at the SB the next 2 seasons while we build our foundation to be a leader of this division over the next 10 years. A 10 year domination in the division. That would be too good to be true. But we both know what will happen....As soon as we start to be competitive Ralph will die and the team will move. That is the luck of a Bills fan.
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 It is a fact, and if you can't see that, your blind or stupid. You must be another one of those Bill's fans who are more than satisfied with the past decade at OBD. Not me, and too many other Bills fans that live in the real world and spend real money supporting this mess. You're the naive one. Just because its been a bad decade for the Buffalo Bills and its fans, doesn't mean its been a bad decade for a NEW regime. We have a new coach and a new GM, its starting over brand new for them. So guess what, you're the fool that thinks the past and present are linked. How do you know this new regime won't be able to build a winner, their way? You don't, no one does. We have no choice but to get behind the team (yes, even considering the past) as if all things are new. So you really need to either adapt or stop being a "so called" fan. I usually don't spout off like this, but guys like you drive me nuts. What the other AFC east teams are doing to load their teams for a year or two run, really has nothing to do with us at this point.
bills in va Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 I fail to see how Buffalo--a team that is nowhere near a playoff contender in 2010--standing idle, while the Jets--a team that came within one game of reaching the Superbowl--sign such a player constitutes "falling further behind the pack". I, along with plenty of others (apparently), don't believe that signing a mid-30's pass rusher who's best seasons are several years removed will be the key to putting the Bills over the hump. Can you honestly say you believe that? If you ask me, the blind and the stupid are those folks that don't understand that a perennial contender isn't built through free agent signings and trading for veteran has-beens. Ask yourself honestly, who are the perennial contenders in this league? The Colts, Steelers, Patriots, Titans, Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Packers, Saints; what do they all have in common? They draft well. Look at their big-name QBs, OTs, DEs, RBs, LBs, all draft picks. The only notable exceptions: Philadelphia's Jason Peters (acquired in a trade) and New Orleans' Drew Brees (hit free agency after SD drafted Philip Rivers and Brees had a major shoulder injury). I guess you can also throw Tony Romo in there, since he was an UDFA, but I'm still giving them the credit for identifying the young talent. Now do me a favor and name one team that's gotten good and stayed good employing the strategy that the Jets are using this off-season...go ahead...I'm waiting... Well, until then, perhaps you should re-evaluate your stance on this matter. THE YANKEES!
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 I fail to see how Buffalo--a team that is nowhere near a playoff contender in 2010--standing idle, while the Jets--a team that came within one game of reaching the Superbowl--sign such a player constitutes "falling further behind the pack". I, along with plenty of others (apparently), don't believe that signing a mid-30's pass rusher who's best seasons are several years removed will be the key to putting the Bills over the hump. Can you honestly say you believe that? If you ask me, the blind and the stupid are those folks that don't understand that a perennial contender isn't built through free agent signings and trading for veteran has-beens. Ask yourself honestly, who are the perennial contenders in this league? The Colts, Steelers, Patriots, Titans, Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Packers, Saints; what do they all have in common? They draft well. Look at their big-name QBs, OTs, DEs, RBs, LBs, all draft picks. The only notable exceptions: Philadelphia's Jason Peters (acquired in a trade) and New Orleans' Drew Brees (hit free agency after SD drafted Philip Rivers and Brees had a major shoulder injury). I guess you can also throw Tony Romo in there, since he was an UDFA, but I'm still giving them the credit for identifying the young talent. Now do me a favor and name one team that's gotten good and stayed good employing the strategy that the Jets are using this off-season...go ahead...I'm waiting... Well, until then, perhaps you should re-evaluate your stance on this matter. Agreed. The Jests have apparently opted for the Daniel Snyder method of team improvement at this point. And it DOES makes sense for a team in their position...but not so much for the Bills and Redskins.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 A 10 year domination in the division. That would be too good to be true. But we both know what will happen....As soon as we start to be competitive Ralph will die and the team will move. That is the luck of a Bills fan. This is many of our's greatest fear. But unfortunately (or fortunately) it cannot change the way you build a team. Desperation as a method of management? It'll fail every time.
gobillsinytown Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 It is a fact, and if you can't see that, your blind or stupid. You must be another one of those Bill's fans who are more than satisfied with the past decade at OBD. Not me, and too many other Bills fans that live in the real world and spend real money supporting this mess. There is a very simple solution to your problem.
thebandit27 Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 THE YANKEES! touche' How about a football team? Agreed. The Jests have apparently opted for the Daniel Snyder method of team improvement at this point. And it DOES makes sense for a team in their position...but not so much for the Bills and Redskins. Indeed...when you're one game from reaching the Superbowl, $3.6M for a pass rusher that may be able to help salvage the career of Vernon Gholston and possibly give you some quality 3rd down play is a less audacious investment than it would be for a 6-10 team with no QB, no OL, one WR, a new GM, and a slew of new coaches.
Doc Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 The Bills fall further behind...the Jets, as do the Dols and Pats. The Dols fall behind because with the loss of Porter AND Taylor, they lose 16 sacks from last season, and Dansby, who isn't a great 3-4 LB'er, doesn't get may sacks (has averaged just over 4 a year in his career).
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